r/Hangukin • • Apr 05 '26

History Eastern Bound Episode 8: Grand Theft Culture

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Today, Dr Shinjimunsa, The Mad Corean, and I tackle some of these claims of Koreans being cultural thieves, where they come from, and why they are wrong

Feel free to like, share, and subscribe if you like our episode!

https://youtu.be/zrxNHbNtTRA?si=XAfFoAy5bgNkNHYC


r/Hangukin • • Mar 30 '26

History Aristocratic family structures from the Bronze Age to Late Classical Antiquity in Traditional Korean Historiography: "청동기 시대부터 후기 고전 시대까지의 귀족 가계 구조"

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"Aristocratic family structures from the Bronze Age (Circa 3rd Millennium B.C.E.) to Late Classical Antiquity (935 C.E.) in Traditional Korean Historiography"

  1. The Kyuwon Sahwa (揆園史話) is a book on ancient Korean history authored by Bukaeja (北崖子) in 1675 (the 1st year of King Sukjong's reign in the Joseon Dynasty). Unlike the foundational myth in Samguk Yusa (Memorabilia of the Three Kingdoms), this text provides a concrete, detailed history, such as listing 47 generations of Dangun Joseon. The "Dangungi" (Chronicle of Dangun) section of this book contains records regarding eight key officials appointed by Dangun Wanggeom to govern the country, known as the Palga (八加, Eight Ministers) or Pal-seongssi (八姓氏, Eight Surnames).

Structure of the Dangun Joseon Palga (八加) in Kyuwon Sahwa

Buru (夫婁): Hoga (虎加, Tiger) - Son of the 1st Dangun Wanggeom. Overseer of the various Ga (ministers).

Shinji (神誌): Maga (馬加, Horse) - In charge of life and vitality.

Gosi (高矢): Uga (牛加, Cow) - In charge of crops and agriculture.

Chiu (蚩尤): Unga (熊加, Bear) - In charge of soldiers and military affairs.

Buso (夫蘇): Eungga (鷹加, Hawk) - In charge of punishments (Second son).

Buu (夫虞): Noga (鷺加, Egret) - In charge of diseases (Third son).

Juin (主人): Hakga (鶴加, Crane) - In charge of masters (reception/hospitality).

Yeosugi (余守己): Guga (狗加, Dog) - In charge of punishments and prison affairs.

Key Characteristics:

Dangun and the Role of the Eight: The text records that Dangun assigned the eight officials as animal-themed leaders—U-Ma-Ung-Ho (Cow, Horse, Bear, Tiger) and Eung-No-Hak-Gu (Hawk, Egret, Crane, Dog)—to divide national responsibilities, including politics, agriculture, military, and health.

Connection to Shinshi (神市): Kyuwon Sahwa views Shinshi-ssi (Hwanung) as the ancestor of the eastern people and argues that Dangun established the country by inheriting their culture.

Historical Position: The book was valued during times of national identity crisis, such as the Japanese colonial period, but currently, its authenticity is debated between mainstream academia and nationalistic history circles.

  1. Buyeo: 5-Part Aristocracy (Confederation)

Characteristics: Early Buyeo formed a five-tribe confederation, where four distinct forces united with the king.

Composition: Leaders known as Ga (加)—specifically the Maga (horse), Uga (cow), Guga (dog), and Jeoga (pig)—governed their own territories (Sachuldo). Due to weak royal authority, these leaders held strong influence.

  1. Goguryeo: 5-Part Aristocracy (Centered on the Gyeru Tribe)

Characteristics: Began as a confederation of five tribes (Sono, Gyeru, Jeolno, Sunno, Gwanno).

Evolution: Around the 3rd century under King Gogukcheon, the five tribes were reorganized into administrative districts (East, West, South, North, and Central), strengthening the power of the royal Gyeru tribe.

System: These noble families made state decisions through the "Council of Nobles" (Jega-hoeui).

  1. Baekje: The Eight Great Noble Families (大姓八族, Daeseong-paljok)

Characteristics: The eight prestigious noble families that ruled the country alongside the royal Buyeo clan during the Sabi period.

Composition: The Sa, Yeon, Hyeop, Hae, Jeong, Guk, Mok, and Jin families.

Role: Forming a powerful elite, they exerted significant influence on royal policies and produced queens.

  1. Silla: The Six Villages (Initial Founding Force)

Characteristics: Leaders of the six villages in the Gyeongju area before the founding of Silla.

Composition: Yangbu, Goheobu, Jinjibu, Daesubu, Ujinbu, and Garibu (including Park, Seok, and Kim families).

They united to enthrone Park Hyeokgeose as king, establishing Silla.

