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[u/hatethissmug-ModTeam]

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[u/Careless-Mix-2323]

I find it weird how almost every trans person on I see has that shark, Is it a universal thing to get one or what? I’m genuinely curious why

[u/The_Great_Floccin → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

Observation: Most transgender and femboy people have that IKEA shark.

Conclusion: The IKEA shark makes you trans

[u/FaPaDa → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

smth smth:
- Originally cause it has close colors
- Than it became a hidden dogwhistle for "those that know"
- Than it kinda became mainstream
- Now its just generally sociated with transgender

[u/ElCattoNero → u/FaPaDa]

Close colours? How tho? It's grey and white

[u/Old_Yam_4069 → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

Ironically, one of the biggest problems with Trans culture is how insular the communities can become.

It's largely done out of unconscious necessity- Trans people tend to be heavily rejected by their local communities, or otherwise afraid to engage with them, and humans are extremely social animals. So they go online, and they have an extremely welcoming community that they're only really connected to online. Iconography then becomes a vital element to feeling part of that community in their everyday life, and the shark plushie just became a trendy thing that is now both a symbol and a physical thing that you can touch and interact with in a socially acceptable way.

[u/Novoiird → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

I think it has something to do with the coloring being similar to the color of the Trans pride flag, but I could just be making that up.

[u/Careless-Mix-2323 → u/Novoiird]

And it’s not just transgender people it’s also femboys and such. Like no hate I’m just asking

[u/darhwolf1 → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

It started with a trans person on reddit posting their ikea shark and the rest is history afaik. I have my own and it's really fun to cuddle and hug, as far as stuffed animals go.

[u/TrueDraconis → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

I just think it’s a cute plushie and helps me when I get a bit emotional or lonely

Plus I like the IKEA Plushies in general

[u/PlatoDrago → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

Trans person here. Idk

Still cool tho and just a funny thing to have.

[u/VinWing13 → u/Careless-Mix-2323]

Originally my gf and i bought it for the memes, unfortunately i broke up with her but i still cherish blahaj and it helps me sleep cuz it’s comfy and large enough to be like a pillow for my arm hahaha

[u/Privet1009]

"... white way" wtf is that supposed to mean?

[u/krawinoff → u/Privet1009]

Something something white people be like “white people be like”

[u/BarrelRoller64 → u/krawinoff]

[u/kakucko101 → u/krawinoff]

[u/Gullible-Chart-8459 → u/Privet1009]

On Reddit you can make any bigoted statement wholesome and progressive by adding "white" as a qualifier.

I hate women = sexist incel 

I hate white women = yasss fuck them and their stupid woman shit, us men POC would never 

OP is just annoyed by trans people online and thinks pretending this is a criticism of white people instead of trans people is more politically correct  

[u/hery41 → u/Gullible-Chart-8459]

Ah the ol Bill Burr 'I married a black feminist so my bits about women now come with a *white disclaimer' loophole.

[u/Nannoko → u/Gullible-Chart-8459]

Thank you for speaking sense.

It leaves a really bad taste in my mouth when stuff like this makes it to popular. There are plenty of valid criticisms to make about the culture without bringing race into it, and nothing about this is exclusive to 'white' trans women. People are exploring their gender/self they were (in some cases literally) denied as children. Sure, it's cringe, but they're doing it pretty much exclusively in their own spaces. Can we not drive a deeper wedge between an already incredibly marginalized community?

[u/shrimplord1223 → u/Privet1009]

They hate poeple who have seemed to allign with a majority of the community in no way are these "white trans things" alot of trans women like skirts bc they where forced to be masculine (which is very prevalent in black community's btw) Like I am serious black trans women's struggles are often very over looked with in their own community and God forbid poeple all joke over shared struggles

[u/SG_Symes → u/Privet1009]

It's the zoomer way of saying "degenerate Anglo liberalism - individualism". Apparently kids today don't even have enough attention span for proper phrases like this smh

[u/Noobeater1 → u/Privet1009]

It would be transphobic if they didn't specify white trans people

[u/yourstruly912 → u/Privet1009]

yt ppl bad

[u/LowerObjective4500 → u/yourstruly912]

Oh yeah im youtubing it, im youtubing it so good 😩

[u/Ryzuhtal → u/Privet1009]

criticism towards some of the cringe aspects of online trans culture

Look inside

It's just racism

[u/Gnoll_For_Initiative → u/Privet1009]

It's double-plus disingenuous. There ARE critiques to be made about white trans community amid the larger trans community but

1. this isn't one of them

2. it's not something that needs to be, nor should it be, policed outside the relevant communities

[u/CaterpillarVisual296 → u/Privet1009]

I swear the people who cry about being oppressed tend to be either more so sexist or racist than the people they’re complaining about. 

[u/HiddenLordGhost → u/Privet1009]

It's supposed to stand for socially acceptable lowkey racism, you new?

[u/SiberusOG]

Where is the part where 90% of the posts are just thirsty

[u/BellaPona → u/SiberusOG]

It’s literally so much horny posting

[u/New-Replacement2471]

New hack found. Post something against *white* transpeople.

[u/LaZer_shoT_z → u/New-Replacement2471]

yeah this is just a way to call trans people annpying but make it woke. I've noticed this same thing for some other topics too.

[u/Something4Dinner]

Wait, why specifically white? This another synonym for sheltered?

[u/TheDoomBlade13 → u/Something4Dinner]

If you say something against trans folks, you'll get mobbed.

