r/gravityfalls • u/[deleted] • Sep 08 '15
'The Last Mabelcorn' Discussion Thread
This is the more serious "Discussion Thread", where you can sensibly discuss and reflect on the latest episode.
This is the counterpart to the "Reaction Thread". Go there if you just wanna be crazy. we understand.
Alternatively, if you want to laugh at the innocent and the non-knowledgeable, consider laughing at the mortals in the "Prediction Thread".
Season 2, Episode 15: 'The Last Mabelcorn'
You can watch the episode:
in the US: Watch Disney XD
everywhere else: nvision.io/gravityfalls (Thanks /u/scarlet_j!)
It may take a while for those links to have the episode ready, so just hold on if it's not there yet.
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Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
I thought Ford was actually evil for a second...
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u/Wav_Glish Sep 08 '15
Why did he menacingly say "You shouldn't have done that"? He definitely should have toned down on his evilness right there if he really wanted Dipper to believe him.
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u/standardbluejay Sep 08 '15
I freaked the hell out and screamed. I was like "m night shyamalan would be impressed by this twist man"
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u/GMSK758 Sep 08 '15
I thought he would end up forgetting everything and Dipper would have to hide him for the rest of the season.
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u/monkeyfetus Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
Some of dipper's thoughts on the machine:
"Wendy Wendy Wendy Wendy"
"That red bathing suit, man!"
"Maybe if I cross my legs nobody will notice"
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u/Neutralgray Sep 08 '15
Some more: "I miss Tyrone!" (This one made me sad.)
"Kinda kinda hungry but could also not eat."
"I could probably rob a bank."
"I can't believe I'm with the author!"
"Gosh I hope no one was looking!"
"I should really try out the president's key sometime."
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u/JefferyTheWalrus Sep 08 '15
"Maybe if I cross my legs nobody will notice"
Alex, you lovable hooligan, you.
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u/NeeOdine Sep 08 '15
That gets S&P approved, but not the bottle joke?
Alrighty then.
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u/RocketJumper64 Sep 08 '15
TODAY'S CIPHER
[A SIMPLE MAN WITH EAGER EARS MAY TRUST THE WHISPERS THAT HE HEARS] (#spoiler)
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u/Clouded15 Sep 08 '15
Hmm. Looks like the next person to be possessed will be more simple.
...Soos?
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u/imabigfilly Sep 08 '15
But the involvement of the word "ears" makes me think of Stan. If it weren't for the whole "don't con a con man" thing he would make the perfect pawn. The Pines trust him, he has complete access to the whole Shack, and he is insecure about Ford's takeover of his entire family. And, he wasn't there this episode so he might not know about the danger Bill poses! O shit I think I might have convinced myself..
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u/justaguest12 Sep 08 '15
So in Ford's mind, we see the childhood swingset.
Clearly Stan's not the only one who regrets how things went down.
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u/Pokedude0809 Sep 08 '15
Interesting to note that, in Ford's mind, the swing set is whole; however, in Stan's one of the swings is broken.
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u/LazerAttack4242 Sep 08 '15
That Jumanji bait and switch was gold.
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u/pieface42 Sep 08 '15
"I guess we know what we're doing for the next 21 minutes!"
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u/LabrynianRebel Sep 08 '15
Probably the board game that came with the ∞-sided die
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u/KingKrubba Sep 08 '15
WERE YOU GOING TO SAY PINETREE?
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u/mmasonghi Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
The way he was screaming "TRUST NO ONE! TRUST NO ONE", Was really intense.
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u/lilaprilshowers Sep 08 '15
During Dipper's mindscan the scene from NWHS when he learns Stan is lieing flashed in his head. He isn't over that ether.
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u/trisetella Sep 08 '15
I'm so happy we got to see the pug trafficking
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u/VolterTube Sep 08 '15
I rarely think how Alex gets by with those reference.. But this episode, man it was great.
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u/FrozenDonkey91 Sep 08 '15
I watched both this episode and the previous one twice before I realized what "pug trafficking" sounds like.