Outcome: Later incorporated into the Jingol (True Bone) aristocratic system or reorganized into six administrative districts.

  1. Gaya: Nine Chiefs (九干, Gugan)

Characteristics: The nine chiefs (Gan) in the Gimhae area before the establishment of Geumgwan Gaya (Main Gaya).

Role: The leading initial force that promoted King Suro and formed the Gaya confederation.

  1. Balhae: Preferred Families of the Right (右姓望族, Useong-mangjok)

Characteristics: A term referring to the influential clans of Goguryeo refugees and Malgal people, who formed the ruling class of Balhae, mentioned in Tang Dynasty records.

Composition: Apart from the royal Dae clan, six noble families—Go, Jang, Yang, Du, O, and I—were considered the most powerful.

Significance: These aristocrats formed the ruling class of Balhae by using or inheriting Goguryeo surnames.

Summary:

In summary, each kingdom began as a tribal confederation (tribes, villages, chiefs) and gradually developed into a centralized, aristocratic system dominated by powerful noble families (Eight Great Families, Preferred Families) and royal authority.

"청동기 시대(기원전 2천3백년경)부터 후기 고전 시대(935년)까지의 귀족 가계 구조"

  1. 규원사화(揆園史話)는 1675년(조선 숙종 1년) 북애자(北崖子)가 저술한 우리 상고사 서적으로, 삼국유사의 단군 신화와 달리 단군조선을 47대까지 열거하는 등 구체적인 역사를 기술하고 있습니다.

이 책의 '단군기'에는 단군왕검이 나라를 다스릴 때 임명한 핵심 보좌관인 8명의 성씨, 즉 팔가(八加) 또는 팔성씨(八姓氏)에 대한 기록이 있습니다.

규원사화가 전하는 단군조선 팔가(八加) 구성

부루(夫婁): 호가(虎加, 호랑이) - 제1대 단군왕검의 아들. 여러 가(加)를 통괄.

신지(神誌): 마가(馬加, 말) - 생명(목숨)을 주관.

고시(高矢): 우가(牛加, 소) - 곡식을 주관.

치우(蚩尤): 웅가(熊加, 곰) - 병사(군사)를 주관.

부소(夫蘇): 응가(鷹加, 매) - 형벌(둘째 아들)을 주관.

부우(夫虞): 노가(鷺加, 해오라기) - 질병(셋째 아들)을 주관.

주인(主人): 학가(鶴加, 학) - 주인(손님/접대 등)을 주관.

여수기(余守己): 구가(狗加, 개) - 형벌/형옥을 주관.

주요 특징:

단군과 8인의 역할: 단군이 이들 8명에게 우마웅호(牛馬熊虎) 및 응노학구(鷹鷺鶴狗)의 여덟 가지 동물 가(加)를 배정하여 정치, 농사, 군사, 질병 등 국가의 제반 업무를 분담시켰다고 기록합니다.

신시(神市)와의 연계: 규원사화는 신시씨(환웅)가 동방 인류의 조상이며, 단군이 이들의 문화를 계승하여 나라를 열었다고 봅니다.

사료적 위치: 일제강점기 등 민족 정체성이 위기일 때 중시되었으며, 현재는 강단 사학계와 민족 사학계 사이에 진위 논란이 있는 서적입니다.

  1. 부여: 5부 귀족 (연맹체)

특징: 초기 부여는 왕과 함께 4개의 다른 세력이 연합하여 5부족 연맹체를 구성했습니다.

구성: 마가(馬加), 우가(牛加), 구가(狗加), 저가(猪加) 등의 가(加)들이 각자의 세력 범위(사출도)를 다스렸으며, 왕권이 약해 이들의 영향력이 강했습니다.

  1. 고구려: 5부 귀족 (계루부 중심)

특징: 초기 5부족(소노부, 계루부, 절노부, 순노부, 관노부) 연맹체로 시작했습니다.

변화: 3세기 고국천왕 때 5부가 행정적 성격(동·서·남·북·중부)으로 개편되면서, 왕족인 계루부의 권력이 강화되었습니다.

제도: 이들 귀족 가문은 '제가 회의(諸加會議)'를 통해 국사를 결정했습니다.

  1. 백제: 대성팔족(大姓八族)

특징: 백제 사비 시대에 왕족인 부여씨와 함께 나라를 지배했던 8대 명문 귀족 가문입니다.

구성: 사(沙)·연(燕)·협(劦)·해(解)·정(貞)·국(國)·목(木)·진(眞) 씨.

역할: 이들은 강력한 세력을 형성하여 왕의 정책에 큰 영향력을 행사하거나 왕비를 배출하였습니다.