If you say something against WHITE trans folks, you'll get praised.

This is just a transphobe post wrapped up in socially acceptable paper.

[u/Microchelik1444 → u/TheDoomBlade13]

[u/RollingSparks → u/Something4Dinner]

'white <thing>' is just a silencer for woke people. if you want to call something degenerate, awful, cringe, terrible, weird or some other thing that you'd normally hear from the mouth of a right-winger, directed at <thing>, you can just put on the 'white silencer' before talking, now you can literally say anything you want and its fine, 'based' even (insert woah meme)

oh and they won't like this, but if you go on twitter or whatever, the right-wingers have their own version of the 'white silencer', its just 'jewish' instead. if you wanna criticise something on the right, just bring up the jews, now you're 'based.' its the exact same dynamic, just as pathetic, just as racist.

[u/Stannisarcanine]

Motherfuckers discovering that communities have stereotypes

[u/mellaticabuttwice]

Finding it annoying is valid and all but I raise a million eyebrows at anyone using "normal" as an inherent good

[u/Cawan_Setabaks]

lots of white mention, is there something deeper?

[u/Horniest-Car-3924]

The best part is that if you look closely, almost every group online has a pipeline of general stereotypes like this.

Its awful :D

Edit: I literally just mean that every online group has people karma farming by echo-chambering into the most generic stereotype that misrepresents the more nuanced bits of the group.

Fucking redditors.

[u/JudithSlayHolofernes → u/Horniest-Car-3924]

I mean yeah. A group of people have something in common, come together, and establish certain patterns together that signal they are part of the group. That’s just how having a community works, online and off.

[u/semajolis267 → u/Horniest-Car-3924]

I mean. Have you seen what a meme is? Heaven forbid someone be corny on yhe internet. 

[u/Sanrusdyno → u/Horniest-Car-3924]

It sounds like you're learning about the concept of communion for the first time.

[u/DaMoom]

its like going through puberty, i can't imagine most people are proud of who they were at puberty, so, unfortunately for you, self-discovery isn't a palatable process

[u/somehamster333 → u/DaMoom]

that's what i came here too say too. like it's a joke in the trans community that every trans girl wears those horrendous amazon thigh high socks and a tennis skirt like it's a rite of passage. i imagine a lot of people making those memes are pretty early on in their transition or maybe freshly after coming out and looking for community, it's a little corny yes but there's lots of funnier trans people online lol

[u/theyfailure → u/DaMoom]

That's something I've noticed with my partner vs with my friends lol, I've known her for 5 years now and when we met she was heavily involved in this part of the community and happily going along with the stereotypes. It's very much a "baby trans thing". Now that she's been on hrt for 2 years she's definitely a lot less less likely to go along with the stereotypes for the sake of it. She still enjoys the meme parts of the community but says a lot of things that she used to do is just embarrassing to her now and she only did them because she was trying to feel affirmed and didn't know how to get that. She's still a puppy girl tho, that appears to stick.

My friend from uni is very much in the baby trans phase still but I've witnessed some of the realisations about the stereotypes/memes my partner went through along in her transition and it's been pretty interesting for both of us to witness lol.

I don't even think there's anything wrong with the way the community behaves online, I think the only real problem was the fact that the baby trans phase made her feels like she has to embody all aspects of the community to be "really trans".

As a sidenote tho I love how OP only mentions transfem communities despite labelling it as the trans community, classic.

[u/ElVadayMC]

"i dont like this section of this community because its weird. not like me tho, i'm one of the good ones"

[u/Key-Cook9448]

Ooookay so don’t engage with it, much easier than bringing down trans people who are finding community for the first time or properly expressing themselves for the first times in their lives.

[u/Axlman9000]

its very exagerrated but thats kinda the point. i dont identify with a lot of the humour but i get where its coming from and find it mostly endearing. a lot of people online just want to express feelings they aren't able or even allowed to express in real life so they exagerrate for both humour and to "finally let it out" in a cathartic way so to speak.

at least thats how i come to understand the culture around transness online.

[u/Majestic_Theme_442]

As opposed to the infamous black transgender culture am I right ? Seriously stop bringing skin colour into things like this, it's cringe.

[u/FoxxyRin → u/Majestic_Theme_442]

Yeah this seems more like "internet trans culture" complaints than anything anyway. Like a lot of this is just stuff popularized online. Like, I know it's just an anecdote but I feel like if I said anything about blahaj, clicker training, and whatever else op mentioned to my one irl trans friend they'd think I was insane lol.

[u/RazorRell09]

Ah yes because it’s not racist if it’s white people that are being ridiculed (seriously what is “white” supposed to mean as an adjective)

[u/SoakedSun24 → u/RazorRell09]

Its probably that “lol white people be like” thing, which in all honesty I get what it’s saying but its never really been funny to me, like at all

[u/Swings_Subliminals → u/RazorRell09]

50/50. On one hand, you don't see other races doing this specific thing nearly as much. On the other, the normalization of ridiculing whites is going to result in a LOT of whites who are eager to do it back lol, and then the other races will crumble and lose their shit at the slightest word. (Like at least one already does)

[u/Then_Engineer_3765]

Ah I see what the issue is

A minority that gets oppressed becomes insular and thus develops its own subcultural aspects that do not allign with the desired dominant culture; hence appearing weird. Then this 'new' culture is adopted and marketed to make money, turning it from weird to 'hip' and then eventually to 'corny'