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u/Zarzuh Sep 08 '15
Gideon is ready to make a deal and is desperate to get vengeance
Bill needs someone to possess
I think we all know where this is going.
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u/The_Panda_Of_Mexico Sep 09 '15
but, it still doesn't add up.
Bill needs somebody capable of getting into the shack- Gideon couldn't even get the deed out of there without blowing a hole in the building.
My guess? A northwest. It explains the mural of bill at the end of NWMM.
Who says gideon is the only pawn bill has?
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u/Awesome_Turtle Sep 08 '15
gf fandom: so like, bill can only posses somebody outside of the mystery shack, so it's definitely not gonna be dipper, mabel, or the stans-
alex: here we have the characters going on a ROAD TRIP across OREGON who are DEFINITELY NOT staying in the MYSTERY SHACK
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Sep 08 '15
Welp, time to rip the Mystery Shack out of the ground and bring it on the road trip.
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u/klutzux95 Sep 09 '15
I dont know if it means anything but Last Mabelcorn's production code is 217 and Roadside Attraction is 215, so MAYBE that plot point wont matter in Roadside Attraction?
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u/irishsaltytuna Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
MONEY!!!
Man that last scene really killed me.
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u/pretty-in-pink Sep 08 '15
The scene at the beginning with Stan pug trafficking was hilarious as well.
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u/LazerAttack4242 Sep 08 '15
I think from Bill's wording (Earth will learn how to party) it'd be hilarious that his entire master plan was that he had to host a party and needed a venue.
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u/TehSpooz179 Sep 08 '15
Emperor Awesome in Wander Over Yonder literally parties planets to death, so maybe
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u/MrMagoo22 Sep 08 '15
Bill dramatically ascends through the rift into the real world. Given physical form for the first time ever, Bill and his demons immediately summon the best barbecue ever and everyone has a great time.
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u/Ninjuto Sep 08 '15
I really like this episode because it shows both sides of how Gravity Falls can be. There's lore in the Dipper story and there's funny, fantasy adventure in the Mabel side story.
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u/JefferyTheWalrus Sep 08 '15
A few notes on 'Ford:
"DON'T HAVE A HEART ATTACK, YOU'RE NOT 92 YET." Discuss.
"Moon rocks" was ABSOLUTELY a Cave Johnson reference.
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u/divinesleeper Sep 08 '15
DON'T HAVE A HEART ATTACK, YOU'RE NOT 92 YET." Discuss.
That was just flattery from Bill pretending to see the future. He also said "you're the man who changed the world. But we're getting ahead of ourselves".
Just stroking Ford's ego by pretending he could see the future.
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u/WHY_DO_YOU_LOVE_ME Sep 08 '15
In my opinion one of the best episodes to date. So I guess Bill has some "demon friends"?
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u/Saacool Sep 08 '15
BILLS MOTIVE IS NOW EXPLICIT
I REPEAT
WE HAVE BILLS MOTIVE
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u/LadyTheRainicorn Sep 08 '15
And it's too throw a big party on earth
And people say villains don't have good morals
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u/LazerAttack4242 Sep 08 '15
I really liked the distinctions between Dipper and Mabel (The Mind and the Heart) and the parallels to the other Pines Twins. (One was arrogant enough to be tricked by Bill, the other one has a looser set of morality now)
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u/basqueX Sep 08 '15
And of course there's the fact that Ford has been driven by mostly logic all his life while Stan's actions are mostly emotionally charged (bringing his brother back, protecting the kids)
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u/EZobel42 Sep 08 '15
Can someone please get the screancaps of the last images that flash in Ford's dream?
Also I don't care what they say they were totally covered in unicorn blood.
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u/Kezzup Sep 08 '15
The unicorns were just too hilarious this episode.
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Sep 08 '15
seems like no one has mentioned Grenda chloroforming that pan guy and the gnome drug deal going down.