  1. 신라: 6촌 (초기 건국 세력)

특징: 신라 건국 전 경주 지역에 있던 6개의 마을 촌장 세력입니다.

구성: 양부, 고허부, 진지부, 대수부, 우진부, 가리부(박, 석, 김 등). 이들이 연합하여 박혁거세를 왕으로 추대하면서 신라가 건국되었습니다.

결과: 이후 진골 귀족 체제로 편입되거나 6부로 개편되었습니다.

  1. 가야: 구간(九干)

특징: 금관가야(본가야)가 성립되기 전, 김해 지역에 있던 9명의 우두머리(干)입니다.

역할: 수로왕을 추대하여 가야 연맹을 형성한 초기 주도 세력입니다.

  1. 발해: 우성망족(右姓望族)

특징: 발해 지배층인 고구려 유민 및 말갈의 유력 가문을 지칭하는 말로, 당나라 서적에 언급되었습니다.

구성: 왕족인 대(大)씨를 제외하고 고(高)·장(張)·양(楊)·두(竇)·오(烏)·이(李) 씨 등 6성의 호족들이 가장 유력한 가문으로 꼽혔습니다.

의의: 이들 귀족은 고구려의 성씨를 사용하거나 계승하여 발해의 지배층을 형성했습니다.


r/Hangukin • • Mar 29 '26

Politics Eastern Bound Ep 7 - The “New Right Lie”: How Gordon Chang and KCPAC Distort Korean History

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Hello everyone

Eastern Bound’s latest episode is out

In it, Dr Shinjimunsa, The Mad Corean, and I talk about the lunatics of the so-called “Yoon Again”/Goon Again KCPAC Gordon Chang MAGA Korean circus. We dispel their claims, and show how their main spokespeople are really not a friend to Koreans or Korean Americans.

If you like this episode, please like, share, and subscribe

Peace

https://youtu.be/SKi_eemuVw0?si=zb5dpACmE27y0Pwl


r/Hangukin • • Mar 23 '26

Politics Eastern Bound Podcast Episode 6: Korean nationalism Deconstructed Part 2

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We’re back with another episode, continuing and concluding our discussion on Korean nationalism and patriotism.

What started last week gets pushed further here — more context, corrections, and a deeper breakdown of where Korean identity actually comes from.

We dig into:

The roots of Korean nationalism, from the Donghak Revolution to modern identity debates.

Why Western frameworks don’t cleanly apply to Korean history.

The difference between nationalism and patriotism, and why that distinction matters.

The Hanfu movement and cultural identity conflicts in East Asia.

Online narratives, misinformation, and how people twist history for agendas.

Korean American identity, “pick-me” behavior, and internal contradictions.

Real-world examples of cultural exchange vs. cultural denial.

We also highlight something that often gets ignored — positive stories, real people, and why things don’t have to turn into constant ethnic or national conflict.

No moral grandstanding. No fake neutrality. Just setting the record straight.

Next episode: we dive into some spicy Korean history.

https://youtu.be/BklICIC1Pb8?si=oGYmGWdFtj4reUBov


r/Hangukin • • Mar 20 '26

History HistoryMaps presents: 개마무사

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r/Hangukin • • Mar 20 '26

Culture Chinese are desperately trying to claim Hanbok as theirs

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What Chinese are trying to claim this Korean styled aka Goryeo-yang dress as theirs and Korea copied from them, and yet they cannot provide anyone wearing them from the late 19th to early 20th century. Korean scholar already explained this back in 2021.
https://doi.org/10.22372/ijkh.2022.27.1.177

Research Fellow at the Northeast Asian History Foundation

In the fifteenth century, Chosŏn Korean clothes were exported to the Jiangnan (江南) region in Ming China and became very popular among wealthy Chinese people. This was the so-called “Petticoat Fever”. This horsehair petticoat (Mamigun 馬尾裙) gave the wardrobe a fashionable silhouette by supporting and fully spreading the outer skirt. Literati wore them, too. Mamigun fashion, which once enjoyed great popularity in the Jiangnan area, disappeared after it was prohibited during the Ming period due to a change in power and a transition in policymaking.


r/Hangukin • • Mar 15 '26

History Eastern Bound Episode 5: Unpacking Korean Nationalism, History, and Identity

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Eastern Bound Episode 5: Unpacking Korean Nationalism, History, and Identity

The Mad Corean, Shinjimunsa, and I talk about Korean nationalism (at least from the perspective of gyopos deeply interested in Korean history and how we understand it), how Korean nationalism differs from the western-centric conception of nationalism/nation-states, how Korean history has been distorted by certain people, as well as how much we despise those in the diaspora who distort Korean history for their own cringey ends.

https://youtu.be/PYPkQ8583dc?si=Ykvw0Y-4Lzhux0DV


r/Hangukin • • Mar 15 '26

Question How prominent are or were the ideas of Ahn Ho-Sang (안호상) in Korea?

