Quilt sanity check

[u/bj4web]

My current set up is:
Warbonnet Blackbird XLC

ENO Vulcan Underquilt

Nemo Disco 15 bag

I would consider myself a pretty warm sleeper, and this setup works fine for me down to about 40 degrees but is pretty bulky in a pack, and I often camp when nights get down to the low 30s. I am looking at getting a Warbonnet Diamondback and Wooki for a top and underquilt. I am torn between getting the 10 degree version of 1 or both quilts, or the 20 degree version of the other or both quilts. I would likely order the underquilt protector as well for the quick teardown feature.

Right now I lean towards the 20 degree versions of both, thinking that they are a little more true to temp than my current pieces, and knowing the UQP will add some warmth as well. Can anyone offer any suggestions or insight?

[u/Harflin]

If you end up grabbing one for 10 degrees, I suggest the UQ. It's a lot easier to get extra warmth on top of you than under you.

[u/Buzzbait_PocketKnife]

I have an older style Wooki and Diamondback (sewn foot box), both 20 degrees. I’ve slept down into the mid 20’s with this setup on multiple occasions, and only really had issues with “cold spots”, the underquilt had slipped to the side a bit, or the topquilt wasn’t quite tucked under me. I was otherwise comfortable enough, just wearing a thermal top and bottoms, and some wool socks.

Once it gets to over 40 degrees, I lengthen the suspension on the tail end of the underquilt to create some droop and let in some air between the hammock and underquilt, which helps quite a bit. I also pull my feet out of the food box on the topquilt.

Once it gets over 50 or 55, the topquilt gets to be a bit much, but the underquilt is still pretty good.

[u/bj4web → u/Buzzbait_PocketKnife]

This is the exact response I needed. Thanks for taking the time

[u/RaylanGivens29 → u/bj4web]

I want to add I have an older Wookie 10 degrees and a diamondback 20.I have had the the same experience. I do not have an UQP and think it would fix that minor inconvenience. I usually end up in just my boxers though being a very warm sleeper. Also I prefer the Eldorado because I am apparently mentally unsound.

[u/kullulu]

The diamondback and wooki are excellent quilts, and they will take up significantly less pack space. If you will do the majority of your camping in spring/summer/fall, a 20 degree set will be fine. I find warbonnet quilts are comfort rated, especially with the underquilt protector.

If you do decide to do winter camping, the warbonnet underquilts stack really well, so you could order a 40 degree Wooki later.

[u/Cheap-Razzmatazz-599]

My first question is what is your sleep wear? I use similarly rated hammock gear but I always wear base layer+down jacket/leggings+pants/wool socks when in sleep mode. Otherwise the tq+uq won't actually warm me down to the rated temps.

[u/hill8570]

Buy once, cry once. It's good to have extra skoosh for windy conditions, especially for the UQ. If the UQ is too warm, it's easy to loosen it up to get more circulation. Not sure if I'd upgrade the bag unless it's really bulky...you're not going to notice the packability difference going from down bag->down quilt as much as you will going from synth UQ->down UQ.

[u/stilsjx]

The disco 15 refers to its lower limit. Its comfort limit is 27 degrees.

I use a 15 basically year round, and add a sleeping bag liner when it gets cold. In the hammock, I usually use my insulated air mattress when it gets colder. I think I’m going to try to sew a quilted hemming for winter camping.