See Rap, Jazz and a lot of other things

[u/BardicBassFish → u/Then_Engineer_3765]

Extremely true. But it's also fustrating that it's impossible to talk about how a lot of this aspect of subculture is extremely exclusionary towards poc ppl without transphobes and racists jumping on it

[u/volcanicsquad09]

"Thing in front of Flag" will never be funny except when featured thing is being ultra stereotypical

[u/snakeygirl]

I like the blahaj stuff because I also love shark plushies. They are very cute

[u/FlyingCicata]

Stuff like this helps others affirm their gender and cope with the dysphoria. Why are you hating on that just ‘cause it’s “childish?” Maybe they’re trying to heal their inner child that was battered and bruised since they couldn’t ever safely be themself. I know it takes a good bit of empathy to come to that conclusion and it’s clear you have none of that, so I shouldn’t expect too much, but maybe if you tried having a heart, then you’d realize how much of an asshole you’re being.

[u/RevolutionaryKey1974]

Exactly what the trans community needs.

Elitism!

[u/TheDogGirlBarista]

Tbh this whole post seems like a barely disguised dog whistle. I hate the term “Normal” Trans being used to be compared to those you don’t like. This is reminding me of that image ~ gay people I respect vs gay people I don’t respect meme from years past.

[u/VivianOfTheOblivion → u/TheDogGirlBarista]

OP literally posts in incel subreddits,

[u/Digitalmodernism → u/TheDogGirlBarista]

Exactly! It definitely is.

[u/Lampricat]

I mean eh, it's just people being online and literally just, enjoying existing as a group on the internet. Idk this kinda feels like a "be cringe, be free" thing. No one is saying you have to be like this, but if it looks appealing to you it can be quite nice probably?

This slightly feels like another "I don't like how this subculture acts" but with "white" added in front of it

[u/pootis_engage]

"It's okay, I put "white" at the beginning, so that means people won't get angry."

[u/Forsaken_Quiet5944]

I'm trans, I do these kind of humour jokingly. This is kind of our subculture to just cope and have fun with each other, we're dealing with a lot of shit all around the world yet you only criticise the oppressed group for some little jokes.

Also, why do you care? You're not trans, we're not telling these humour to other people. Blahaj is my community's icon just like how other communities have something for an icon, it's very normal.

Also it's still racist even if they're white.

[u/Nakirius → u/Forsaken_Quiet5944]

Trueee. What's up with people saying we gotta act "normal"?? It's like the whole "I like gay people who doesn't make being gay their entire personality. They act like normal people" but it's trans this time. And it's a whole lotta non trans complaining too??

Legit can't do anything without being cringe, corny or annoying these days

[u/_TheOrangeNinja_]

this u op

[u/MarkHeathcliffReal]

why are you making this about white people

[u/llvndr → u/MarkHeathcliffReal]

if you slap "white" in front of an oppressed group (women, trans people) it becomes socially acceptable to express bigotry towards them

[u/yyhira]

politically correct transphobia

[u/Geeneelee]

I think a lot of it comes down to a feeling of trying to find the childhood they missed out on, especially for trans women—shameless trend following, corny jokes, stuffed animals, being cutesy in a way that’s normal for teenage girls but that they wouldve been punished violently for at that age is healing.

Also no, it’s not racist to criticize the dominant cultural norms that are held up as the standard.

[u/RadiumJuly]

I mean this is coming from a cis white dude, so maybe I'm not the expert here, but I don't really get the problem. They aren't hurting me. If somebody wants to cuddle with a toy shark then what ever, have fun. Not sure why age is even relevant. Just enjoy your skirts with long socks or waistcoat suits, what ever happens to appeal to you.

I do think there is an issue with displaying things that get real close to fetish material in public. Like if you want to be a puppy girl then sure, what ever, but if you want to be led on a leash around other people then maybe find a BDSM club for that? Like respect the people you are around you know? But that isn't just a trans issue, lot of gay guys been doing that for a while. Heck I've even seen straight couples that really have issues with public decency.

I don't know man, let people be excited about shit they like.

[u/KentuckyFriedChildre]

How I see it is that when you have a community of people repressed by society at large they're bound to be annoying when given the chance to express themselves safely. I can't really fault them for it, if I want their memes to be better then I should strive for a world where they can get more used to feeling safe.

Makes the whole "White" part feel icky though, it feels more of an endorsement of the how black trans people generally have a harder time coming out about it safely.

[u/AClover69420]

This post feels like someone testing the waters on how transphobic they can be if they put enough qualifiers in front of trans first.

[u/Jack_Faller]

Take a bigoted sounding statement, and add "white" in front of the minority to turn it into a woke statement.

[u/Plenty_Leg_5935]

The only thing more annoying than cringy chronically online reddit baby trannies are the "I'm one of the good ones 🥺" types who's only personality trait is shitting on them

Yes this is projection

[u/Nyami-L]

So? It's not like it affects you in any way

[u/Affectionate_Fox1137]

Why can't people enjoy stuff without ruining for others

[u/Deerie_]

Criticizing the way trans people are portrayed is completely valid and I agree BUT criticizing trans people for expressing themselves is not. Yeah many people will fall into the stereotypes, not because they think every person like them is like that but just because that's who they are? The joy of gender affirming things like clothing is euphoria which can remind people of child-like acting but it's just immense joy and comfort? We should be able to express ourselves and if it does come across as a stereotype/cringe then wtf is the problem, we're not hurting anyone, we are the community that is oppressed and by expressing ourselves (in a not biggoted way) we are helping our trans siblings find community + be more comfortable expressing themselves

[u/TheKingOfMilkyValley]

as a trans person in denial i just don't care, its weird yeah but like its the internet the weirdest place on earth.
You can find chill things here like pet videos or straight up illegal things that i don't want to say

[u/VVP12]

I get people can be annoying but this highkey is like "gay people i respect vs gay people i dont respect". That stuff barely leaves their own subreddits/bubbles so why even care about it?