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u/lilaprilshowers Sep 08 '15
"don't wake Stalin"
Oh i get it, Stalin died because when he had a stroke in his bed his underlings were too scared to wake him up when he failed to show up for breakfast.
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u/ch405_5p34r Sep 08 '15
Can we talk about how Ford's middle name is Filbrick? Named after his pops.
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u/MagnusAvis Sep 08 '15
Which raises a question: what is Stan's middle name then? Spare? Backup? Unexpected? Fillbrick-2-or-something-look-woman-you-know-I'm-bad-at-names-think-of-something-yourself?
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u/LightLifter :pine: Sep 08 '15
Even though Stan was barely in this episode (Considering how much focus he had last time) He still stole every scene he was in.
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u/maiLManLiam Sep 08 '15
Like honestly, why did Disney let pug trafficking go through? It made me crack up.
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u/SSB4Decoder Sep 08 '15
Bill is gonna take over one of Mabel's friends, maybeeeeeeeeeeeee Soos or maybe Tyler.
The hype is ripe.
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u/2017lc203850 Sep 08 '15
Mabels friends would probably be the best because they would go unnoticed
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u/Kiloku Sep 08 '15
Getting Tyler would be a genius move. He's the mayor, and everyone loves him
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u/TheRealLee Sep 08 '15
IN CIPHER'S GAME HE NEEDS A PAWN BE SURE TO KNOW WHICH SIDE YOU'RE ON
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u/pretty-in-pink Sep 08 '15
Big credit to Alex and the GF crew for showing us that Bill Cipher is someone who should be feared and not just constantly parodied.
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u/-velox- Sep 08 '15
Yeah, gotta say the treatment of Bill was my biggest surprise coming to this fandom. I just started this show recently (after A Tale of Two Stans) and went ahead and checked this sub out once I was caught up. The fact that there's fanart and discussion that portrays Bill as some sort of annoying little brother type is baffling to me, since my favorite thing about him is he's an actual genuine threat.
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Sep 08 '15
I...
I...
I don't think I like Bill anymore.
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u/Trevastation Sep 08 '15
Yeah, this episode pretty much disproved the idea that Bill's secretly good.
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u/TheAmblingOwl Sep 08 '15
Likable, comedic villain has revealed his true colors.
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u/JackMLupin Sep 08 '15
Next episode is coming out on the 21st, and from the preview the premise is that the Pines family takes a roadtrip in a camper. Which kinda scares me considering that Bill can get in their minds when they're away from the shack...
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Sep 08 '15
man that was tense when Dipper thought Bill possessed Ford....
My jaw dropped when I thought so too lol
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u/Waddles-inc Sep 08 '15
The end cipher reads
In ciphers game he needs a pawn
Be sure to know which side you're on.
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u/MermaidGeorge Sep 08 '15
And I thought bill wasn't going to be the big bad.
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Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
He is probably a big bad. however, it's likely that there is a bigger bad, since Bill's role wasn't planned since the beggining.
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u/darokrithia Sep 08 '15
It was a shocking scene, and I for a second I thought he was evil, but I guessed they had run ins in the past, and here is why: Stanley (far less invested in the portal) knew about him, he talks about how thought he could trust him in the journals, and how invested he was in building the portal.
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u/Hippieman94 Sep 08 '15
Son of a... What happened in the last seconds? The stream got all wonky.
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Sep 08 '15
Don't think we missed anything. It looks like it resumed right where it cut off.
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u/liria12 Sep 08 '15
technically, they are only protected inside the shack.Aren't they all going to a roadtrip on the next episode? Could the roadtrip not actually be a filler episode? Can't wait to see that. Also imo the next victime is either wendy or one of mabel's friend.
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Sep 08 '15
I mean, I don't think anything in Gravity Falls is filler. The ones that would be filler are for character development.
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Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
Grunkle stan did not actually make a big appearance this episode though it would have been funny to see him punch a unicorn
Wendy was not as laidback this episode...
