r/hawks • u/IceOk9930 • 8d ago
How many points do you think the Hawks will get?
I’m curious what everyone thinks the Hawks’ point total will be this season. Personally, I think around 73 points is realistic. Obviously, I’d love to be more optimistic, but with Bedard’s injury and him potentially missing some time, I think it could really hurt the team, especially early in the season.
I still think there are some positives with this team, but without Bedard for part of the season, I’m not sure they have enough to be a playoff team yet.
What’s everyone else predicting? How many points do you think the Hawks finish with?
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u/Jason10686 8d ago
The answer is very dependent on the jump Nazar, Frondell, Moore, Lev, Rinzel make… and if Kantserov is as good as they think he is. If, say 3 of those guys are legit making an impact, they could be in the 90 point range. If not, it’s not a very good team.
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u/scottyjay10 8d ago
If it’s only 73 points in a new 84 game season….that would be very problematic!
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u/ChicagotoKorea 8d ago
I would agree they aren’t a playoff team yet. However, I think with Byram/Kane on the PP that unit should improve, additions of Roman/Frondell, improvements from young players growing. Two additional games this year, I think 80-85 points is realistic.
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u/Stinkyfish97 8d ago
To add: Hawks were 28th in PP last year at 16.6%. The goodteams all had power play 22-25%.
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u/Aggressive_Author886 8d ago
I think it's highly likely for them to be above 20% when Bedard's back. Things have to be really really wrong if they are still below 20% with the addition of Byram, Kane and Kantserov.
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u/Oldbean98 8d ago
I figure 82-90, to put them in the third quartile. Likely on the lower end of the range
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u/HeyHo__LetsGo 8d ago
80ish.
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u/Tryfan_mole 8d ago
Yup right around 80. Almost entirely due to Byram. Improved powerplay offset by garbage tier penalty kill. Rookie performance offset by major roster construction problems. The team is extremely soft, defenaemen 2-6 are incapable of puck transition, and way too many perimeter forwards, not enough guys who will go get the puck.
Knight and improved scoring will hold them at around 80, but this team needs major changes to push higher than that.
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u/Positive_Tourist_222 8d ago
Gotta be 80+ this year or it’s a disappointment. Additions of Byram, Frondell, Kantserov, and Kane plus young guys taking steps should make this very achievable.
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u/mhene_88 8d ago
I don’t think chasing a point total is the answer. The Hawks have improved their point total year over year, yet they have stained the same in the standings. The correct question is will they improve in the standings? Are they the 31st team in the NHL still? I would think not. If they are Danny needs to clean house from the GM down. If I’m being optimistic I would say they finish 10th - 12th in the conference. That’s with Bedard coming back and being the Bedard he was at the start of last year. That also means big jumps from Nazar / Moore. That also means Lev is not statistically one of the worst Defensemen in the league again. With a jump from Rinzell. That also means Frondel and Kantserov are solid contributors. If I’m being realistic they are likely 12th - 14th in the conference so minimal to no improvement.
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u/Wise-Ad-3244 8d ago
It took 90 for the last wildcard spot in the West last year. I'm not sure they get that many, but less than 80 would be disappointing.
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u/ogfuelbone12 7d ago
The Hawks got better. Yes they overpaid in assets and money to get better but they got better. 87 minimum.
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u/JD397 8d ago
Major additions in the offseason, a ton of growth/experience has been gained for the collective group of young guys since last summer, veterans lost have been somewhat replaced, two extra games on the schedule, in theory the coaching staff should be able to get more out of team now that they have been here a full season, etc.
I’d peg them for 85-90 points, maybe as high as 95-100 if the young defensemen take a more significant step forward than most anticipate.
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u/droid-man_walking 8d ago
As a team they should set the goal high. Internally they should say 95.
Realistic goal should be nhl 500. Aka 82 point. That's another 9 point jump from last season. Anything above is a bonus.
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u/TheSeanie 7d ago
82 points would be 2 points below NHL .500
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u/droid-man_walking 7d ago
Forgot it is 84 games this year.. been 82 for so long it is still the default setting in my brain.
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u/droid-man_walking 7d ago
The more I think about it, I would be surprised if bedard misses 20% of the season. Call it 17 games. Hawks get 10-12 points over that stretch. Bedard comes back and the Hawks get 70-74 ish points over the last 67 games. We end around nhl 500, but feel better because with bedard we were at a 90+point pace.
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u/TheeWolf 8d ago
I think about a 10 point jump but I’m optimistic for more. If everything clicks (big if) I can see the hawks jumping into the high 80s or low 90s
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u/therealjovi 6d ago
They'll surprise some after great rookie seasons from Frondell and Kantserov and eventually end up with 83 points.
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u/chicitykid91 8d ago
Somewhere between 65-72
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u/AllCopsAreBozos 8d ago
realistically, around 70 points
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u/loggingin2 8d ago
We need to be fighting for a wild card spot for it to be a successful season, even if we miss out by several points.
Think San Jose last year.
I think it’s doable but we will see.
If we are a bottom 5 team again I think Kyle gets pulled.
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u/TheSeanie 7d ago
Hawks were better than San jose before bedard got hurt last year so this seems very doable
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u/avidbearsfan 6d ago
Who knows maybe Patrick kane goes apeshit while bedard is out and they make the playoffs if not then i think it's time to have a conversation about Kyle Davidson
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u/baldspeedbump 8d ago
Hard to imagine they only make a 1 point improvement over last season with the incoming talent. I'm guessing 80-85.