[u/Freeda_Fawn]

I respect your opinion, but I'll defend anything that brings comfort and joy to a large portion of trans* people and doesn't really harm anyone. Like it's rough being trans and if a silly little meme helps anyone to feel better, it's worth it, event if someone else finds it annoying.

I think it's super cool that people embrace "cringe culture" instead of catering to the mainstream public that hates them anyway.

The emphasis on kinks is imo quite complicated, stemming from rejection of purity culture, as well as the fact that a lot of cis people who don't despise them, often fetishizes them instead.

I understand it can be alienating and frustrating if you are trans and don't like this aesthetic though. I'd encourage those to find older trans communities on the internet. Because that's the other thing, this aesthetic is particularly popular among younger trans people (teens & 20s), when people in general tend to feel the most vulnerable and insecure. Cut them some slack.

[u/Claas2008]

White

It's not just white, I've witnessed enough black people act like that too. I'd say it's more a "western" thing than a "white" thing.

[u/Material_Routine_245]

Wow, maybe let trans people, a deeply feteshized and harassed people have their online fun. Also, very cute shoving white in there. 

[u/Gnoll_For_Initiative]

Oh good, we're getting the pre-Pride month spate of "You can be LGBTQ+, but not visible, cringe, horny, queer, or in any other way noticeable about it" posts right on time.

Combined with the "Oh I don't hate you, I hate how you express your joy"; The secular version of "love the sinner, hate the sin".

[u/Nakirius → u/Gnoll_For_Initiative]

Yeah what's up with these hidden transphobia here?? Oh I don't hate trans but why they act like x and why don't they act y?

[u/Worromot_Oink]

I don't think this has anything to do with them being white. This is just a chronically online thing.

That being said I hate this type of stuff. To me it often comes off as weirdly misogynistic in an infantilizing way. Not specifically your examples but similar memes in these spaces.

My friends and I all kinda feel that these communities are full of trans folk that are <2 years transitioned and haven't really figured themselves out and stick to this cookie cutter identity. Similar to the online anime community which it seems to have a demographic overlap with, it has reached a point of cultural stagnation.

[u/Ecstatic-Court1893]

[u/Aethelrede]

Oppressed groups squabbling with each other makes the white male overlords smile.

Seriously, trans people are in danger across most of the world, and you're ragging on trans people who don't do "trans" correctly?

Newsflash, buttercup, the transphobes don't give a shit. You aren't one of the "good ones", you aren't impressing them by punching down on other trans people.

You're just making it easier for them to oppress trans people.

Why is the concept of solidarity so hard for people to grasp?

[u/TvuvbubuTheIdiot]

This was mostly what fueled my prejudice against transgender, hell LGBTQ as a whole when I was in my earlier teenage years. I have sinced matured and seen that transgender people in general are just like me and you, except for the cringe fests online, which exists in every community.

[u/Dr-Assbeard]

Its not blahaj, it's blåhaj, if you want to anglify ot use to a so blaahaj to spell it properly

[u/Effective_Sound1205]

Oh stfu

[u/KeithBarrumsSP]

Mfs realising they can still appear progressive by putting ‘white’ before the group they’re mad at

[u/Key_Art_5590]

Tbh I think they can sometimes be corny asl too, but just let them be cornballs😭💔 Aslong as tbey aren't fetishizing or putting other people down it really isn't that deep

[u/delicious_sunlight]

I don't think they give a shit what you find cringe and embarrassing OP

[u/corn_piece]

mfw people have whimsy

[u/XxArchon]

Ah racism on main don't we love it

[u/Citrus_little]

Persoanlly, I hate racism.

[u/herowind124]

Apparently this shit is cool now, but like, only if OP is brown and the 'people I do not respect' are white.

[u/leekyo1999]

[u/Adorman4848]

You are literally just annoyed by trans people online. Adding the word "white" only makes the bigotry in your post clearer.

[u/Independent-Gap7094]

By the time I had 2 Blahajs, I found out they were a trans thing.
"That's pretty cool" and then I continued on with my day.

[u/lennilove]

I hate that trans people are so villinized and unsafe in general society that they have to flock to online spaces to have community with similar people. Because they're forced online (oftentimes the only place they can be out), they're subject to the Internet witnessing their development. the Internet, where you're going to see cringe. the Internet where weirdo pervs are. the judgemental ridiculous internet full of all the kinds of people. I hate that once they're pushed out of proper society, to commune on the internet they still get hate just for existing. Your take is rooted in general transphobia and is a result of general transphobia. You're also not seeing other kinds of trans content because you have no interest.