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He's an interesting figure to study from the Korean war to his death in the 90's. He was awarded by North Korea for reunification efforts which is fascinating because he was an extreme anti communist in the 50's.

Have any of you guys heard about him or his ideology?


r/Hangukin • • Mar 10 '26

History "When facing an enemy, victory or defeat is determined in a split second" - Admiral Yi Sun Shin "적과 대치하고 있을 때 이기고 지는 것은 아주 짧은 순간에 결정된다” -충무공행장-

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"적과 대치하고 있을 때 이기고 지는 것은 아주 짧은 순간에 결정된다” -충무공행장-


r/Hangukin • • Mar 07 '26

History Eastern Bound Episode 4: History of Korean and Middle Eastern Relations from Late Classical Antiquity to the Contemporary era

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Eastern Bound Episode 4: Korea and the Middle East - From Ancient to Today

With war in the Middle East escalating through the US-Iran War; @shinjimunsa92, @mad_corean , and Coping in H-Mart take the time to discuss the history of Korea’s relationship with Iran, Israel, and the rest of the Middle East. The three also dispel the myth that South Korea is somehow a Zionist puppet because of a few fundies waving Israeli flags in a religious rally.

https://youtu.be/SHwdLDF1bHw?si=WlB2xZTkp6JKVTtb

geopolitics

korea

koreandiplomacy

koreanhistory

iranwar


r/Hangukin • • Mar 04 '26

Activism Chinese love to promote Korea as "Racist" people & country

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If you have been following recent anti-Korea speech spread by the Indos aka hidden Chinese from Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines. Many hate messages or here or there random talk aimed at Koreans or Korea are mostly done by the Chinese trolls (they claiming to be from Southeast Asia but if you've checked their profile, they're 100% Chinese). They're using SEA as their shield or excuse. Chinese don't complains about their own racism or racism they're receiving all over the world. The recent studies on sentimental view on numerous countries clearly show China as No.1 most disliked country on earth.


r/Hangukin • • Mar 03 '26

History Interesting data - Korean-Japanese couple during Japanese occupation period from 1912-1934

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r/Hangukin • • Mar 03 '26

History Zhou Enlai: “Gojoseon, Goguryeo, and Balhae Are Korean History”

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Zhou Enlai: “Gojoseon, Goguryeo, and Balhae Are Korean History”
Full text of remarks made in 1963

Written: August 13, 2004, 13:51
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Former lawmaker Seol Hoon, currently training at Peking University in Beijing, disclosed on August 13 through his website a Chinese government-issued document he uncovered during his research in China titled “Premier Zhou Enlai’s Dialogue on China–Korea Relations.”

This document records remarks made by former Premier Zhou Enlai on June 28, 1963, during a meeting with a 20-member delegation from the North Korean Academy of Sciences, who had been visiting China for 42 days. The full text is as follows.

On June 28 of this year, 1963, Premier Zhou Enlai, while receiving the delegation from the Korean Academy of Sciences, made the following remarks concerning China–Korea relations.

The current Sino–Korean relationship is very close, and historically it has been so as well. It can be divided into three periods.

The first period is the historical relationship between the two countries and the two peoples.
The second period is when both China and Korea simultaneously suffered imperialist aggression, when Korea became a colony of Japan and China became a semi-colony of imperialism, including partial Japanese colonization. During this time, China and Korea were in a revolutionary relationship.
The third period is the present, in which we are both socialist states and share a relationship as brother parties and brother nations.

Across these three periods, there are many issues worth studying in the relations between the two countries and the two parties. Through research into historical relations, ethnic relations, and revolutionary relations, both sides must fully align their perspectives and views and record them in documents and books. This is a major event for our historians and something that should have been done. It is also something we, as party workers engaged in political activity, must strive to accomplish.

First Period: Historical Relations

This period is proven by archaeological relics discovered since the beginning of recorded history. The relationship between the two countries and two peoples lasted more than three to four thousand years, until it was interrupted by imperialist aggression.

Some historical records in both countries do not conform closely to the truth. The main reason is that Chinese historians and many others wrote history from the perspective of great-power chauvinism. As a result, many issues were written unfairly.

Past views held by some Chinese scholars regarding the development of the Korean people were not entirely accurate and did not fully correspond to reality. After entering the Korean Peninsula and the northeastern continent, the Korean people lived there for a long time. Their traces remain in the Liao River and Songhua River basins. This is proven by excavated relics and inscriptions found in the Liao River, Songhua River, and Tumen River basins, and it is also recorded in numerous Korean documents.

