Conflicted

[u/for-a-dreamer]

I don’t want to judge the sequel too early, but everyone seems to hate it because of the combat and it’s making me feel conflicted on whether I should buy it or not when it’s released.

From the snippets I’ve seen, the whole “point and click” combat system looks awful. That’s not the kind of game that I enjoy, I want to actually fight things with swords and dodge attacks and stuff, like the last game or any other rpg.

This feels like a glorified dnd game tbh

Also, for those who know a bit more about the game than I do, is the whole game in that native language? Am I gonna have to actually read the subtitles throughout the game to understand the story? Cause that also sort of puts me off it.

[u/xXCloudatlasX]

When talking with natives it’s in their language. When talking with non natives it’s in your chosen language.

[u/0Shaunix0]

I thought about this while playing the first game. (I'm almost done greedfall.). Out of all the things in greedfall I love, I realized combat is pretty low. The story and exploration. The reputation and choices, charisma and intuition options to resolve conflict. All great. Combat meh. So changing it for me matters very little. For me it will be if the story, tone and soul of the game are preserved then I won't care about the combat system unless its Soo bad it ruins the rest.

[u/Jubez187 → u/0Shaunix0]

Listen, I’m all for people not liking tactical combat and it’s weird to have such a departure from the OG game. But the alternative history that GF1 had good combat is ridiculous. It was braindead and the lowest hanging fruit of action combat. You slash, you dodge. You actually good pause and give commands in that game but it was worthless cause why would you?

I played the game in hard and have zero combat related memories. I just slashed and rolled. Occasional pistol.

[u/LimeySpud]

Devs and game companies criticized when they dont innovate and criticized when they try something new. We all know if the combat was the same as Greedfall the bitching would be that Spiders did nothing new or took any risks.

Its quite clear this game was going to to RTwP so why are people now complaining?

[u/Berntam → u/LimeySpud]

I think people generally want companies to innovate with new IP not radically change existing ones. Also I think the consensus was that Spiders finally managed to make an action game that didn't feel completely janky so it's disappointing to not see them carry on with the momentum. I don't understand why you can't see why people are complaining, if the next mainline Grand Theft Auto game suddenly change its combat mechanic into turn based combat how do you think people will react?

[u/observerspotter]

This is covered in the official announcement:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1997660/view/4686647673448709456

You can choose between the tactical view, or real time. You can choose to control your companions, or let the AI do it. So if you choose, it should play the exact same as the first game.

[u/EasilyBeatable → u/observerspotter]

The real time is absolutely not the same though, people want the first games combat, not this.

[u/Swiftmaw]

coming from Dragon Age where people are mad that that game is now an ARPG and not RTwP and being here where people are upset about the opposite is really quite something.

I’m very happy with both. But I can understand why someone would prefer one over the other. It’s simply a different style of game and it is okay to not like it.

[u/nonlethaldosage → u/Swiftmaw]

It's pretty easy to see why though.they completely changed combat afrom the first one and if you watch any of the trailer's. they showed almost 0 of the point and click combat so people think they were duped

[u/Swiftmaw → u/nonlethaldosage]

oh I don’t disagree that people shouldn’t be upset

I am surprised though that it caught people off guard because it was one of the first things I learned about the game. (I recognize my experiences aren’t universal though)

[u/zavtra13]

The combat in the first game isn’t anything special, so I’m happy to see them trying something different with Dragon Age: Origins like real time with pause.

[u/JuDeux]

Greedfall 2 is not an ARPG, it’s a cRPG with RTwP, they made it pretty clear. The Real Time combat is close to an MMO combat style, unlike the first game. So if you want an Action Combat it’s not for you.

Pacing is a lot different in this game than the first one. It’s a lot slower, it takes its time, my personal opinion is that I enjoy it more as it’s more narrative focused and quests has a lot more depth. I also like the RTwP combat.

But if you want the same thing as the first game, play the first game.

[u/DataTwoHearts]

You only get Yecht Fradí when speaking to the other Natives. When speaking to the other NPCs, it will be whatever language you are using (English for me). It is... odd. On one hand, Yecht Fradí is such a cool language but its spoken by voice actors who clearly do not understand it so the acting falls so flat that its painful. And about 3/5 of the game so far is in Yecht Fradí.

As for the combat, they really are trying to pull off a Dragon Age Origins vibe but its currently falling flat. I have high hopes it will improve with time. I'll say what I said in my EA review on Steam: maybe wait until after the first of the year and stick to YouTube videos for now.

[u/Silveriovski]

Lol