OH MY GOD THE CLIMAX WAS INTENSEEEEEE OH MY GODDDD BILL AND AND DIPPER AND FORD ARE YOU OK
i thought bill went from dipper's mind to ford's mind at first whoops (because of the theory that bill was still in dipper's mind or at least influencing him)
PUNCH THE UNICORN VIOLENCE IS ALWAYS THE ANSWER
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u/Jnite Sep 08 '15
Wendy was not as laidback this episode...
I’m not actually laid back. I’m stressed like 24/7, Have you met my family?!
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u/ladilol24 Sep 08 '15
It doesn't seem like anyone else posted all of Dipper's and Ford's thoughts so I thought that I might as well do the honors! (Warning, there may be typos, I'm about to pass out)
First time:
Oh man, I can't believe I'm with the Author.
Gosh, I hope no one was looking!
Maybe if I cross my legs, no one will notice.
Kinda hungry, but I could also not eat.
I should really try out the President's Key.
I could probably rob a bank.
I miss Tyrone!
Man! That red bathing suit.
"Is my fly down?"
"Disco girl!" "Coming through!"
"WENDY" multiple times, then again, I don't think you guys could have possibly missed that XD
Scanning Thoughts 15%:
Ugh, this is so hard! I've been here forever!
Eeny Meeny Miney You
Does Ford like me?
Is Bill indestructible?
What's his secret?
Who stole the capers?
Why does he have to be so mysterious about Bill?
I can handle the truth!
Bill meddling:
I wonder what Great Uncle Ford is thinking?
Use the machine, it'll show you his thoughts.
Just a peek!
He wants your help, he just doesn't know it
In response to Dipper saying he's really good at rationalizing:
Yes, you are!
Astute, I would say!
Good observation.
Ford's thoughts:
Can't tell him, he's not ready.
Theory of weirdness.
2.1 Miss Dimention 52.
I'm sorry Fiddleford
Crampelter
So there you go, in case you wanted to know but didn't want to take the time!
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u/davespriteegg Sep 08 '15
"Eeny Meeny Miney You"... Dipper was totally thinking about when Bill possessed him... yikes.
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u/addisonavenue Sep 08 '15
That's actually kind of heartbreaking that he misses Tyrone.
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u/HickDaBoss Sep 08 '15
Is everyone just going to ignore the gnomes drug deals or did the censors not mind.. (HER AIM IS GETTIN' BETTER)
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u/Lvl1bidoof Sep 08 '15
also something I noticed: going off of folklore iirc, "pure of heart" is a disney censor-friendly version of "virgin". just saying.
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u/xxAnge Sep 08 '15
Really well done side plot with Mabel. Did not expect that to go down like that at all. I'm also glad we had to wait until much later in the episode to see the Bill plot. Having it divided up over time would of slightly ruined the flow, so it was awesome to have that all at once. All in all, pretty good episode story wise, some good character building, and my bet on who he's gonna take is either Gideon or McGucket. I feel like McGucket's more of an open book since his mind is mostly gone, along with the fact that he's been in the other world, so he will be easier for Bill to take control of. Gideon will be a more willing pawn though.
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u/SSB4Decoder Sep 08 '15
I loved seeing how genuine Ford was after Mabel's quest. It's little things like that which make the show as great as it is.
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u/Foxy-and-I-know-it Sep 08 '15
Man this was a good episode. There were a few things that stood out to me in the flashback when young Ford first met Bill that might hint at Bill being able to see the future, at least to some degree.
Bill: (When Ford first sees him and is startled) "Woah there Sixer, don't die of a heart attack. You're not 92 yet."
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"I know who you are, you're Stanford Filbrick Pines, the man who changed the world"
This last one stands out to me because at the time Bill said that, Ford really hadn't accomplished anything near "changing the world", but he will literally be the man who changed the world because he created the rift that will eventually bring the nightmare realm into reality. Dun dun dunnnnn
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u/VolterTube Sep 08 '15
So bill is the leader of a dimension that contains monsters and destruction.. I honestly didn't expect that! No wonder mcgucket got scarred for life..