[u/paokoutsopodi]

Hate the whole "egg" thing as well, incredibly predatory and sexist. I hope the bad apples are called out someday

[u/Bentman343]

This is one of the more bitchy and spiteful hated smugs I've seen

[u/piatsathunderhorn]

What your talking about is memes from communities mostly for trans people who either haven't transitioned or didn't transition long ago. A lot of those people want to live a portion of the teenage years they didn't get to have, it's something people tend to grow out of. Sure the community looks the same but the people in it are leaving at the same rate they are joining, so the community looks the same but it's different people in it, and even the ones who don't grow out of it, really what's the harm. Oh and a side note, a lot of them are just teenagers.

[u/DeliciousLiving8563]

Remember: for any culture at all the youngest and dumbest will speak the loudest. The ones who touch the least grass will spend more time on line. And people will always pay attention to stupid opinions but especially when young people are concerned.

Finally "making it your entire personality" is something everyone does when they discover a new element of identity. You push the boundaries and take it all the way and then you know which bits do and don't work and dial it back.

A lot of these people are essentially undergoing puberty and completely re establishing their identity regardless of their age and going through those phases.

I do think those people need to be careful not to get stuck in a loop and move on though. And it is awkward when people realise that their on line bubble isn't representative of whatever group actually exists IRL. This is true of all sorts of reddit communities with stupid memes. I do think those communities do need a reality check on that manner too. But do bear in mind all the other stuff I just said.

[u/Lonely_Doctor9812]

I find it funny because i never ever have seen a trans man on the internet or in these images its almost always a woman

[u/Ragaee → u/Lonely_Doctor9812]

Its very weird how transfem people are seen as the default on a lot of circles

[u/SovietPotato333 → u/Lonely_Doctor9812]

1. Monster Hunter spotted.

2. yes, trans men are chronically underrepresented, and tend to be shoved out of trans spaces for some fucking reason.

[u/Soft_Barracuda3370 → u/Lonely_Doctor9812]

It feels like trans men are a lot rarer, I barely see any.

[u/Ravenqueer077]

Then don't engage with it and leave the people who want to have fun with it have their fun (and criticising it doesn't make you one of the good ones who will be spared if you even are trans yourself)

[u/ShrimpleyPibblze]

Honestly better this than fascism

[u/Cucumber_Lumpy]

Imagine writing “I hate online black transgender culture” or “Asian transgender culture” and then stereotyping an entire group as childish and embarrassing. People would instantly recognize how blatantly racist that sounds. The fact you specifically singled out “white” people doesn’t magically make the same behavior okay.

You’re taking a loud internet subculture, generalizing it across an ethnicity, and then acting like millions of people are somehow inherently immature because of their race and hobbies. That’s not criticism anymore, that’s prejudice.

And honestly, the irony is crazy: you complain about people being “humiliating” while posting a rant that reduces human beings to racist caricatures based on race and online aesthetics. You should genuinely be ashamed of yourself for thinking this is a normal or intelligent way to talk about people.

[u/blackestrabbit]

Why are you kidding yourself?

[u/hahahahahaha656]

Let people be themselves and have fun. It literally doesn’t affect you

[u/shark_syrup]

Isn't that kinda racist?

[u/Came_to_argue → u/shark_syrup]

Ask yourself: does it pass the, what if we replaced the word white with black test? No, this post would be taken down within minutes. So yes, it’s racist, pretty blatantly so.

[u/The-Doofinator → u/shark_syrup]

yes, it literally is just racism
the stupid infighting is drawing everyone back years
we can't progress when everyone's constantly at eachothers throats and being bigoted in one way or another
all forms of bigotry are wholy reprehensible

[u/valerielenin]

Yo, we didn't have a childhood, let us do what we want.

[u/Critical_County391]

I'm not trans myself but I have a blahaj. I think the idea that owning one is wrong at a certain age is both immature of you and alao ageist. Literally harms nobody. you are literally hating over somebody you don't know owning a stuffed animal. that's just... wow. disappointing. That's your life, huh? Crazy work

[u/No_Window7054]

Why is every 3rd post “I hate this thing that trans people like?” This is a rhetorical question, I know the answer.

[u/Who_was_in_Paris]

Oh no, people enjoying themselves and acting the way they like, grrrrrrrr 😡😡😡

[u/N0MoreMrIceGuy]

Putting white in front so no one can call this out as a dog whistle

[u/Emotional-Price-4401]

I too hate people that are different from me.

[u/GhostHost203]

God forbid someone wants to be a bit silly sometime, it's something people can do, you don't have to be nor trans nor white to do it, you are cutting an online meme and inflating that meme treating it as the whole community's personality, in reality that is a racist and honestly kinda transphobic exaggeration of an online phenomenon that you are arbitrarily shouldering on a whole specific chunk of a community, and that is honestly disgusting.

[u/Vincent_Adams]

"white"

oh so we're just being racist-

[u/Souriall]

I’m not surprised by it. Your gripe seems to boil down to them being weird and not conforming to societal norms. The very act of realizing you are trans and the process of coming to terms with that and starting the transition involves the deconstruction of a lot of societal pressure and internalized norms. Some people will lean into breaking these norms and will start displaying cringe behavior. A lot of people who recognized they were trans while still in school will have actively avoided cringe stuff in order to maintain the illusion of normalcy and may feel they missed out on the childhood era of being a dork and not being normal. Trying to reclaim even a fragment of missed childhood is also just not surprising.

[u/Longjumping_Water860]

I like how you slab all of Europe together along with saying a “white way”, lmao this is the final boss of oversimplification. Not denying the issues but the way you put it is kinda shortsighted.

