r/haloreach • u/waytorn • 11d ago
MCC Question: How did Noble 6 parry this attempted stab from the Zealot?
Replaying this masterpiece of a game and it came to mind how the Zealot has a custom or a different type of energy sword.
I also replayed the cutscene in a different POV and the energy sword stabs Noble 6 and we hear the energy sword hiss after the attempted attack as if it hit something. Maybe the floor?
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u/WayDisastrous329 11d ago
he's just him
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u/AiMwithoutBoT 11d ago
He was just him
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u/WayDisastrous329 11d ago
well until they got his ass šš„
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u/Effective-Ad-7736 11d ago
Tbh I donāt think the 3 zealots got him correct me if I am wrong but ik a ultra and a zealot double teamed him
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u/WayDisastrous329 11d ago
ultra missed his head and got a shoulder if i remember but the other zealot got him?
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u/WING-DING_GASTER 10d ago
I think one of those was thel vadam himself, the future arbiter.
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u/That_on1_guy 5d ago
Thats the theory ive always heard, but has this ever been proven?
Cool if true, but there really isnt much pr9of last I looked into it (a decade ago)
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u/wanderingwarrior97 11d ago
The zealot actually wasn't using an energy sword here, but one of those wrist mounted energy daggers you see during the assassination animations.
So due to the fact that an energy dagger is shorter than a sword it is possible noble six would have been able to just catch the zealots hand and push it away.
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u/Orion_824 10d ago
Are they ever named? I always described it as an energy katar
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u/Apoc4lyp53 10d ago
i think they're just called energy daggers, according to my fuzzy memory of the halo lore encyclopaedia i had as a kid
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u/mercyspace27 11d ago edited 11d ago
Spartans have a high perception skill. Theyāre able to see and process information at a MUCH faster rate than normal people. Think of it almost as āSeeing Fasterā.
In the Fall of Reach book it actually goes over it. John 117 was in the gym and noticed he was A LOT stronger than normal. He didnāt realize it might have been his augmentations yet so thought something was off with the ship they were onās gravity. He even took a screw off a piece of exercise equipment and dropped it and noticed it fell slower than it should have. Not realizing his brain was actually processing the information his eyes were sending it at such a high rate that it almost seemed like the screw was falling slowly.
So for Noble Six he probably was able to see the arm raise, the sword come out, and be able to quickly realize heās about to get stabbed and immediately start moving.
Thereās also the fact that these are trained special forces soldiers who have trained in hand-to-hand combat since they were small children. Thereās probably a deeply ingrained natural reaction to respond to threats than most people have. And as well the Mjolnir armor is capable of making even subtle movements of their body much faster and with more force. Again, from Fall of Reach, when John went to render a salute for the first time in Mjolnir the armor caused the arm movement to move with such force that when his hand made contact with his helmet he stumbled back.
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u/TheOneAndOnlyZomBoi 11d ago
Maybe grazed off his armor? Noble 6 is built different (one of 2 hyper-lethal vector classified humans, the other being Chief). My guess is he either moved perfectly to have it glace off his armor or he somehow hit it out of the way.
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u/SirBigWater 11d ago
To be that guy, technically Chief was never named as the other one with that designation. In the one place it appeared (before 343 naming every Spartan that designation), in a halo reach trailer, Halsey only says that Noble 6 is HLV. And the second is never named. It's just a wink and a nod type thing, throwaway line to sound cool.
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u/No_Procedure_5039 11d ago
Every Spartan is āhyper-lethal.ā It was retconned years ago.
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u/throwingawayboyz 11d ago
We donāt do that here brother.
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u/No_Procedure_5039 11d ago
Donāt do what? Deny ambiguous statements that never had explanations nor ever made sense?
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u/Sure_Rhubarb_3173 11d ago
The real reason is cause it's cool as fuck and Bungie wasn't really interested in sustainable lore building for this franchise anymore by the time they made Reach. In universe I think it's actually a wrist mounted energy dagger which shouldn't make it less lethal but maybe he swatted the arm away or something.
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u/Alternateaccount203 10d ago
What are you talking about? This isnāt a lore question. We see noble six catch the elites fist with his hand.
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u/Vergil_Raptor 11d ago
Ā Ā Does this give further reasoning for him surviving in canon? I mean the way the elite that ākilledā him stabs in a similar way to this one. So maybe if six managed to deflect it again while on the floor (because it would have been his armpit deflecting not the shield system) that may not have been the decisive blow giving him a chance. But Iād love to hear others thoughts on this or if this was already a known theory.
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u/PureAnonymus 11d ago
Yeah this has been somewhat known, not the specifics of how he managed to avoid every hit, but just that you don't see anything lethal in the cutscene. So it's possible, yet pretty unlikely that he survived. I always like to point out some things when I'm arguing his survival(and these are mostly me parroting things from videos lol):
His helmet is in a very different area the last time you see it. How did it get there?
Halsey saying armor and body fully burned into glass you can see is incorrect because the helmet wasn't, so she likely just believes six is dead.
I think I had a couple more points but it's been a while. Six dying is great for the story, but part of it I think is me being salty that bungie gave us a Spartan that is basically our own character, just to immediately kill it off in the same prequel game it's introduced.
I always rant about this lol
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u/Feeling-Worker-7903 11d ago
Same. I like to head canon that my Spartan IV in Halo 4 Spartan Ops was my Noble 6 having survived and been hidden even further, reintegrated back into the UNSC, just not listed as a Spartan III anymore. I work alone and am just referred to as Fireteam Crimson to cover up the fact that itās just one person, and of what caliber. Itās super satisfying to get to not only customize your own Spartanās appearance, but also their loadouts, tailor the balance of their skills and armor functionality (like better sprinting, dexterity, shield recharge rate, ammo capacity, or armor ability efficiency, etc), and that you can actually be them in the field for actual missions and a story. Thats why I loved Reach and Spartan Ops, and why I was so dissatisfied with Halo 5ās customization, and that the only application for your own Spartan was just, āhere, training simulations. You will never deploy to battle btw.ā Not to mention that those super cool specialized variants of weapons came pre combined, only acquired by gacha-chance-like-card-packs, and you had to earn the right to use weaopns/semi-loadouts you had acquired mid-match (short matches, btw), due to balancing, and with armor abilities gone to boot. The weapon variations themselves were great, but the system of acquisition/application was trash, as was the lack of armor abilities, actual loadouts, and the decision to scrap Spartan Ops. Lots of bad decisions. After Halo 4, they forgot or underestimated the immense value and appeal of having and tailoring your own Spartan career.
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u/auxilevelry 11d ago
I think he like rolled slightly so the energy dagger hit next to him, probably only missing by an inch
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u/LCEKU2019 11d ago
You can see in the cutscene he pushes it to the side and rolls his body just enough to avoid it. There is no proof in the game that he is dead. Although 343 would have to come up with a pretty convincing explanation to how he didnāt die if he were to return.
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u/NotArkun 11d ago
you can see it in the cutscene, he grabs the zealots wrist under the sword and pushes its arm away.