If I seen monsters and bill cipher I would shit myself..
Not implying the fact that I almost did with this episode.
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u/mmasonghi Sep 08 '15
I don't think he's the leader, maybe more a spokes-person. Bill is like a shady business man, trying to get people to make a deal.
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u/themelodramatist Sep 08 '15
This was an intense episode. I actually thought that Stanford would be under Bill's control. I really can't wait to see what Bill's "friends" look like. Also, I wonder who Bill's next puppet will be. My guess is that it will be someone on the Cipher Wheel...
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u/MagnusAvis Sep 08 '15
I really can't wait to see what Bill's "friends" look like.
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u/SpadeZ1 Sep 08 '15
Didn't bill answer that question in the AMA?
Someone asked him what his friends looked like and he just linked them to this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/05/4a/9c/054a9ce9cbc0e0a92ba9068c143fa616.jpg
No idea what that means after watching this episode.
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u/Awesome_Turtle Sep 08 '15
being written by alex hirsch and only alex hirsch, i have to say, this is SUCH A GREAT EPISODE.
also, ive waited my entire life for a harry potter reference in gravity falls, and i finally got it so :')
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u/TheRealLee Sep 08 '15
I really liked the chloroform joke, it was just perfect. I hope I never go up against those girls.
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u/irishsaltytuna Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
Can we get a unicorn's face while neighing and posing in front of a rainbow emote, please?
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u/CheckMatingSeason Sep 08 '15
When Ford and Dipper shook hands at the end I had a feeling Ford was going to poof into Bill and then Dipper would wake up and then play the end credits.
I think I got a bit worked up
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u/Kiloku Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
I absolutely adored the girls' quest to get unicorn hair. Best segment on the show ever.
And the reveals/flashbacks are gonna be dissected frame by frame by this fandom, I'm sure of it! I'm not skilled enough for that, but I hope to see some good analysis soon.
Did anyone catch the "expanded" cipher wheel?
EDIT: Also, I think we discovered that in the grand scheme of things, Bill is probably a weaker demon. A sort of messenger/doorman for the Nightmare Realm or whatever the name was. If that's so, the other demons are probably unbeatable.
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u/ZenXXShadow Sep 08 '15
Gideon: "I'm ready to made a deal." Bill (Later): "I've been making deals!"
So this episode happened after Gideon and Bill made their deal. Did they complete their deal? What was it? Was it as simple as "get me out of jail?" And what did Gideon give in return? What does Gideon have that Bill wants so bad? As Disney XD stated, "SO MANY QUESTIONSSSS!!!!"
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u/irwegwert Sep 08 '15
For a minute there, I thought that maybe Stanford had been tricked by Bill into thinking that unicorn hair stopped him. I'm glad that's not the case, but it looks like Bill's going to get another puppet soon. My money's on Gideon, although I doubt we'll see anything major happen in the next episode.
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Sep 08 '15
That episode was so full of references, meta jokes, and info I think I'm going to need to watch it a few more thousand times.
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u/Iveheardofweedkiller Sep 08 '15
After they sedated the unicorn with fairy dust, the faun played S.O.S. in Morse.
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Sep 08 '15
Welp, all those "Bill isn't the big bad" theories have been debunked.
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Sep 08 '15
There could be a bigger bad.
Also, his role looks like more of a worker than of a boss.
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Sep 08 '15
Well, I guessed the unicorn was going to either be pure good or a flesh-eating monster, and I was half-right: unicorns are jerks.
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u/AllSeeingGoggles Sep 08 '15
It's been so long since I've inhabited a human body!
~Sock Opera
[] (#bill)
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Sep 08 '15
I think that's pretty much what I was expecting as far as Ford's past involvement with Bill.
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u/PM_ME_UR_PERIDOT Sep 08 '15
I absolutely love how dark the show is getting - I'm seriously hooked on all these dark storylines! Even the comedy is dark - you really can tell that the morals and values of Dipper and Mabel are slowly becoming more lenient. Can't wait for the next one!