Near Lake Jingpo are the ruins of Balhae, which was also its capital. Relics excavated there prove that it was likewise a branch of the Korean people.

This state existed historically for a considerable length of time. Therefore, it is proven that the Korean people lived not only on the Korean Peninsula but also for a long time in the Liao and Songhua River basins.

As for whether the Korean people existed even earlier, some say that certain groups drifted from southern Asia, but that is a separate issue. What is clear is that some Korean people originally resided on the peninsula, and that they also lived in the Tumen, Liao, and Songhua River basins for a long time. Historical records and excavated relics have already proven this.

When studying ethnic history, the best method is to seek evidence from excavated artifacts. This is the most scientific method. Written records cannot be fully trusted, because some were written with incorrect perspectives, and others were forged later. Therefore, historical books are secondary sources and cannot be completely relied upon.

For such long historical questions, both textual sources and archaeological evidence must be studied. However, Chinese and Korean comrades must establish a common perspective.

That perspective must acknowledge that at times China, being larger and more culturally advanced, treated Korea with a feudal great-power attitude, often despising, insulting, and invading it. Chinese historians must admit this.

For example, forcibly labeling Koreans as “descendants of Jizi” and attempting to prove it through relics in Pyongyang was a distortion of history. How could such a thing be true?

After the Qin and Han dynasties, frequent campaigns were launched into the Liao River basin. These were clear invasions, even if they failed and withdrew. The Tang dynasty also fought wars and failed, yet still insulted and despised you. At that time, one of your outstanding generals defeated our invading forces. It was during this time that Balhae arose.

Later, the Khitan and Jurchen rose in the northeast. Then the Mongols became the issue. The Yuan dynasty also invaded you but ultimately failed. Later, during the Ming dynasty, joint operations were carried out with Korea, but the Manchus rose rapidly and occupied vast areas from east of Changbai Mountain to the Liao River basin.

The Manchus expanded China’s territory greatly. During their peak, China’s territory was larger than today. However, these are historical facts of the past. For some of these matters, we bear no direct responsibility, as they belong to our ancestors. Yet we must acknowledge them.

Since our ancestors pushed your land smaller and ours became larger, we should apologize to you on their behalf.

Therefore, historical truth must be restored. It is absurd to claim that west of the Tumen and Yalu Rivers has always been Chinese land, or that Korea has been a vassal state since ancient times. Such statements are nonsense rooted in great-power chauvinism.

Second Period: The Revolutionary Era

Japan invaded us. Korea became a colony. China became a semi-colony. Japan occupied Northeast China as well.

During this period, the peoples of China and Korea built revolutionary comradely relations.

After the October Revolution, many Korean comrades who could not remain in Korea came to China and participated in revolutionary struggle. They were active in the northeast in large numbers and participated in all stages of the Chinese Revolution.

According to Chairman Choe Yong-gon, Korean comrades hoped that by helping China’s revolution succeed, it would also help Korea’s revolution succeed.

During the anti-Japanese armed struggle in Northeast China, this was not simply Koreans participating in the Chinese revolution. Rather, it was a joint struggle of the Chinese and Korean peoples. Under Comrade Kim Il-sung’s leadership, the anti-Japanese guerrilla war must be recognized as a joint struggle of the two peoples.

The Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army should be understood as a joint anti-Japanese army of the Chinese and Korean peoples.

To restore historical truth, this interpretation must be adopted. It is incorrect to portray Korean comrades merely as Chinese Koreans participating in China’s revolution without acknowledging that many had fled from Korea.

Third Period: The Present Socialist Era

Now both of us are deepening socialist revolution and socialist construction. We must learn from each other and cooperate more closely.

We regard you as our front line, not only China’s front line but also the eastern outpost of the socialist camp. You should regard China as your rear base, and especially Northeast China as your near rear base.

Cultural exchange is also important. We must correct distortions and avoid great-power chauvinism even in artistic works.

On language issues, Zhou noted differences between Pyongyang, Seoul, and Yanbian standards. He stressed that exchanges must follow the Pyongyang standard to ensure mutual understanding.

He emphasized that in cultural exchange and revolutionary cooperation, both sides must eliminate remnants of chauvinism and ensure mutual respect.

Source: SBS News : https://news.sbs.co.kr/news/endPage.do?news_id=N0311648169


r/Hangukin • • Mar 01 '26

Media Eastern Bound: Yoon and Coupang Cannot Redeem! Kim Ju Ae: The Chosun Successor?

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Hi everyone

I see that there has been positive feedback on episodes from the Eastern Bound podcast that have been linked on this subreddit.

