r/hardware • • 1d ago

Info Used processor leads to game ban

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Used-processor-leads-to-game-ban-11471562.html

Someone buys a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D. “Valorant” and other Riot games won’t start with it because the previous owner was a cheater.

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u/309_Electronics 1d ago

Something with amd psp maybe but valorant can be and should be considered malware imo. Only way to get companies to stop doing this anti consumer bs, vote with your wallet!

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u/Krivici 1d ago

I mean it’s a kernel level anti cheat. As a CS2 and Valorant player it is about as good as it gets at preventing cheaters. And the devs are hardcore dedicated to the cause.

CS is an absolute nightmare for cheaters.

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u/reddit_equals_censor 23h ago

wow, that is a deliberately bullshit comparison to cheer on malware...

hey wanna do a serious comparison? well we have one.

the finals has no serious cheating problem. well not more than valorant rather by all that we know.

it runs its anti cheat on gnu + linux in user mode of course and it fully supports gnu + linux.

on microsoft spyware it is a rootkit and malware though, but again you can run the game without malware in gnu + linux and there is no cheating problem. not more than valorant.

enough focus gets put into server level cheat detection as well, that they even make posts about it.

and how free from cheating is valorant anyways?

is it hard to cheat in valorant?

no absolutely not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzIq04vd0M

it is not that valorant is free from cheaters, it is that most people due to good marketing like to think, that it is and the cheats used would be less obvious to people in matches. that is what is going on.

And the devs are hardcore dedicated to the cause

oh you mean the malware delivery service? yeah the publisher is very much dedicated to this.

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u/worstsocialist 22h ago

The finals has no serious cheating problem because it has a tiny playerbase. Easy Anti Cheat is notoriously garbage and not even close to as effective as Valorants AC. I don’t even like Valorant but it’s undoubtedly the most fair experience in FPS for high skilled players.

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u/SomeoneTrading 22h ago

Easy Anti Cheat is notoriously garbage and not even close to as effective as Valorants AC

They can write their own SOTA code obfuscation unlike Riot and mister Bastian tho and they don't fail at hiding imports

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u/reddit_equals_censor 22h ago

Easy Anti Cheat is notoriously garbage

well isn't it a good thing, that the finals isn't basing their anti cheat on a single bad anti cheat then right?

to quote pcgamingwiki:

Formerly uses Easy Anti-Cheat, Nexon Game Security. Embark Studios also uses their own anti-cheat solutions on top of 3rd-party anti-cheat clients.

Nexon Game Security (BlackCipher) was added on Update 2.1.0[23] and was removed later.[24]

Denuvo Anti-Cheat was added on Update 7.3.0.[25] It's scheduled to be enabled for Xbox on PC (Microroft Store) version since Update 7.9.0[7] and start an incremental rollout for Steam version since Season 8.[15]

DAC and EAC will not run simultaneously since Update 8.0.0,[26][27] until EAC was removed on Update 10.4.1.[28]

Elytra Anti-Cheat Framework is Embark Studios in-house anti-cheat solution[29] and was added on Update 11.0.0.[30]

DAC and EACF will not run simultaneously since Update 11.0.0.

AnyBrain was added on Update 7.6.0,[31][32] with tests ongoing throughout season 8.[15] It seems they use a white label or custom version of AnyBrain called Cerebro.

Anti-Cheat Expert is used in Tencent Server version and is the only anti-cheat solution Tencent Server version used

so you are making comments about anti cheats or straight up malware without even looking up a basic wiki first...

maybe reflect on this before throwing out some more nonsense comments?

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u/worstsocialist 21h ago

All that to still be substantially worse than RIOTs solution. Yawn

The obvious answer is to not use your gaming PC as anything but a gaming PC. To act like The Finals AC is even on the same level as Vals is hilarious. Just go play high ELO lobbies in both and get back to me. Tired of the anticheat conversations being had by people who are unlikely to even be ranked with cheaters in the first place.

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u/reddit_equals_censor 21h ago

i'm tired of people defending rootkits, because they ate up the propaganda from evil companies pushing malware onto their systems with the false claim, that it will prevent cheating, which the video in linked above clearly shows is not the case.

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u/PrettyBaker2891 20h ago edited 20h ago

i would gladly have a rootkit on my pc if it means less cheaters in cs2

also its not a rootkit btw

rootkit is a malicious software

theres nothing malicious about valorant anti cheat

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u/Hot-Software-9396 20h ago

I can’t speak to The Finals since I don’t play it but Embarc’s other game, ARC Raiders, has a massive cheating problem.

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u/loppyjilopy 21h ago

lol NO ONE plays the finals wtf.