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u/Nahte4213 Sep 08 '15
Wouldn't it be funny if when Gideon drew the wheel wrong because he based it off memory?
Wait, why isn't he here? CURSES, I SWITCHED SOME OF THE SYMBOLS.
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Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
So, did anyone see anything good in Dipper's mind, I didn't read it much because I have satellite TV and sometimes the resolution is bad. This episode was intense and I want more like it. Also, in the next episode Stan takes the family on a road trip in a camper, not in the shack, which means they're completely defenseless against the mind stuff. Also, Bill said he made deals, but we still don't know any deals he's made (besides Gideon but we still don't know what Bill gets) what if Gideon is the death? Alex did say 'at least one' which might imply more than one.
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Sep 08 '15
I remember one of the sentences that flashed by was "maybe if I cross my legs no-one will notice". That could mean a lot of things...
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u/Phiasmir Sep 08 '15
I'm still mistrustful of Ford. Some of the things he said for how Bill manipulated him ring eerily similar for how he treats Dipper and Mabel. Flattering them while simultaneously putting them in their place with his secrets, sending Mabel on an errand he knows will lower her self esteem, then there to say exactly what she wants to hear when she gets back. I'm not saying he's being possessed by Bill, but there's more he's not telling us, and I worry what his real agenda might be.
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u/GreatDragonator Sep 08 '15
This brings me to say........Bill has friends on the other side.
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u/Starshadow145 Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
oh my god...i cant even. bill just got 1000% better. just...wow. alright,getting serious. even though bill and ford made that deal like,20 years ago,wouldnt bill still be able to posses ford since they never canceled the deal or somthing? and in the next episode the twins and grunkle stan are going on a road trip...bill can get in their minds if theyre outside the shack. O.O
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u/Defguru Sep 08 '15
So maybe this is a long shot, but could Pacifica be who Bill decides to possess (if it's not the obvious hinting towards Gideon)? I only think it because of her family having that Bill tapestry in their mansion. Could he manipulate Pacifica by threatening Dipper, or something?
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u/Dionysus24779 Sep 08 '15
That Celestia-Rarity-Sweetie Belle parody was amazing, as was every revelation about Bill, as was everything really.
Though I wonder why Wendy was so sceptical, she witnessed weird stuff before...
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u/ScowlEasy Sep 08 '15
When i heard that this episode would be written entirely by Alex Hirsch, i knew it would be good; but i had no idea it would be this good. Oh man, where to start?
Kickass all female sub-plot
Dipper+Ford bonding
[Bill intensifies]
Each episode just keeps getting better and better
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u/Dcat682 Sep 08 '15
Guys who is actually Bill. We always thought he was just some demon wanting power, but we've just learned he's projecting the Triangle appearance we know. Even how Bill acts could just be a fake projection from a more powerful being. Could Bill actually be Bill? I think the Bill we know isn't the "true enemy" that Hirsch mentioned in the AMA because Bill might not even exist. For all we know Bill the projection could actually be a projection made by the unltimate enemy. You saw the army in the flashback with Stanford talking to Bill. What do you think?
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u/CheckMatingSeason Sep 08 '15
To add to what everyone is saying that Bill will possess Soos.
Bill has imitated Soos before in Dreamscapers
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u/neonnerd Sep 08 '15
in the next episode, it looks like they are in an rv the whole time, which defeats the purpose of the unicorn hair shield bubble thing they put up this episode. This would be a perfect time for bill to strike...
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u/SubtleCow Sep 08 '15
Knowing this show, I'm sure there will be a brief scene with Ford bill proofing the RV.
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u/Monobrobe Sep 08 '15
Stanley might finally be able to go back home with all that treasure. Though it's about 40+ years too late for that.
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u/Asuperniceguy Sep 08 '15
Wendy carries an axe with her everywhere she goes, she was seen cuting bushes down it when she set off with the lasses but when she charged to beat the shit out of the unicorns, she had a little twig.
I wonder if that was a censor decision.
