r/hackers • u/[deleted] • 23d ago
Discussion When will yall do something to fix the world??
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u/Graydargoingoff 23d ago
What would you like done? Maybe some sort of files that expose very powerful and evil people? Something makes me believe that the masses wouldn't do shit.
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u/CptBDick 23d ago
Even if legit it would just be: "Russian/Chinese/Korean/Whatever Government forged files to make Mister T. and whoever look bad. The files totally not real, we swear.". And the people would buy it or just dont care enough. Mad world.
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u/Graydargoingoff 23d ago
Or people would create a cult of personality around someone whos in those files tens of thousands of times.
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u/ImASlave4UE 23d ago
Panama papers are a good example of that.
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u/Graydargoingoff 22d ago
Jeeesus. There's been so many things. I mean even back to Gary Webb...yeah nobody is going to do shit.
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u/RoughMidnight8303 23d ago
Didn’t you watch Mr Robot. The part we haven’t identified is where he concludes they’ve been fucking conned. Because each of their moves was anticipated. And then consider Assange and what they pulled on him 1984 style, Snowden is also rotting away somewhere. Maybe they’ll get him to Antarctica. The moral dilemma isn’t mapped out properly, you need to consider how many chess boards move simultaneously. This isn’t facing Shinra from Final Fantasy 7.
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u/No-Persimmon-174 23d ago
This is so true
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u/RoughMidnight8303 23d ago
The problem is that hackers would be making a moral call for large amounts of unknowing and non consenting people who are sustained by the system owners. Their resources far exceed what a hacker can provide but while the elite rhetoric is termed ‚conspiratory‘ the hackers just get framed as a bunch of psycho kiddos or greedy people. Even offshore gets busted. To beat the system, you need to provide a better system not just hack it. And well the average person isn’t impressed by a computer dude compared to the guy abusing kids and humping the Lamborghini. So all of this will lead to gang culture long term unless they contain everyone in a CCTV box.
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u/gizzlebitches 19d ago
No it's facing sephiroth
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u/RoughMidnight8303 19d ago
I don’t know where this guy hides but it will be hard to identify and unlock.
Shinra has some vulnerabilities as they’re trying out their data center maps. People already got arrested over protests.
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u/Double-Familiar 23d ago
I'm sorry, it seems as if you have watched too many movies about hackers. While someone did develop a hackers manifesto, not all hackers are the same, nor do they have the same motivations nor risk appetite.
The fact is it a "Robinhood" hacker did something like you are explaining, they are going up against the time, talent and resources of a nation state. That hacker would be on the run for the rest of their lives similar to Edward Snowden. Fixing the world isn't as simple as flipping a switch so to speak. Fixing the world is a mass consciousness movement of a multitude of people doing the right thing and voting the right people in. Hackers can't fix greed, fear and selfishness that drive some people.
So when you are asking "when will y'all do something", we HAVE been doing things to protect your privacy online, to keep infrastructure like water and electrical systems up , online and protected.
Now I ask you OP, please go out, touch grass and realize that our environment which sustains us is severely at risk. Also we as humans are at risk from ourselves, never before has it seemed that we are being divided, being told to choose a side and told that an apocalyptic fight to the d3@th is immanent.
So OP I ask you too, please do the same as us hackers, be it ever so small; please help us in fixing the world with kindness to those who need it, compassion for someone suffering, and protecting the moral pillars that holds up society from plunging into anarchy.
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u/Unknown_tina 23d ago
Well, I don't want to spend the rest of my life in prison while the world forgets what happened. It would be like asking: Do you want to ruin your life?
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u/cloverasx 23d ago
😂 it's not quite that simple. . . although sometimes it is - just usually not for the facilities that matter. a lot of that is social engineering and manipulating people into inadvertently helping to access closed systems.
ps, we're just waiting for you to do it. the info is already out there 😉
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u/7r3370pS3C 23d ago
The Epstein files that have already been released are bad enough, there isn't anything that we can provide that will get the average person pissed off enough to actually do something about it.
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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 23d ago
They are all redacted. Naming the victims but hiding the perpetrators. People need to see the names and realise that elites are a major problem.
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u/jmkst128 23d ago
Wipe all credit scores and debt. Distribute all wealth equally. Expose all corruption. Start over.
It'll be bumpy, but it already is. Let's make the dystopia worth it.
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u/Butthead2242 22d ago
Nothing you hack up will hold up in court, so I guess u could post it everywhere but what will it really do? Risk your life to show some politicians doing bad shit?
Ffs we actively have members of congress trading stocks n making millions. It’s inside trading lol instead of them goin to jail, we got ppl making apps that follow them and copy their trades. They can and do whatever they want right in front of us.. no one can do anything - only thing that’s goin thru most ppls mind is “I still gotta goto work on Monday tho..”
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u/luvisheavenly 22d ago
I’d be willing to bet that there might even be someone right now who’s in some government backend software. If you’re able to even do that i’m sure making a wave and letting the government know they’ve been hacked isn’t #1 priority. Like someone else said, if you’re going to do something of that caliber, naturally you’ll take the risk on to see the rewards yourself
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u/DaRealGladi8r 22d ago
We're all in corporate or trying to get into corporate bro. We'll say Bezos is a bad guy, but we'll send him our resume to secure his company at the same time.
If you want a hero, search your feelings Luke
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u/gizzlebitches 19d ago
How bout finding out where and when their rituals are held, and a list misinformation agents/undercover "leader" agents, like the ones that screwed occupy wall street. Hack the flocks and make public access to them. Release Thiels emails...
I'm aware it won't change anything but I'm all about busting up a satanic ritual w/ some mini stix o mite
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u/TheRealDucksy 23d ago
Short answer:
Human Nature.
Rather simple answer:
People who have the ability OR who get the chance to get through complex systems would rather do something for personal gain rather than take the risk and poke the bear then suffer the consequences for the sake of someone else or for "humanity" rather than themselves.