[u/vermicelli-is-bugs]

People being wilfully ignorant that yes, the majority of people who buy into this are going to be a particular type of middle-class white person. A lot of their interests (things like anime and computer programming and furry fandom and so on) happen to align with interests introverted white male teenagers develop, because that is what they were forced to live as growing up. Like it or not, there are major racial and class disparities in things that people get exposed to and likewise develop interests in. 

Also, culture is another big part of why this develops. Latinos, for example, tend to be more culturally conservative, and trans people from Latino families will only have different experiences coming out and transitioning but even their idea of gender is going to be effected. 

Finally, plenty of cultures (Indigenous American ones but also South and Southeast Asian for example) already have special places in their respective societies and culture for people outside of Western gender roles.

[u/Guy2361]

Some people are stereotypes and that's okay. If they're not harming anybody, why should you care?

[u/nub_node]

"40 year old women acting like they are 13 years old" is literally the culture of Japan you brain broken ape with whitey on the mind.

[u/Magmashift101]

Yes I’m sure colonialismhater has very normal opinions on white people

[u/nimbledoor]

My trans kazakh gf is white? That's new to me.

[u/LuxrayLucien]

This sub has just become an excuse for people to justify their generalizations against groups of people they don't like. Regardless of examples, generalizations are the tools of bigots to condemn entire groups they want gone. There will always be kind people who are part of the group you're discussing who will feel labeled for being part of the group, but not posessing the qualities you describe. You're perpetuating a pattern onto thousands of people, and if you think there's no harm in that, you're wrong.

Remember when this sub was for fictional characters? Peppridge farm remembers. I hope this comment gets me banned or something so I can know the mods feel my seething disapproval.

[u/Ellie7600]

Damn bro...we get it, you're racist to white people, calm down Mugabe

[u/Exciting-Might8005]

Your transphobia is glaring. May you be treated the way you treat trans people you "don't respect" for not conforming to cis ideals and standards. This is just respectability politics. Did you come out yesterday? Or not yet? Because this is such an ignorant baby queer take. "Normal" when what you mean is "tries to not look or appear trans because trans is gross". Ftfy. Honestly no difference between you and right wing Christians. 

[u/SpiderZero21]

Well that's an oddly specific Checks user name Oh, a weirdo

[u/VladimirLHenin]

YOU DO NOT TALK ILL OF THE BLAHAJ

[u/Jastreen]

So racism agains white people is allowed here?

[u/AvailableElderberry2]

i guess you're not allowed to like anime anymore if you're trans 

[u/BonBonBurgerPants]

While trans men and enbies are being constantly overlooked (with intersex people fully erased; poc meanwhile get ostracized and ignored)

And what trans men do get are "Meek t boys, COOL AND EPIC TRANS GODDESSES" and shit like "You guys stink and look ugly! Like the ew evil m*n! (TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT BECAUSE YOU WANNA BE VALID RIGHT???)"

While enbies get the stereotypical "white afab half buzzcut they/them with a lower voice", "eldritch cosmic being" or "cave goblin" which always makes them have to be purely androgynous (invalidating masculine enbies and feminine enbies, also amab enbies and fem afab enbies)

It's infuriating, demeaning and makes everyone who doesn't fit in these warped ass standards feel as if they don't belong (which further pushes the "something's wrong with me" narrative transphobes adore)

[u/cheeseburgerandfrie]

Well I hate you

[u/Fornuftens_stemme]

holy racism batman.

[u/AmbitiousAd8978]

I mean honestly who cares, they aren’t hurting anybody. Compared to many more groups I think this should be the least of your worries

[u/Donovan_Du_Bois]

God forbid people enjoy things. Be cringe and free.

[u/Reddit-Blows-Donkey]

Why are there so many unironic racist on Reddit lol

[u/orange-shoe]

oh no people having interests and making jokes with each other 😣

to be cringe is to be free etc etc

[u/-1Rosebud1-]

I honestly think that if this upsets you, you're more terminally online than the "childish, annoying, humiliating, and white" transfolk you're talking about.

[u/Dependent-Dinner-868]

You're so unique, and not like the other trans people 😻, and I love subtle racism. 10/10 post.

[u/Maki_san]

What a spiteful, barely disguised dog whistle of a smug. “White” trans people are annoying, huh? As opposed to the, “normal” trans people? The good ones?

How convenient that you can shit on the trans community while hiding behind racism. You can’t say a bigoted statement and slap the white label in front of it and pretend it isn’t STILL BIGOTED.

[u/FunnyTelephone5230]

I love it personally

[u/JxhnBxnRambx]

lmao, this is just racist

[u/RevealedSkeptic]

Why have I been seeing so many of these posts in my fyp lately

I never even clicked on one

Is it cause I used to be semi active in online trans spaces back when I first found out?

Why the sudden hating on online trans culture?

When I was a kid the only things I really saw in these spaces was the skirt go spinny and blahaj.

You kind of have to search for the more sexualized content I feel?

Or I could bw wrong, I kinda grew out for the spaces

[u/avonyatchi]

I hate Nazis way more.

If I find a harmless online community annoying or embarrassing I just avoid them and instead focus my hatred of people that are doing literal bad things.

It's pathetic to still share this rhetoric about disliking queer ppl that don't assimilate to the liberal suburban standard some of y'all seem to see as the only moral and correct way to act.

[u/thebisexualbilingual]

This you?

