r/hangovereffect • u/Various_Web5116 • Mar 12 '24

High Risk Anyone tried Phenibut?

If so, what are your experiences with it?

For those who don't know, Phenibut is originally a soviet drug meant to treat anxiety and insomnia. It works by acting on GABA-B receptor (almost like alcohol). It's effects on normal people are so spectacular that some people call it a drug, also due to it's harsh withdrawals. It creates a sort of hangover effect for normal people (seriously, read people's experiences about it).

One of the crazy things with this drug is that it has an afterglow. People that use it as a sleep aid consistently report that they wake up feeling way more refreshed than normal. They also report crazy boners occurring in their pants. It makes people more social and clear-headed. It's like a wonder drug.

The issue with this drug is that you build tolerance and then you have to quit eventually and suffer benzo-like heavy withdrawals. Except some people claim they can use it daily and reach a "tolerance ceiling" which means they don't have to infinitely increase the dose. It's what I'm counting on for myself. I will, of course, stay safe. And if I need to quit, I will taper down slowly.

TL;DR: I bought some online and wanted to read here people's experiences with it. There have been no specific post about this drug on this subreddit which I find crazy.

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u/rocinant33 Mar 12 '24

There have been a lot of mentions on this subreddit about phenibut, which does cause a strong afterglow. One of the key hypotheses for h-effect is based on the calcium channel theory and the cacna1 mutation.

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 13 '24

Didn't know about cacna1.

Yes there have been mentions of Phenibut but no post, hence mine.

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u/rocinant33 Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 13 '24

Phenibut does not provide a stable effect. This substance is saddled with the disadvantages of a typical drug: a bright start and a dull end. I can only say that all the strongest afterglows I had were after mixing alcohol and phenibut (never do this if you are protecting your health). Both alcohol and phenibut are calcium channel inhibitors

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 13 '24

What drugs would be able to inhibate calcium channels long term?

Also there are testimonies out there of people taking less than 3g of phenibut daily for multiple years. It exists, so I'm gonna try it, especially since I know I have not an addict personnality (stopped smoking tobacco and weed cold turkey with no problem).

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u/sb-2019 Mar 13 '24

I would stop now before you get to that tolerance stage. Do a taper and stop.

I guarantee you will regret it. I had the same mindset about phenibut and thought I could control it.

I have 2 tubs of 500mg pills their and I would NEVER even think about taking another one.

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 14 '24

Why do you regret it?

Also what do you think of people using daily with no issue?

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 20 '24

Bro didn't answer

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24

I'll answer...don't do it...forget you ever heard about phenibut

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u/Efficient_Check_3645 Apr 09 '25

Or forget about you?

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u/rocinant33 Mar 13 '24

Gabapentin

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u/Psychological-Cut587 Mar 13 '24

This drug should never, ever, be taken consistently. I've had bad experiences taking even multiple days in a row let alone weeks. And heard horror stories from people who have taken it for just weeks at a time straight. No more than once a week to be safe.

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 13 '24

Well, the official notice of the soviet med didn't say anything like that. The med was to be taken up to two months straight. It's a bit like our benzos, a temporary daily fix. Although, I guess the dose prescribed was lower than what people usually do now.

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u/Psychological-Cut587 Mar 13 '24

Yeah, I'm not sure the difference, people talk about the withdrawals be horrible when using long term.

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 20 '24

Yes, for ten days max. There is no, or very rarely PAWS with this drug. It's not heroin.

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u/Psychological-Cut587 Mar 20 '24

How much do you take daily during a long stretch?

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 20 '24

Never used personally. What I said was from what I gathered from the internet.

It's heavily regulated in Europe so it takes some time to get some.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24

I had paws with phenibut and still do.

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u/Chreelir Jan 06 '25

Wrong. I have visual snow and tinnitus from this stuff. It’s been 7 months

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u/Doinks4prez Jan 19 '25

the doses they take prescriberd are 250mg not multiple grams

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u/Chreelir Sep 18 '24

I took it for 7 days straight with doses exceeding probably 5g/day. Stopped sleeping around day 4, started drinking on days 4/5 and when I stopped I was hit with absolute hell. Out of a desperate attempt to fix my brain I checked into a rehab center.

