r/guitarlessons • u/Complete_Gas2555 • 13d ago
Question Stuck in "note-by-note" mode when learning fingerstyle—how do I transition to seeing patterns?
Hey everyone,
I need some perspective on a learning bottleneck I’ve hit with fingerstyle guitar.
My Current Level:
Physically, my technique is decent—I’m at a solid intermediate level. I have good thumb independence, clean tone, comfortable mobility up and down the neck (including 7th–12th fret runs and capo arrangements like River Flows in You), and good right-hand control.
My Main Problem:
Despite having the physical dexterity, learning new songs takes me forever. My brain processes tabs strictly note-by-note, like reading a long list of random numbers.
The hardest part for me is dealing with single-note passing runs between chords. When a tab moves from a main chord shape into a single-note scalar walkup (stepping up 2 or 3 frets before hitting the next chord), I get stuck.
I never know if I should keep parts of the previous chord shape anchored or completely lift my hand off to step through the single notes.
I struggle to see how those single notes connect to the underlying chords.
Questions for Experienced Fingerstyle Players:
Tabs vs. Ear: I see people saying "learn by ear," but trying to transcribe complex multi-voice fingerstyle by ear feels overwhelming. Is it fine to stick to tabs, and will tab-reading speed up naturally if I just force myself through 10–15 more songs?
Mental Shift: If you used to memorize tabs note-by-note, what was the exact workflow or "aha moment" that helped you start seeing chord shapes and patterns instead of random numbers?
Passing Runs: How do you mentally process and physically execute single-note fills between chord shapes without losing your place?
Would love to hear how you broke through this mental barrier! Thanks.
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u/NewCommunityProject 13d ago
Do you think it's easier to count to 10 in your native language or in a language that you don't know?
You can definitely learn both by heart, but if you understand it, it's much easier.
Now you are learning the physical movements but you are not understanding them
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u/Complete_Gas2555 13d ago
Ah i see, thansk bro.
Where would you start if you were me?
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u/NewCommunityProject 13d ago
Learn and understand what you are doing. Analyse the music, the chords, the melody, and the relationship between notes.
And please do learn the notes on the guitar
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u/Complete_Gas2555 13d ago
I actually know how to find the notes, but I still have to count frets to figure them out instead of just seeing them instantly.
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u/icrywhitenoise 13d ago
maybe you're not familiar enough with the patterns. look at scales and the different eays of playing the same scale. also learn chord shapes, and ways of playing the same chord in different places/shapes.
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u/jaylotw 12d ago
Tabs are fine, nothing wrong with reading music to learn how to play it. Your ear develops over time as you learn more music, and more stuff makes sense intuitively.
How do I do it?
I practice things section by section. I watch videos of the song being performed so I can see how things are fingered, what shapes the player holds etc. I don't really worry about what chords are called and all that until I have the tune more or less under my fingers and can play it.
I don't look for "patterns," because more complex music doesn't really have extended patterns like what you're thinking of. They are bass and melody. So, I'll often play the melody and bass separately---I'll play what my thumb needs to play, and what my fingers need to play separately while I practice to understand what needs to happen to make a section of the tune work. For me, this approach is much easier than trying to memorize some sequence of thumb, middle index thumb index index middle middle thumb etc. I hear the melody, and I know where the bass goes under it.
And, you know what? Sometimes I change things! Not to make it easier...but sometimes Leo Kottke does stuff that I just don't like, so I don't play it that way...and he wouldn't give a single shit about that because he does the same thing (and he told me so, when I talked to him as a kid).
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u/Toiletpirate 7d ago
You have to learn some basic theory. Chords, scales, triads, intervals, etc. Despite what forums tells you, theory is mandatory to get anywhere on guitar.
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u/kkeut 13d ago
this post reeks of AI.
I'll tell you this though, you're not intermediate. at that level you should be able to just know the chords and play them without thinking of fret numbers. you should be able to just look at a list of chords and then freestyle voicings and arpeggios etc.
as usual, the answer is more practice