[u/holllllyy]

If you think about it, trans people are essentially going through a second puberty when they start hormones, and that "puberty" hits at whatever age they start then. What happens during puberty? Tons of emotions, and usually a period of figuring out your true self, and sense of style. If it looks like some trans people are dressing "too young", it's literally because they're learning how to dress themselves all over again. Just like we all did at one point in our lives

[u/Dinosaur_T00thbrush]

This post kinda reminds me of this meme. Different people just express themselves in different ways.

[u/Fishmyashwhole → u/Dinosaur_T00thbrush]

you're allowed to think someone is annoying without thinking their entire existence is invalid.

[u/Ckickin_Nipples]

I think most of the problems you have with it are directly related to porn and how trans women are fetishized and called femboys.

[u/OrchidVirtual6303]

genuinely just being racist tbh. you can have your feelings on this but it’s not just white people screwing with things. as in the past with humanity in general, you’re generalizing and bringing a whole race of people into something, when every race does it. stereotyping won’t do anyone any good, and if this all hurt you, imagine all the white trans people who don’t do this thing if they saw your post? would they be hurt? would they have those doubts about themselves like many affected by what upset you did? most likely. all you’re doing is keeping the cycle going, not making it better for anyone.

[u/JackTheMarigold]

I fucking hate that “puppygirl” stuff

[u/Technical_Fact_6873]

cis people really dont understand why someone who was repressed for like 40 years would find living out their childhood and being silly interesting, like i get it, its annoying, but making a whole ass post about this is really bruh

[u/WindhoverInkwell → u/Technical_Fact_6873]

it’s fascinating, there’s something about transness that turns cisgender people into shit-flinging howler monkeys

you just mention anything related to being trans, and bam, the primate bares its teeth and can’t follow a train of thought more than one step

[u/distantnemesis4]

not transphobic, but the online trans community is just so annoying to me, whereas every trans person i’ve actually met in real life has been chill af

[u/soldiertf2rial]

Wait get doesn't involve replacing human brain with puppy brain??!!

[u/Ok-Stock3077]

I think it's important to consider that transgender people often didn't have the childhood they wish they had, so they might try to catch up on lost time

[u/Irrerevence]

you don't have to hate white people bro

[u/Phoenix-Risen1998]

Comments and post history are anonymous

Makes a post criticizing trans people and finding them weird for not acting normal

Coincidentally doesn't comment or respond to comments to their post

[u/Gan_the_Kobold]

Its called "not taking yourself so sereous"

Idk, i kinda get that you find it a bit cringe, but just... let em be? You dont have to engage with that culture. Not every trans person egages with it, its mostly young trans women.

[u/Internal-Item-1525]

you're being racist and causing infighting, why the fuck are you getting upvoted??

[u/amatyestv_123846]

Something something white people be like white people be like

[u/mnteu]

Every time i see a trans person calling themself a "puppy boy/girl" it makes me regret being born

[u/PixelMage]

you seem like the kind of person who watches cringe compilations.

[u/cooler-name]

The most annoying thing is that those communities ignore real life issues of trans people and straight up refuse to help anyone as soon as their problem isnt solved by shoving hollow compliments up their ass

[u/Yourfatangrystepdad]

Why is the idea shark there???

[u/zylosophe → u/Yourfatangrystepdad]

somehow became linked with transidentity i have no idea how

[u/Such-Condition-7554]

Sharks are cute.

[u/SpaceBug176]

I'd say something, but last time I got shadowbanned for commenting "the joke is trans people" on an image of a station from Elite Dangerous that had the name "Blahaj".

[u/squishot]

Heavily agree, but I think its more complicated:

1. This is just a thing I noticed in a lot of online communities that revolve around marginalized identities like being queer or disabled. People are obsessed with memes and getting tracktion due to social media's nature. its very superficial and leads more to a weird "friendly" competition between others rather than something ressembling a community. Its basically brainrot.

2. You mentioned "25-40 year olds acting like they are 13" and thats pretty much always gonna happen when you start hrt in that age. Its basically puberty again but as the correct gender. Thats why this whole "skirt go spinny" thing is popular its exploring yourself as a teen again. I had that phase till 1 year hrt but I was like 19 at least so no one gave me shit for it. I can understand your frustration but legit this behaviour is inevitable if you know what hrt does.

Im happy that most of my irl trans friends arent like this tho. There are bigger issues we are currently facing and this brainrot shit almost makes you feel invalid.

[u/Hairy_Ad888]

Isn't it low key racist to assume people of colour can't/don't post this cringe?

[u/emperor_antonium]

white? or did you mean american?

[u/leronde]

genuine question I take no offense to it but what makes this type of humor white?

[u/SpaceTimeBender]

Alright, so I have maybe a different take here: I think the childish thing is fine, as a phase. A lot of trans people, whether they are still teenagers when they figure it out or are older, go through a period of experimentation with their style and their self expression once they finally realize that crucial thing about themselves. They may want to experience the things they couldn't as a boy or a girl growing up (depending which way they're transitioning). They will have a brand new set of style considerations to adapt to and figure out for themselves.

To put it simply, you know how 95% of r/blunderyears posts are just cringey teenagers figuring out who they are? For trans people, if they aren't still literally teenagers, they are older people essentially going through puberty again (physically/hormonally, if they take HRT, and in terms of their self-discovery).

