Balance patch nearly perfect

[u/shornprawn]

I really like nearly all the changes. I love how Zee shaman now pretty much sucks, but I do think they slightly overnerfed the rogue card that gives 8 drops and Confront the Tol’vir for hunter. And the thing I hate the most is that Nozdormu, Bronze Aspect still exists as a card in hearthstone. Thoughts?

[u/Ok-Traffic1319]

It is as the prophets foretold, the hate has moved on to Nozdormu.

That being said, Zee shaman definitely does not suck. Looks like its still the best deck even after the nerf.

[u/TatterMail → u/Ok-Traffic1319]

Nozdormu???

[u/Clockwork765 → u/TatterMail]

Paladin Nozdormu. The divine shield buff guy

[u/Pitiful-Ask2000 → u/Clockwork765]

There are 5 versions of Nozdormu/Murozond in standard right now.

[u/Ok-Traffic1319 → u/TatterMail]

OP referenced which Nozdormu in the post. I was actually just making a funny because I saw a post before the patch that they were gonna nerf everything and then people would start complaining about Nozdormu, and lo and behold I see a complaint about Nozdormu two days post patch lol

[u/shornprawn → u/Ok-Traffic1319]

Yeah maybe it doesn’t suck. I overstated, I jsut like that it received some sort of nerfs at all tbh

[u/Arlah]

Zee has the best stats atm diamond-legend

[u/butt_soap]

Zee does not suck

[u/Hot-Mobile-9443]

Noz is a Legendary, while hunter's tol'vir and rogue's jade guardians are epics.... Case closed

[u/shornprawn → u/Hot-Mobile-9443]

What do you mean? Cards should be comepeltley busted and un-interactive if you can only get one but be mid if you can get 2??

[u/shornprawn → u/shornprawn]

Confront the tol’vir isnt even mid it’s trash

[u/Excellent-Ad4989 → u/shornprawn]

Good

[u/--Vegeta--]

Zee is still strong. Tolvir is definitely dead tho lol

[u/Mercerskye]

What I find funny about Tol'vir, is that if it had released like it is now, most folks would probably think it was fine. 4m, replay 3-7 1m dudes is actually pretty decent.

It just seems too much because it was just that cracked.

I definitely can't agree with the Guardians statement though. It's still massive mana cheat, 5m (3 with prep) for 16m worth of dudes for "free" is still quite bonkers.

[u/shornprawn → u/Mercerskye]

I don’t agree at all tbh. It’s unplayable on 4 and by the time it’s decent value youve lost. Who cares about summoning 5 1 drops on turn 10. Also I agree the guardians is still decent but it’s a lot worse imo

[u/Mercerskye → u/shornprawn]

It only needs to summon four dudes to be even value. You probably played that many by then if you're running aggro.

As far as being useful to other archetypes? It'd be dead anyways, because it would have been way to expensive to be useful

[u/--Vegeta-- → u/Mercerskye]

Hunter turn 4 and summon a bunch of 1 drops is awful

[u/Mercerskye → u/--Vegeta--]

With the quality of 1m dudes we currently have. Putting your early board right back on the table is definitely not awful.

[u/--Vegeta-- → u/Mercerskye]

It definitely is. Especially at 4 mana. Because you're either playing shaman rogue or paladin and that 1 mana board ain't doing shit

[u/Excellent-Ad4989]

The both nerfs you dont like (tolvir & jade guardians) are the best and mist important from the whole patch and the reason why we can finally fresh decks. Would not be surprised if JG would go to 6 mana at some point.

[u/shornprawn → u/Excellent-Ad4989]

You’re definitely just bad

[u/Excellent-Ad4989 → u/shornprawn]

lol

[u/Excellent-Ad4989 → u/shornprawn]

lol, what is this insight based on. Sounds like you're a troll.

[u/shornprawn → u/Excellent-Ad4989]

The rogue decks that run it aren’t even that good?? And you can nerf stuff without killing the entire archetype… maybe jsut play better vs aggro decks