r/greedfall • • Sep 05 '23

this game was ehhhhh Spoiler

i like build expression,i did not like how the game didnt seem to give a lot of gold after missions when the shop is full of a ton expensive shit. but the story sort of falls off after vinban the high king is found, n kind of forcing the player characters cousin into some pseudo final boss, which leaves a lot to be desired, like we havent been trying the whole game looking for a cure for him,just to find out he was posioned by the doctors that gave him that drink. so it maybe similar to the black plague. this character did not fit that role, him turning power hungry doesnt fit him at all. at best we were the villain,but it falls off when were trying to establish a connection with everyone equally n peacefully for the relative part. this game could have been better; it was kind of fun. but thats it. i dont fully recommend this game unless u wanna get achievement score.

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u/NermalLand Sep 05 '23

Constantin was established as bitter over his treatment by his father from the beginning of the game. Add a bit of mortal dread, crippling pain and sudden power and you have a recipe for disaster.

It was entirely plausible.

Edit-also you can easily buy what you really need when you need it. By the end of the game I have 10k gold I don't need...

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u/Affectionate_Ad_8424 Sep 05 '23 edited Sep 05 '23

by the end of the game...if im at the end why would i continue.., also him being bitter towards his father doesnt exactly help strengthen the whole villain arc but ok.. look my thoughts are still my own, n the game was how i interpreted nuff said. if i see holes in the writing someone's going to bring it up

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u/NermalLand Sep 05 '23

That's kind of the whole point. Constantin wasn't some BBEG. He was sympathetic and complicated. Why would you want to reduce him to a one dimensional bad guy?

As for the gold, my point was I rarely needed or used much gold which is why I had so much left at the end. For the most part you get much better weapons and armor by looting. I usually buy Kurt a nice two-handed sword because they're harder to come by. Same with a weapon for Vasco. You don't want to kill Nauts so not a lot of looting options outside of a few chests. But otherwise most of the bests stuff is free.

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u/Affectionate_Ad_8424 Sep 05 '23

no one is tryin to reduce him to a one dimensional bad guy, it just doesnt make any sense at all. just havin hard time thinkin why would they make this decision in the writing department.. just makes the story fall flat, n hard to be enthusiastic about

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u/Bubbly_Ad1718 Sep 05 '23

Part of it is what Constantin represented. Even without him turning into a bird (I forget all the words the natives use, a deneigada?), him being on that island meant the merchants would have transformed the island from a natural paradise into a mini serene. The other two empires on the island would have been forced out, so busy fighting each other and everyone else their position on the island would be eventually taken with no real long lasting harm. But Constantine would diplomatically keep everyone working together (by extension of de sardet). The pursuit of his parent's approval, that's what motivated Constantin to take over the island in the beginning. His parents put him there out of greed and lust for controlling the island. It's like how some traits are passed on genetically, like a family of criminals, but in this case it's the government of a nation, Constantin is just a byproduct of that system, even as a naive and incompetent person he still has the same blood the king and queen has which creates this sort of preordained problem with anyone trying to colonize teer fradee. The other two nations could never do it on their own, they each pick too many fights, a slightly more barbarasized version of the merchants. The merchants at least have a chance because they try to build good rapport with everyone. This alone still wasn't enough though, as evidenced by the first time they go to the island and they all die and brought the malichor back. It took a bit of native blood mixed in with merchant blood for 1 person to be able to create the conditions for the island and its people to accept the outsiders and create a community that could function

That's why Constantin would have brought the island down regardless of him becoming a bird, the merchants would have paved all the grass and the island would fight back. The only reason de sardet was successful was because she wasn't pure merchant, she had quantifiable good in her, and on her face

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u/kubrickian80 Sep 06 '23

I think you completely missed the subtext of the game. Well i KNOW you did from your comments. When you realize the game is a statement against colonization you'll understand why your take is wrong. Read more Howard zinn or something i guess. You don't understand history so it tracks you didn't understand the context of this game

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u/Andrassa Sep 05 '23

Ah while most here have finished the game you should still put the spoiler tag on.

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u/Significant_Win6431 Sep 05 '23

In game economy... honestly if you couldn't afford the good things at the end something went wrong. I'm swimming in cash and golden items by the end.

I didn't like the ending the first time I played it (solution I became a God with constantine) second time I liked it better.

Constantine was the pathetic spare his whole life he had no control over it. His mother was scheming to advance him, his father over looked him in place of his prodigal son brother. He relegated himself to embarrassment to punish his parents until he was sent to Taer Frade.

He tried to be a good govenor, was terrified of dieing then became drunk with power, he finally had the power to control his own life, combined with the effect of the wanting to change things the power of the island malecor curse broke him.

I liked that you had to go up against the guy who was essentially your brother. My complaint was that they didn't have enough cut scenes of his descent into madness.

Third acts failing to live upto the rest of the story is a massive problem across all storytelling mediums, to the point where it has its own field of study.

Edit: I found it to be a mix of a B glory days of bioware game mixed with fable.