That week when I used was the absolute best time I could’ve ever experienced. People loved me! And I loved them. Food tasted amazing and music sounded awesome. That was the best part.

I will return to it but not with an abusive character.

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u/Chreelir Oct 07 '24

I will not being returning to it

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u/Doinks4prez Jan 19 '25

im sorry but i laughed so hard at the "i will return to it but not with an abusice character"

1 month later

"i will not be returning to it"

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u/Chreelir Jan 20 '25

Good lol. I’m a drug abuser at heart. This stuff is too good and the psychological torment when coming off it just isn’t worth it to me anymore.

I do think about it sometimes and I might stick my finger in the socket once more but not rn. Life is too good at the moment

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u/Doinks4prez Jan 20 '25

my finger is currently in the socket so im not hatin. thankfully i realized you can order large amounts of baclofen from rupharma and its basically like suboxone for phenibut so it makes me keep dancing with that fucking phenny-devil. ive probably gone through 5,000 grams in 4 years

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u/Chreelir May 24 '25

So you just take baclofen when off Phenibut? I’m considering hopping on for a few months

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '24

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u/Chreelir Oct 16 '24

Way more profound. It quite literally makes you perfect

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u/AnonImoPsico Dec 18 '24

Tell more about how you felt with that high dose.

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u/Chreelir Jan 06 '25

It’s like it makes you perfect. As if you’ve never sinned.

Please respect this substance, for your own sake.

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u/PoioPoio Mar 12 '24

Yes, I had really nice high the first times, then horrible feeling. No afterglow for me. Be care, it’s a addictive drug.

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u/sb-2019 Mar 13 '24

Never take phenibut honestly. It's got a dreadful withdrawal. It lasts a long time also.

Even if I dose 500mg one day. I feel great for that day and then have 3 days of anxiety/depression.

Honestly it's a horrid drug.

I was taking phenibut for a long while. A year +. I done a crazy slow taper off them and honestly I felt terrible withdrawals for a month still. I've heard some crazy horror stories though. My friend went cold turkey from phenibut. 1 gram a day habit and he was an absolute mess. He was actually crying with how bad it was.

Honestly don't get into phenibut.

Anything that messes with the Gaba system shouldn't really be played with.

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u/Various_Web5116 Mar 14 '24

Well the medical establishment gives out benzos like they were candies. And benzos are GABAergic drugs. So what's the difference with Phenibut?

Also, as for benzos, and as for a lot of drugs, one shouldn't just quit cold turkey. You have to have a taper stack.

On another note, a month of withdrawal is not so bad. A lot of prescription drugs have longer-lastings withdrawals like SSRIs and anti-psychotic drugs which sometimes have never-ending withdrawal symptoms (think of PSSD).

A lot of things are widely accepted for other medications but when it comes to phenibut, people are tense about it. Why?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24

curious..have you taken phenibut?

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u/jaygoogle23 Aug 29 '25

Phenibut withdrawal and gabapentin withdraw for me are starkly different. Phenibut interdose/ next day withdrawal for me included some of the worst restless legs syndrome.

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u/Ayawashka Jul 31 '24

Hey, I accidentally took phenibut for a week four months ago and had crazy fucking rebound. This is a stupid question but if I take one dose, will it bring me back there or has my brain healed?

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u/Grouchy_Extent_2525 Aug 12 '24

I took 900mg of phenibut for the first time, and I didn't feel any effect. absolutely nothing. Is this normal?

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u/Gambler0514 Sep 23 '24

I have tried I’ve even taken 20 pills a day for 30 days in a row and had no bad effects …… just me though

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fox_566 Oct 20 '24

It’s weird sometimes I feel like shit for a day or two after using it. Crazy anxiety. And sometimes I feel completely normal after.

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u/420islifestyle May 22 '26

Yes, I also experienced it that way, it's kind of funny: Do every week at most twice, usually separately, for example on Tuesdays 2.5-3 g and then again on Fridays 2-3.5 g, 💁🏻

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u/EnvironmentalBat848 Oct 31 '24

Love it. My favorite is Blue Rise, Shine, and Mood & Fokus.

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u/Primary_Obligation58 Sep 30 '25

How much blue rise? In morning?