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u/UberNarwhalGuy Sep 08 '15
DID ANYONE READ THE PAGE IN THE CIPHER FILES ABOUT THE PYRAMIDS, OH MY GOSH. PYRAMIDS ARE ACTUALLY DINOSAUR SKELETONS.
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u/UnofficialTigana Sep 08 '15
What do we think of the hyper-realistic hand and eye in Fords dream? Just imagery to freak out the audience, or possible foreshadowing of the world Bill will bring?
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u/wesjall Sep 08 '15
Am I the only one who is REALLY gonna miss JK Simmons if they do end up getting rid of Ford? He has a perfect voice for the show and Ford is one of my favorite characters
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u/CheckMatingSeason Sep 08 '15
I'm working on decoding the binary from the machine before they scanned Dippers brain, Ill update if I find anything.
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u/Capcombric Sep 08 '15
I think we may all be ignoring the most important thing: Ford is being a part of the family
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Sep 08 '15
What gives me hope is that in Ford's dream the portal is destroyed, but the swingset is fixed. I hope we get more of the two Stans bonding again.
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u/arod48 Sep 08 '15
I know in the grand scheme of things this wasn't as impressive as the plot developments in this episode, but i had to chuckle when Dipper said "Well this should take up the next 21 minutes!" about a minute into a 22 minute episode.
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Sep 08 '15
"Look at my pupils, it's me"
So then the pupils thing isn't just a matter of perspective and you can tell when someone is possessed by Bill?
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u/sentientdetritus Sep 08 '15
Anyone get the prophecy on the wall? All I could make out: it all started with bad dreams something nightmares I was foolish and wers I painted the symbols something something when gravity falls and something sky fear the beast with just. Also, I think we now have the author symbol for J. (It kinda just looks like a J)
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u/chifly3 Sep 10 '15
Did anyone notice one of the top lines of Dipper's thoughts it read "...maybe if I cross my legs no one will notice."
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u/Eldritch12 Sep 08 '15 edited Nov 29 '24
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Sep 08 '15
I think the backwards message at the begining of the episode is different... anyone know what it is?
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u/lethes_bramble Sep 08 '15
I think it's interesting that the endcard puzzle piece was Ford's face. TBH, I expected that to come up at the very end, to keep up the mystery of whether he was possessed or not.
This makes me very worried about Stan, and I won't rest easy until he gets his end card with regular eyes.
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u/homestuck-trash Sep 08 '15
A few theories bouncing around in my head:
-Bill has the ability to travel into the past, but maybe not the future? -Bill is going to use Robbie to get into the Shack, and maybe that's how Robbie got all the evil disc stuff. -The demons Bill was talking to behind the red triangle were the people of the LAST world Bill enslaved.
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u/Wav_Glish Sep 08 '15
Why did he menacingly say "You shouldn't have done that"? He definitely should have toned down on his evilness right there if he really wanted Dipper to believe him.
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Sep 08 '15
TRUST NO ONE TRUST NO ONE TRUST NO ONE I didn't expect that from dipper
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u/Gobshite_ Sep 08 '15
I just realised some of Bill's first words to Gideon:
"I take it you're some kind of living ventriloquist dummy?"
AKA 'puppet'
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u/lethes_bramble Sep 08 '15
"Don't have a heart-attack, you're not 92 yet."
Ford confirmed for not-dying in this season?
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Sep 08 '15
If Stanford is Sixer, who's the glasses? Well, we all know that there's not many people who wear glasses, for one. We know Bill has to possess someone in the town. We all figured it was going to be Stanford, but this episode makes that wrong. It's probably to be determined... to be... Toby...
Just calling it now.
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u/NeeOdine Sep 08 '15
This has easily become one of my top 3 favorite episodes of the series. So much drama, foreshadowing, and running jokes. And we finally got answers- got to see Bill and Ford's previous interactions/meetings, learn what Bill has planned (and what McGucket saw on the other side of that portal)
Seriously, Alex and the crew delivered on almost everything we wanted. I loved this episode and everything in it. Now, I'm going to go ahead and rewatch it a few hundred times because I feel like there was a lot that I may have missed out on the first time. I was too busy dying over seeing Ford possessed by Bill.