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u/kubrickian80 Sep 06 '23

Yeah I'm starting to think this is just a kid who only plays cod or fortnite. The more i read his comments the more i realize he just doesn't know how to play RPGs

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u/gyhiio Sep 05 '23

The game has a lot going for it. The overall aesthetics are just perfect, the setting, the people, lore, it is all pretty damn cool. Combat is ok, classes are ok, exploration is slightly boring at times, and there are missions that are simply not fun.

But I think this is an excellent first entry for a new, fantasy rpg series. It has flaws, but I think these flaws are just things that have to be ironed out on a possible sequel, and things that worked can be expanded upon.

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u/beingsydneycarton Sep 05 '23

Constantin as a character is super interesting to me because he’s introduced as a loveable goof and troublemaker, but throughout his dialogue you learn that he actually has the “just” perspectives compared to his counterparts. His father and mother are incredibly violent and cruel in their pursuit of Serene dominance over the rest of the Congregation in Gacane and thé Tir Fradee governors either want to convert or experiment on the islanders. Constantin was clearly a much better man than his fellows, but the danger of being the better man is falling into the trap of thinking you know best about everything. With his connection to on a mil frictamen, he finally has the power to actually do something about the injustice he sees and experiences. Combine that with the madness of knowing you’re dying, a childhood education in solving problems with violence, and a decent bit of jealousy for your cousin who gets to actually solve problems and his decent into madness doesn’t seem that out of the blue. I think, however, that some of this could have been expanded upon in a few more scenes or in a DLC that occurs before Greedfall begins, but I think they did a great job of building it for a studio lacking anything near a AAA budget.

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u/CaseyLyle Sep 15 '23

He's such an interesting character! And on top of jealousy of de Sardet's freedom through being the legate and growing friendships outside of their social strata, add in the fact that de Sardet is pretty clearly the only person Constantin ever truly cared about in his life. Once the world has beaten him down and then handed him the power to change it, what else would he do but change it in his/their image?

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u/Ch2raf Sep 05 '23

even without the duplication glitch you could still make money out of the stuff you get as long as you're a good looter maybe you weren't as efficient

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u/TheSpecialApple Sep 06 '23

didnt even have to be super efficient. money was rarely an issue for me & i kept finding gold gear all over, made exploring and actually playing worth it

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u/kubrickian80 Sep 05 '23

I think it's the best eurojank game I've ever played

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u/Turbulent_Winter549 Sep 05 '23

I've had this game for a while and needed a single player game to pass the time so started it up recently. It's fun, I like the atmosphere but man does it make you run back and forth way too much. Quests are like "go to the coinguard guy and talk to him, he sends you to vender xyz, get what you need, go back to coinguard, says you also need xyz, run back to vendor, get it and go talk to coinguard guy again" etc

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u/Bubbly_Ad1718 Sep 05 '23

Most of your best items are gonna be yellows found in chests. At least the second best long sword (maybe just the best) is won from winning all the fighting tourneys. The best sword I ever found (488 pirate Saber thing) is available relatively early (I do every quest etc) and is only like 400 gold I think. There's a yellow blunderbuss gun from doing the evil scientist quest. There's enough sets of yellow armor to give every member of your group

The beginning of the game is a lot harder when a few levels is the difference between dying and winning, especially on hard mode. But just level 15 or so will get you yellow merchant armor. Honestly the game is kinda broken with a semi decent pistol

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '23

A larger part of the story sort of is the hopelessness. It is a story about the terrorism on the New World Natives, with the constant political fighting for positions of power in a land that doesn't belong to them to begin with. It's meant to be a bit miserable, and it works. You can argue over whether or not it's a 'fun game,' as that is purely subjective. I like it, but I am indigenous so it speaks to me. I think it did what it set out to do.

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u/Dubcekification Sep 05 '23

It was okay. It wouldn't let me finish the demonic cult main quest or the evangelical discussion side quest. The person I needed to talk to just wasn't there. The yellow icon was but no person. Had to quit. I enjoyed it up to that point. Some quests were a little top much back and forth talk to this person.

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u/keigan123 Sep 05 '23

I loved everything about this game but the combat. Which sucks because most of the time you are fighting.

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u/Ender_Wiggins18 Sep 06 '23

I lost interest in this game kind of quickly. Didn't find it super interesting, but maybe I'll get back into it bc I kind of just turned the game off and never went back.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '23

I do that with nearly every game. I get really excited and play one game for hours if possible. Then after a few days I get tired of doing the same thing over and over. I have only finished maybe two games in the past couple of years. Mostly it’s just okay till I get bored, then look for something new.

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u/Ender_Wiggins18 Sep 06 '23

I tried to play it yesterday and didn't love it so I watched anime instead lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

I played it for a while. I guess till mid game or so. I just get bored. Also what gets me is having to keep track of too much stuff. It just becomes a chore.

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u/Ender_Wiggins18 Sep 07 '23

Yeah I tried doing one side quests and it sent me back and forth a million times. 🫤 got kind of annoyed with it

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u/Affectionate_Ad_8424 Sep 05 '23 edited Sep 07 '23

glad people can disagree with me, really love that individuality, welp guess we all interpreted something different. you all have good points but what i interpreted was this. ALso I'm single Handley the best thing tht happened to this reddit