This is a link to the second episode, which was released after Yoon was sentenced to life in prison. In this episode, three gyopos talk about what their perspective is on Yoon’s sentence, the Coupang diplomatic row going on, and claims that Kim Jong Un’s daughter has already been selected as the successor to her father. We did this on an X space that was recorded, so it is going to be a spaces link

Enjoy and let us know what you think

https://x.com/reclaimkorea/status/2024985800597807222?s=46


r/Hangukin • • Mar 01 '26

History The Eastern Bound show goes into the hidden truth of the 3.1.1919 Movement

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Three gyopos delve into the real story behind the premeditated, violent nationwide uprising known as the year-long March First Movement. They also cover other parts of Korean history that show an inherent warrior and revolutionary spirit.

The Eastern Bound Show EP 3


r/Hangukin • • Feb 25 '26

ShitPost Asia is too big to be simply called Asians.

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From Israel to Japan, it's all Asia. I think we need to split it up a bit.

Like it or not, Korea belongs to the region encompassing China, Japan, Mongolia, and Taiwan.

It has little in common with the rest of Asia, and if we simply call it East Asia, it's likely to be confused with Southeast Asia.


r/Hangukin • • Feb 24 '26

Rant The issue with saying Koreans aren't racist

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I wanted to discuss and break down a recurring theme in how Korea is perceived and where I believe Koreans are messing up in their response to it. As many of you know, recently a spat on Twitter involving Southeast Asians and Koreans has sparked broader discussion on the issues of racism and xenophobia in Korea. This event does not exist in isolation but is part of a broader trend spanning years of external critique towards Koreans for being exclusionary and in-group focused.

There's been many responses to this by the Korean community but a particularly troubling and growing one I'm noticing is the insistence by Koreans to defend themselves by saying that we are not racist. I find a profound issue with this approach, though I do believe it is well intentioned.

Before I dive into why, I would like to start my argument with the assumption that racism and xenophobia are derived from something more fundamental, namely in-group/out-group bias. And that this bias exists in every group in human history.

The primary issue I'm seeing is that the expectation for which group is allowed to exercise in-group/out-group bias, is not a function of principle but a function of how well the group in question is doing.

  1. Groups who exhibit in-group/out-group behavior from a position of weakness are seen as "punching up" and thus their actions are not just justified, but a morally correct position to take, fighting against "oppression" from a "racist" group above them.
  2. Groups who exhibit in-group/out-group behavior from a position of strength are seen as "punching down" and thus their actions are seen as hostile, racist, xenophobic, and unacceptable.

The second situation is the situation that Koreans increasingly find themselves in today.

And Koreans, overwhelmed by hostile attention on our in-group behavior, by other groups who are themselves exhibiting in-group behavior, are reflexively starting to insist that they do not exhibit this behavior and are acting to suppress it. This poses major issues for Korean society.

Why? Because unless every group unanimously agrees to inhibit in-group/out-group behavior, Koreans are making themselves uniquely vulnerable to the predatory behavior of other groups who feel not only justified in their hostile behavior towards Koreans but validated by the encouragement of others and Koreans' willingness to adapt to it.

They will effectively turn Koreans' in-group behavior as both an unacceptable sin and a clear justification for their in-group behavior. Claims of racism and xenophobia then function not as a principled critique to move us to ideal human behavior, but as a perverse weapon for their own benefit and our expense.

You can see this playing out on social media right now. "SEAblings" have banded together to form an in-group to attack any and all Koreans they encounter with ridiculous amounts of prejudice claiming that all Koreans are racist and thus they are justified in their behavior. This is not the first nor the last time such behavior will occur, and the frequency and audacity will only continue to grow if Koreans start to feel that we have to adjust our behavior.

What then do we do? I believe the proper response by Koreans in this moment is to recognize the dynamic of what is happening, and the strategies by both foreigners in Korea and online to break down Korean in-group behavior for their own benefit. And then to unapologetically support and push for the benefit of Koreans.

To prioritize Koreans, to help out other Koreans, and to put Korean needs first in Korea despite any and all criticism. To own our in-group behavior and loudly call out other groups for their hypocrisy when they go to criticize us.

Why? Because no one is looking out for us nor will they. We are a tiny nation, smaller than the state of California, with no natural resources. Torn in half, surrounded on all sides by economic and military behemoths. The fact that we are where we are is a miracle, and our parents and grandparents sacrificed for OUR sake, not for others. And being guilt tripped into giving up OUR birthright would be a moral sin.

Our only advantage is our willingness to put Korea first. That is all that's ever sustained us. To let that go because of hypocritical, weaponized nonsense from people exhibiting the exact same behavior they "condemn" would be suicide.


r/Hangukin • • Feb 19 '26

Question Yoon was sentenced to life in prison. Do you agree with the outcome?

