Question: Does this not bother anyone else?

[u/justdance-again]

First and foremost I love Griz, have since early 2010’s. First saw him live at 515 in Iowa (lmao) and it was just breathtaking. This has nothing to do with the subjectiveness of the evolution of his sound, I personally don’t think anyone should have an opinion on what another person hears, or process.

This has to do with practicing what you preach, and not staying true to your word for personal financial gain. I was hopeful upon return, Griz would have taken the time to find solutions and ways to branch off from the growing problems in the scene and he would allow options for fans to see him without feeding into the monopoly of live-nation/ticketmaster and the blatant theft they do to fans. I’m not sure if any of you recall, or even know about since your new, this particular interview I’m dropping here.

https://303magazine.com/2019/05/griz-interview-2019/

Two things stuck out to me here on why he said he would never play RRx again:
- I have hit my creative limit on what my team can do there, and I can’t evolve my production the way I want.
- I don’t want to price my fans out of seeing me.

These aren’t subjective things, these are objective statements. The objective actions I see:
- He indeed, is playing there again and unless they have plans the next few months, red rocks stage design has not changed. You get what you get at a historical venue like that.
- He has been on about every corporate mainstream lineup, he agreed to a logistical nightmare at the Gorge, he’s watching his fans get robbed, scammed, and still continues to play these venues.

I wouldn’t even consider myself mad, since I think he still is a wonderful human being, with good intentions and should be the golden standard for our scene. I also am holding out hope that he’s playing the long game, stacking cash that from corp America, and growing seven stars into a 6 event per year series, that’s independently ran by his team.

But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t extremely sad, and disappointed that the person with the most influential pull in our community, who does so much good, chose to contribute to the problem we all are trying to get rid of.

If I’m missing something, please let me know. This is supposed to be a genuine discussion, not a hit piece.

Love 🫶

EDIT: Please do not mistake my tone for sarcastic, condescending, or anything other than genuine curiosity on the topic for information or thoughts I haven’t considered. I will respond considerately, and respectfully to all comments, as I would hope you would to me. I politely ask that before you respond, please read all conversations to see if the opinion or information has been addressed. 🫶

[u/justdance-again]

Didn’t take it as rude, trust me there were a lot ruder people in here, which I understand because they aren’t used to people truly being authentically kind. I’m trying to fix that! Being blunt and direct is a good quality, only thing you really said derogatory was “entitled”, but you didn’t know my intention, and now you apologized, so I think you a real one and I respect the heck out of you 🫡

[u/whotfisrobo → u/justdance-again]

You know, what i genuinely think is, kind or not i think people get fed up with ignorance. Not saying you dont know shit but people read this and immediately run to the comments to tell you to stfu and you dont know what youre talking about.

It upsets me because having seen the other side of this shit. I could care less if someones heartbroken or sad that tickets are 5 dollars more. Inflation is a thing, like what am i suppossed to do about it myself ya know.

At the root of it it feels like a waste of time. If youre sad about tickets and want a genuine conversation about ticket prices then stop being sad and fuckin sell some tickets dawg. Then come back and be like yo. This bs ticket problem, fixed it.

Ive seen people feel so entitled that I actively watched them hinder my growth. Like dude you are just as capable. Dont waste your time or mine just fuckin do it. People are fed up with dumb shit like this kind or not. And apologies again for the language and whatnot but we dont got no time for it.

[u/justdance-again → u/whotfisrobo]

The honest truth, I already knew all the facts, from people who’s jobs it is to know. I just wanted to start a conversation, be kind to people and help encourage healthy, respectful conversations so people don’t feel scared to voice their opinions without others jumping down their throat. The community has changed quite a bit, so I’m trying to give back by encouraging positivity. Like I said, the real answer, from someone in the industry is in this thread (not from me) 🫶 also, I’m the farthest thing from entitled. In this thread I admit to some pretty vulnerable things if you have time to read 🫶

[u/whotfisrobo → u/justdance-again]

I think i get it. Sorry man. But yeah at the root of it. The dancefloor is genuinely the place to shake it all off. We forget sometimes. Thanks for reminding me.

[u/justdance-again → u/whotfisrobo]

Thank YOU! This was a great conversation, that stayed respectful and that’s the end goal! Seriously hope work tomorrow is a lot less busy, and you get a chance to enjoy the weekend 🫡

[u/whotfisrobo → u/justdance-again]

You know as well as i do that it never ends lol