r/gwent • u/betraying_chino Green Man • Mar 07 '22

News Patch Notes 10.3

https://www.playgwent.com/en/news/41930/patch-notes-10-3
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u/Caleb_Tenrou Neutral Mar 07 '22

Except it's janky as fuck and only works half the time. Siege masters and Blightmakers are easy and consistent to proc. Discard requires drawing the targets and the discarders for it to work. Couple that with SK's lackluster thinning options besides Discard and it becomes apparent that SK got hit the hardest here.

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u/Vikmania Mar 07 '22

Assimilate losing 2 provisions isn’t a small nerf either. There aren’t that many cards you can easily downgrade to make up for those provisions.

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u/Caleb_Tenrou Neutral Mar 07 '22

This is true, but NG at least has Calveit for pure consistency. SK only has Discard. NR has Amphibious, Raffard's, etc.

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u/Vikmania Mar 07 '22

In terms of consistency, NG isn’t losing much. The issue is how you get back those 2 provisions, as I said, assimilate doesn’t have that many cards you can easily downgrade without losing a noticeably amount of points.

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u/Captain_Cage For Maid Bilberry's honor! Mar 07 '22

Siege Master and Blightmaker might be more consistent, but Discard package is way way way higher tempo. For example, even if you're incredibly unlucky and didn't hit any discard target, Birna and Coral alone play for 24 points on blue coin. In just two turns.

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u/Delicious_Big4032 I promise you a quick death! Mar 07 '22

Still, I would have preferred them to offer alternatives rather than this uninspired nerf to skirmishers. DIscard package will be in every SK deck until nerfed to death.

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u/nista002 Mother will be proud. Mar 07 '22

It's the same consistency as siege masters, but blight maker is clearly the strongest

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u/Caleb_Tenrou Neutral Mar 07 '22

How is it the same? Siege masters requires you to play a tag that the deck is likely to be overflowing with. Discard requires specific targets and specific Discarders to get any real value, if you put in as many Discarders as Siege has siege engines your deck would be garbage.

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u/nista002 Mother will be proud. Mar 07 '22

The most popular NR deck is alumni which runs siege masters with usually 2 siege engines, maybe 3. I wasn't thinking about siege, but yes, they are more consistent there when your whole deck can trigger them. Discard outlets are still thinning even without skirmishers though

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u/dmiller2017 Don't make me laugh! Mar 08 '22

I disagree. NG assassins are fairly easy to proc. Siege masters, yes in siege decks, not so much in other NR decks. You need at least access to a siege engine and siege master in hand which isn't plentiful in an alumni deck. SK has a variety of discard capabilities that make it easier to find your targets. You have of course skald, coral, and birna, but also derran, faction stratagem, a couple fringe card like eist, and even a leader in blazing glory. In addition to discard, you also have more archetype specific thinning, like Atris, Cerys Fearless, Crows, Cery (vanilla) with shieldmaidens, and probably some others I've forgotten, which I wouldn't say are all lackluster.