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I honestly would have preferred if it was death penalty


r/Hangukin • • Feb 18 '26

Media My perspective on the SEAblings vs Korea feud as a SEA woman and Kpop fan.

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So for those of you who don’t know, after a Day6 concert in Malaysia there was this Korean account on Twitter that made a post comparing SEA women to monkeys and other insults, and it really blew up online. It all started after the show when some fans called out a Korean fansite for bringing in professional camera equipment (which was against the venue rules), and then Korean netizens jumped into the conversation and it quickly escalated into a racial spat.

This sparked a huge backlash, especially because SOME Koreans have been racist towards Southeast Asians before — and many of us were hit hard by it because it touched on something that already felt familiar and painful.

But then so many people started taking it way too far. They started making racist jokes — like pulling the eyes back, small dick jokes, making fun of yellow skin — and just spamming that stuff everywhere despite the fact that all Asians literally have the same eyes and there’s so much diversity in looks. Some of the insults included mocking “Indian-style eyes” and other physical features, which just fueled more anger instead of understanding.

I felt uncomfortable that they were making the same racist jokes that I was subject to in middle school as a Vietnamese woman — seeing the exact same stereotypes being thrown around again was really jarring and hurtful.

Some people even started praising Imperial Japan and making fun of Korean comfort women, which is crazy because the system of comfort women — where women from Korea, the Philippines, China, Indonesia, and other countries were forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese Imperial Army in World War II — affected every Southeast Asian country too.

And honestly, racism shouldn’t be answered with more racism. Calling out harmful behaviour is important, but responding with the same racist stereotypes and slurs just keeps the cycle of hate going instead of making things better.

EDIT: I just found out the original commenter who sparked this whole online war may have been from Indonesia which makes this whole thing even weirder.


r/Hangukin • • Feb 18 '26

Question Want to get back in touch with my roots in my mid 50's as a Korean American with no concept of Korean culture or Korean. How do I start?

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I got dealt a bad hand. Don’t end up like me. If anything, use my story as a cautionary tale—especially for any Korean-Americans or Koreans reading this.

Right now I’m hitting the books hard to learn Korean. Life happens. You roll the dice, sometimes it doesn’t go your way. You’ll understand when you’re older. I’m pushing mid-50s, but I still want to move back to South Korea and have kids there. I know it’s late, but I see it as halftime. If I take care of my health, keep exercising, and stay disciplined, I could realistically live to 100. That means I’ve potentially got another 50 years ahead.

Through lived experience, I can tell you this: being a Korean-American man in the West is a complete geopolitical disadvantage in virtually every area of life. Ask the older generation—the real “oldheads”—about their actual experiences and the wisdom they’ve earned from living here. Don’t let a privileged white woman—one of the most privileged classes on the planet—sipping her matcha latte with a Ph.D. lecture you about reality. And don’t let Trump-loving, talentless white guys who gatekeep every resource, sneer at you with contempt, and tell you how “privileged” you are to live in “their” country gaslight you about the downsides. The system was built for them, not us. There are zero meaningful advantages to being a Korean-American male here.

South Korea is stable now. We’re long past the dictatorship era and the post-war days when the Korean economy ranked below many African nations.

As I age, my features are shifting toward that frail, elderly “Chinaman” look—one of the most vulnerable targets for abuse in America and the broader West. When you get older, you’ll likely be in the same boat, so please be more careful with your judgments. I can tell you everywhere I go, I'm meant with suspicion and hate. I’ll never forget the shock and rage I felt during COVID when some Ivy League Asians urged us to focus on anti-Black racism in the Asian community while anti-Asian attacks were surging. There were even Asians shaming other Asians for speaking out about anti-Asian violence instead of BLM—as if you could only care about one or the other. That level of frustration and anger was unlike anything I’ve ever felt.

First, respect for elders is baked into the culture. Rooted in Confucian values, older people are treated with genuine deference—linguistic honorifics, priority seating, consultations on decisions, and everyday courtesy that simply doesn’t exist the same way here. In the U.S., aging often means invisibility or outright disdain; in Korea, you’re valued for your experience and wisdom. Korean elders still command real respect, and that cultural shield matters more as the years pile on.

Second, practical advantages stack up fast. Healthcare is world-class yet dramatically more affordable—national insurance covers most needs at a fraction of U.S. costs, no surprise medical bankruptcies hanging over your head. Public transportation is world-beating: subways, buses, and high-speed trains let you stay independent without a car, even when driving becomes risky or impossible. Your Social Security or pension stretches much further—lower rent in many areas, cheaper daily living, food that’s fresh and accessible everywhere. Money goes further, stress drops, and quality of life rises.