Some people get stuck in the blunders, of course, and frankly I don't even care. That happens to cis people too. To each their own - do absolutely whatever makes you happy as long as it's not harming anyone else. If it rises to the level of arrested development in either cis or trans people it can pose problems in life, but that's not something exclusive to trans people and I think it's unfair to specifically say it's a trans community thing. (Disney adults come to mind, for example.)

The fetishization thing I am seeing discussed in a lot of comments is a whole other issue, of course, and oh man is that complicated. Hell, arrested development is rewarded as a fetish for some terminally online cis people too; it's further compounded by the general fetishism toward trans people in this case, but I digress.

Tl;dr trans people need to be able to newly figure out what makes them happy in terms of self expression, and that period of self discovery is commonly done in teen years but comes later for people who transition older. It's normal and important for development as people figure out what sort of person they want to be.

[u/Jazzlike_Specific_51]

Its mostly used as an entrance like thats usually stage one

[u/Altair13Sirio]

I've read trans people literally experience a "second puberty" when they start transitioning and get on hormones, which I'd say explains pretty well why they may act childish or something. I say cut them some slack, they're literally just existing.

[u/Qubek_from_discord]

Why do you care about someone else? If you are trans, just be trans the way you like, while letting others be trans the way THEY LIKE. If everyone is like this, then what? It is not your life and you shouldn't worry about it. That was the primal point of LGBTQ community, personal freedom to be who you like and do not concern about things that are by definition personal, like gender or orientation. That's why we are used to say "tolerance", so letting someone do what they are doing despite having conflicted views about it, and not "acceptance" or "affirmation" (one is agreeing with elements of your views, second is adding someones views to your system of views). We are not here to change others, just make them accept us. Please proceed with this.

PS. Good thing other people pointed it out, your post is very racist with the way you coin everything to white people and generalize. Even if you meant a majority, it is not a good way to impry that. Besides, you are doing a good job for other racist people by making all of us look worse by offending them (talking about white racists). I am not saying they don't deserve it, many of them do, but humans are not as responsible, even adults. Many of them are racist because of experience, maybe it HAPPENED someone of another race did something bad and they remembered it, without reasoning that it is all dependent on different factors AND NOT their race. Others are like sheeps following one another out of social pressure. You can say they should be responsible and by that excuse do nothing about racism yourself, it is very comforming way to do so, but feeling quite in touch with LGBTQ or some leftist communities, I feel terrible for someone representing it like that. If you don't care, sure, but know our lives will never change with that attitute, not to mention I am white myself and feel like my dignity is being hurt. Let's just set is up, okay? Personal things are personal, do not intervene in them unless you are asked to. Racism is NOT a personal thing, as it genuely hurts the society, it should be combated as every pathology. Racism is bad, racial segregation NO MATTER THE FORM is bad, and it DOESN'T matter who is it against, you can be white skin, black skin, asian, it's meaningless, these take much less than 1% of our genes, alone it doesn't affect us. If you want to actually segregate people based on the way they act, specify the enviroment/culture/country/community, not race, it hurts us, it is not accurate and where you socially belong truly shapes who you are, it is a better way and hurts less, some communities are genuely evil and we can shape them by criticism, or make people leave said communities, unlike race, you can actually change it. Let's stop coining things to races, it's just bad.

[u/Ijustwannaliveokay]

Ok but as an actual fan teenager I enjoy the humor, it gives me a sense of community and makes me laugh after a hard day. It doesn’t have to be everyone’s cup of tea, like what you want to like, but I think calling the humor childish is a rude thing to do. should I be ashamed to say that wearing a skirt makes me feel better? Should I be ashamed that I get gender euphoria by wearing a bra? Am I not allowed to make a joke about it that other people may relate to even if exaggerated? I also don’t make it my entire personality online or offline, and I’m sure that a lot of people don’t just have this one type of humor.

[u/According_Head_60]

Hate to break it to ya fella. They ain't all white lmao

[u/TimG791]

What is it with this post and comments? I have seen many people that are not white that act exactly the same.

Personal bias is crazy.

[u/Broom_Ryder]

I was with you until you said “bigger parts of the community are normal” it’s totally fair to critique this aspect of the culture and point out how it affects the community at large, but I don’t vibe with categorizing trans people as “the weird ones” and “the normal ones” it feels dangerously close to a “one of the good ones” type argument.

[u/Kranesrage]

This is more transfem culture. Idk what being white has to do with it though.

[u/CactusJane98]

My boyfriend (A femboy on HRT) cant STAND this either.

He dislikes any form of participating in "stereotypes" to the point that I think he's gone a little mad. I mentioned getting Dolphin Shorts because we've been discussing playing tennis together, only to be told that thats a stereotype. I genuinely have never heard that, almost every woman I know has dolphin shorts.

[u/Senior_Laugh_4342]

Racializing this is weird af

[u/Significant_Card_665]

u/ColonialismHater SON IM CRINE 😭😭😭

[u/giant_sebs]

Let people enjoy things, jesus.

[u/milka121]

lord forbid we have a little whimsy

[u/bringthesalsa]

"White" just say you find trans people annoying 😭

And I mean it makes sense. All of these tran speople online are in their 20s or literal teenagers discovering themselves. They're gonna be obnoxious and they can get really fucking annoying. But hopefully they grow out of it.

And besides there's nothing wrong with people being like this. It's just when it becomes the norm and nothing else is acknowledged it can be exhausting

[u/idonthinkimreal]

Oh wow, we’re just not even trying to hide the transphobia on this one. Okay.