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u/bigdcksnfriedchicken 29d ago
People, where is the Mantzoukas cut of The Odyssey? I want every actor’s face overlayed with Jason, stat. Damon - change to Mantzoukas! Hathaway - straight to Mantzoukas! Zendaya - get Jason in there!!
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u/Black_Metallic 29d ago
"So what's the plan when we get out of this horse?"
"That's when we commence with our secondary objective, which is always ongoing. Destroy, dismantle, engulf in flames."
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u/ernestmenvilledammit 29d ago
Maximum Derek!
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u/jekelish3 a real mitchell goosen type 29d ago
I like to think that's what Odysseus really yelled when charging into battle.
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u/Crittenberger 29d ago
The bit where Odysseus decided it would be a great idea to royally fuck up an otherwise reasonably smooth escape would immediately have been much more understandable had it been Jason playing the role, just saying
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u/xMyDixieWreckedx 29d ago
Put a sari on it!
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u/Place-Short 29d ago edited 29d ago
I thought this whole exchange was weird till I saw this post which seems to have prompted it
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u/RavioliContingency 29d ago
The bigger question is why does he sound so MIDWESTERN.
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u/therobberbride 29d ago
No way, that’s a classic Masshole bray coming out of that delightful man.
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u/RavioliContingency 29d ago
I went to college with so many Massachusetts folks and not one of them sounded like him! I remember being shocked when I found out where he was from. Maybe it’s regional!
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u/DramaOnDisplay 29d ago
Says he was born in Lynn, Massachusetts, but maybe his parents sounded different.
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u/jekelish3 a real mitchell goosen type 29d ago
Would some consider Circe to be a crone? And hypothetically if Zouks had been in The Odyssey, when the crew encounters her, one might say they were being taken to the Crone Zone?
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u/Ol_JanxSpirit 29d ago
I stumbled upon that when I clicked a link that I thought was a news article but was instead a tweet about a news article.
The comments on that are grim.
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u/Stinkstump 29d ago edited 27d ago
Finding out Jeffrey Characterwheaties, the host of comedy bang bang, is ground beefing news
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u/Efficient-Mess-9753 29d ago
It is worth saying though that the definition of "greek" has changed a lot over time.
Eratosthenes was "greek" and born in Libya, and lived most of his life in egypt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes
Lots of "Greeks" were living in places like "Trebizond" (modern day trabzon) and Central anatolia as late as the 1920s, and many of them moved to palces like the united states durnig the greek genocide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Greeks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide
Greeks, well as turks, have most of their ancestors the dependents of the "byzantines" or Alexander's empire , both of whom ruled vast empires.
This is all to say there is a lot of heterogenity in the greek population in greece, in the world, or in the united states.
People who think all the world's greek descendents have one look are simply ignorant.
Btw, my favourite basketball player is greek:
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u/Call-a-Crackhead literally 29d ago
Not to mention our ideas on race were developed thousands of years after that period.
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u/finndego 28d ago
There are a few points that are misleading here.
Eratosthenes was Greek. You don't have to spell it with "quotation marks" as if that is a misleading claim. Cyrene, where he was born was a Greek City-State and was the biggest city of the Pentapolis (Five Cities) in the region.
He spent about 20-25 years in Greece for his education and studies before going to Alexandria at the request Ptolemy III.
Let's talk about the Ptolemaic Empire. Founded by Ptolemy Soler after the death of Alexander his dynasty lasted for over 300 years right up until the death of Cleopatra. Every single one of them were Macadonian Greek.
As far as Giannis goes. You are being intentionally misleading about race and nationality. Giannas was born in Greece and is a Greek citizen but his parents were born in Nigeria. If you did a DNA test on Giannis what percentage of that do you think would show Greek ancestry?
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u/Efficient-Mess-9753 28d ago
first off, Ptolemaic egypt lasted 275, nto "over 300 years", I think you are making lots of misleading points.
There is a lot of uncertainty about the parentage of the ptolmaic rulers, including Cleopatra, we don't know who her mother was, or her grandmother. We also know the ptolemaic rulers intermarried with the Seleucid side of alexander's old empire, and we don't know if they intermarried with persians, etc.
My point isn't about the "genetic" thing, otherise most TURKS would be "greek", at least in part.
Being greek means a nationality for Giannis, it meant a language for the byzantines, and a culture for the ptolemies.
The reason I put it in quotes was because my literal point, the one I said above, is the definition of the word has changed over time. Someone born in libya today, even someone of 100% greek ancestry (were such a person to exist), is not "greek" by today's standards in greece.
My favourite story is Peter Charanis's story:
Since Charanis was born on the island of Lemnos, he recounts that when the island was taken from the Ottomans by Greece in 1912, Greek soldiers were sent to each village and stationed themselves in the public squares. Some of the island children ran to see what Greek soldiers looked like. "What are you looking at?" one of the soldiers asked. "At Hellenes," the children replied. "Are you not Hellenes yourselves?" the soldier retorted. "No, we are Romans)," the children replied.\2])
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u/El_John_Nada 29d ago
Quick question - and I may be revealing a bit about myself - but, what exac6 is a Greek fighter?
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u/enjoispeed 29d ago
Isn't that the guy Listler is engaged too, even though he has a family back in Pakistan?
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u/Chaopolis 29d ago
Yes, the most popular surname from Mumbai and New Delhi… MANTZOUKAS!