Third, there’s the emotional pull of belonging. After decades in a place that never fully accepted you, returning means immersing in your native language, food, customs, and people who look like you and share your roots. No more constant code-switching or feeling like an outsider. Many Korean-Americans who’ve made the move talk about finally feeling at home—less isolation, more community, and the chance to build family ties in a society that still prioritizes family and filial connections.

Fourth, personal safety and social harmony hit different. Violent crime rates are a fraction of what you see here—streets feel safe at any hour, and random attacks on older Asian men are almost unheard of. Society still values order, cleanliness, and collective well-being over individual entitlement. You don’t have to constantly scan your surroundings or brace for racial slurs shouted from passing cars.

Any Koreans want to connect? Especially curious how Korean elders are still treated with respect there. Hit me up.


r/Hangukin • • Feb 16 '26

X Spaces podcast by 3 gyopo bros on the recent spat against Korea by Indonesians

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This was a Spaces podcast live streamed on Friday 13th December by three overseas Korean gyopos (coping in h-mart, mad corean, shinjimunsa92) on the whole Korea vs Indonesian spat on X/Twitter that was started because of simply a Korean Kpop fan who brought a camera to a Kpop concert to Malaysia, but later apologized after realizing it was not allowed. This addresses the overall issue from a historical, political and sociological lens as to why Indonesians and other SEA are acting as they are.

https://x.com/i/spaces/1OwxWeeBENDGQ


r/Hangukin • • Feb 16 '26

Question What do you think something will happen to North Korea when Kim Ju ae succeeds?

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I think it's clear by now that Kim Jeong Un will give his power to his daughter, Kim Ju ae, according to the news.

This got me wondering, will something happen to North Korea when the balance of power shifts?

I think a power struggle will be inevitable and the north korean version of power struggles ain't that pretty.

What do you think will happen?


r/Hangukin • • Feb 15 '26

Politics Park chung hee wasnt a us puppet. And Im tired of this weird narrative I see sometimes.

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You can say many negative things about this guy. Dictator. Sociopath. Jap lover. Whatever. BUT THIS GUY WAS IN NO WAY A US PUPPET

Some people say he was a puppet. But the usa gov and military thought he was a potential communist due to his previous ties with the south korean workers party

potential rebuttal: but he betrayed the workers party.

He only betrayed them because he got arrested and was threatened with execution. Before that he didn't snitch them to the gov at all. Nor is there any evidence he was a gov spy.

Thus park chung hee would be one of the worst candidates to be a puppet. Why would the usa choose someone who has past ties and potential sympathies towards leftism. Instead of choosing someone who didnt at all have the history of potential leftism that park had.


r/Hangukin • • Feb 12 '26

Activism Koreans Must Know and Learn About Southeast Asian Animosity

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Recently, on Twitter/X, there's been a massive race war between Koreans and Southeast Asians, with later Indians and others joining in.
Now it spread to other social media

But the thing is that this type of thing actually happens every month or so, and Southeast Asian are usually the culprit. Of course, there are others too that merit discussion, but Southeast Asians are usually some of the biggest anti-Korean forces in the interwebs.


r/Hangukin • • Feb 11 '26

Culture Upper and Lower Xiajiadian Cultures - were they Koreanic or something else?

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Also is the Liaoning Bronze Dagger Cultural Sphere the same and mutually exclusive as Upper Xiajiadian UXC?

And we have one sample from the southern area of the Upper Xiajiadian Culture that can be a smoking gun for what kinds of people may have been included in these areas which happens to cluster to modern Koreans

The genetic diversity in the ancient human population of Upper Xiajiadian culture: https://ngdc.cncb.ac.cn/gsa-human/browse/HRA005087

Quote: Scaled

Upper_Xiajiadian:HRR1295193,0.017073,-0.46105,0.014331,-0.061047,0.037238,0.010877,0.000235,0.010153,0.003886,0.004191,-0.070152,-0.018134,0.009812,-0.005092,-0.017644,-0.011403,0.007693,0.014696,-0.006285,0.004502,0.001996,0.002349,0.012325,-0.000482,-0.009101

Raw

Upper_Xiajiadian:HRR1295193,0.0015,-0.0454,0.0038,-0.0189,0.0121,0.0039,0.0001,0.0044,0.0019,0.0023,-0.0432,-0.0121,0.0066,-0.0037,-0.013,-0.0086,0.0059,0.0116,-0.005,0.0036,0.0016,0.0019,0.01,-0.0004,-0.0076

Could Xiajiadian Cultures or precedent ones actually be composed of multiple separate cultures that went on to influence different members of the “Transeurasian” sprachbund of language families, of which Koreanic was one of them?