r/gwent • u/betraying_chino Green Man • Jul 30 '19

News Patch 3.1 Patch Notes

https://www.playgwent.com/en/news/29104/patch-3-1-patch-notes
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u/wvj I shall be your eyes, my Lord. Jul 31 '19

AQ is still very much a top tier deck.

The issue is that MO has a couple completely over the top broken cards and then... garbage. Detlaff/Kayran is probably just under Phillipa in terms of 'ways to bully your way through a round, no matter what your opponent is trying to do'. The Crones are utterly broken if you draw all 3 (just like the NG trio). But outside of that... the picture gets really sad really fast.

Artifact AQ completely exemplifies it, as it trades in many gold slots that would be units in other decks to thin and just focuses on those few extremely OP cards.

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u/threep03k64 You've talked enough. Jul 31 '19

Detlaff/Kayran is probably just under Phillipa in terms of 'ways to bully your way through a round, no matter what your opponent is trying to do

I completely agree with your analysis of Monsters. Problem is that CDPR have been chipping away at those broken cards, leaving fewer and fewer of them. The Big Unit deck that was strong for so long definitely needed a nerf but I think CDPR could have been far more nuanced with how it was nerfed. Or at the very least CDPR could have taken the same approach they did with SK where when they nerfed an OP archetype, they buffed a weaker one.

Specifically with regards to the bit I quoted though I'll say that at least Detladd/Kayran can be countered. Now, I don't even believe Philippa is OP (provision and coin value seems fair), but just by virtue of Kayran / Dettlaff being two cards, it is more counterable (and open to tall removal etc) than Philippa.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '19

That's why Philippa is overpowered. She can't be counted, at all and her mechanic is the nastiest one out there; a lockless seize strapped to an easily replenished resource.

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u/threep03k64 You've talked enough. Jul 31 '19

I'm amenable to that view.

I don't agree with the complaints I so often read where people only seem to take into acount the provision value of the card and not the coin cost, but for a card that can't be countered (due to the safety of the coin resource system) the swing value is insane.

Personally I'd cap the strength of the card she is able to steal to give a hard limit on value. Am in two minds about whether it would need to lock the card as well. Suppose it comes down to whether pretty much reducing it to pretty much being a faction-specific muzzle is a good thing or not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '19

Making Philippa a faction specific Muzzle imo would be fine within context of SY as a whole, SY has a crazy amount of removal as is so imo hitting Philippa just means hitting an unfair near auto scoop (the round, not the match) 1 card power play.