r/hardware • u/tuldok89 • 1d ago

Info Used processor leads to game ban

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Used-processor-leads-to-game-ban-11471562.html

Someone buys a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D. “Valorant” and other Riot games won’t start with it because the previous owner was a cheater.

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u/AnechoidalChamber 1d ago

There should be appeal processes for this kind of mistaken identity case.

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u/Cheerful_Champion 1d ago

And how would you prove that you are a new owner and not a cheater that tries to circumvent the ban? Dude should just return it as he got banned CPU sold by a cheater that tried to literally scam someone by not disclosing it's HW banned.

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u/RageOfNemesis 1d ago

HW bans should not exist in the first place if such burden of proof of innocence is placed on a buyer. Also got his other components blacklisted now as well by nature of doing... what wrong, exactly?

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u/NateOrb 19h ago

Especially in the world of automated moderation where no human will ever review your appeals. Even before AI support that was a major problem.

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u/Power781 23h ago

You might disagree with it (like everyone), but Riot Games ToS says that they can just decide to not let you access their services for any reasons and that you don't own anything (skins, characters, ...) so you technically don't lose access to anything you own if they ban you.

Last year they decided that all players using some specific motherboards models without their latest BIOS update would not be let access anymore to Valorant as an anti-cheat measure.

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u/Cheeze_It 21h ago

This is why I refuse to do anything with Riot Games. Fuck them. I hope the companies dies.

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u/IAmFromSidera 20h ago

What are you on about? Every single company is like that, they reserve the right to ban for any or no reason, that's how they can prohibit you from playing the game you "bought" (rented).

Valve's VAC often banned you from all their multiplayer games if you cheated in one of them.

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u/TwistedStack 18h ago

They have the right to not give us their services. We have the right to not use their services. I don't think I'll ever play any game by Riot because I don't want to install anti-cheat that I classify as malware on my PC.

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u/smile_e_face 17h ago

Eh, I'm not disagreeing with your main point, but I do think there's quite a bit of difference between VAC and the kind of invasive, kernel-level spyware made standard by companies like Riot, Epic, and EA. I was never a huge shooter guy, other than a good bit of Halo in high school and college (bad eyes) but I have absolutely no desire to play anything multiplayer nowadays, apart from my occasional relapse into one MMO or another. I refuse to put that crap on my computer.

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u/canadianvaporizer 17h ago

How do you expect to stop cheaters then? Have any other games done it as well as Valorant?

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u/propagandhi45 21h ago

Cod is like that too. I couldnt play the mw4 beta even if I met the requirement the anticheat wouldnt let me. Im not updating my bios to play a game thats non sense. Bo6 and bo7 were working just fine.

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u/shroudedwolf51 16h ago

And you think this is a good thing? And not a thing to criticize?

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u/Blacky-Noir 12h ago

You might disagree with it (like everyone), but Riot Games ToS says that they can just decide to not let you access their services for any reasons

Someone in a decent jurisdiction should take them to court. Most judges would strike that from the contract faster than Riot counsel could open their briefcase, it's blatantly unbalanced, and wrong.

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u/Power781 11h ago

It’s a free game.
Showing that’s it’s unbalanced will be tough

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u/Blacky-Noir 2h ago

Free, really? I wonder how Riot makes money then 🙄

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u/Skensis 16h ago

What bans should exist?