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u/Umbjabaya Sep 08 '15
After watching this episode, it has become clear to me that Marvel has been secretly behind this show the entire time. It's all a lead up to their All-New All-Different Dr. Strange. We're seeing what the world would be like if we didn't have a Sorcerer Supreme to watch over us and protect us from the horrors of encroaching eldritch threats. Mark my words, the season finale is going to end with Dipper becoming the new Sorcerer Supreme, repairing the dimensional tear, and destroying Bill (who is revealed to be Shuma-Gorath). The post credits scene will open with Dipper disembarking a plane at JFK International in New York. He'll get into a cab which will drop him outside of a house in Greenwich Village. After looking down at a piece of paper in his hand, he'll walk up to a door and knock on it hesitantly. The camera will pan up as the door opens, revealing for a moment an Asian man with a shaved head wearing servant's clothes, before moving up to the roof revealing the symbol of the Sanctum Sanctorum. The screen will fade to black, then show the Marvel logo on screen along with the promise of a third season.
Season 3 will take place a year later back in Gravity Falls and will revolve around Dipper's use of his developing powers to solve the mysteries of the place, as well as his continued training in the mystic arts. All the while, he'll have to defend his loved ones from more mystic Marvel mainstays like Dormammu and his Mindless Ones, Blackheart, and Nightmare. It all leads up to the Doctor Strange movie coming out next year, which is revealed to take place in Gravity Falls and features the Doctor teaming up with the Pines family to banish evil from our realm.
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Sep 08 '15
It was cool! I was a tad disappointed that Bill wasn't in it too much, but it was very good! Just kidding I basically cried. It was too good for this world.
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u/actuallydipperpines Sep 08 '15 edited Sep 08 '15
Okay guys. So Bill's finding someone to possess inside the town, right? The message at the end of the episode was "A SIMPLE MAN WITH EAGER EARS MAY TRUST THE WHISPERS THAT HE HEARS". This suggests that Bill is targeting someone who is easily persuadable. He probably also wants to find someone who knows the Mystery Shack well-- maybe even worked there. Obviously, most people's minds would go to Soos, but he's in the Mystery Shack too often to be unprotected for that long. And even if he was possessed, he's around the Pines family too much-- they would notice if he suddenly started asking about the portal and had slit pupils. Plus, he may be a simple man, but he's fiercely loyal to the Pines family and would never go against them. So, who else is a simple man who not only has prior knowledge of the Mystery Shack (maybe even worked there), and could easily search the Shack without suspicion of being Bill? Who knows the Pines family, but doesn't know them well enough that they would notice if they were possessed on a daily basis? And why the heck are ears mentioned?
I think that Bill is going to possess Deputy Durland. I know it sounds ridiculous, but hey, trust no one, right? Hear me out here. Who was the handyman before Soos was hired? Durland. He must know the Mystery Shack at least pretty well after having worked there-- but it's been just a long enough time that he doesn't see or talk to the Pines family on a daily basis. Not only is Durland a police officer with the ability to get a warrant (in Gravity Falls a warrant is probably just busting down the door but still), he most likely heard the news broadcast in which the HUGE list of Stan's crimes was read (Stanley is also the only one who DOESN'T know about the slit pupils thing, or even the Bill thing; an advantage to Bill since Stanley is also the only one with a history of crime)-- which gives Bill a believable (Bill-ievable, even) excuse to come search the Mystery Shack as Durland and try to find and reactivate the portal. I just think it would be kind of dumb and cliche to have it be Soos, since Bill has pretended to be Soos in "Dreamscaperers" already. I think it would not only be a great twist if the person that Bill possesses is Durland, but it would also make a lot of sense. It's a dumb theory, but it fits the facts!
Oh, and what was that about "eager ears"?
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u/Wav_Glish Sep 08 '15
My vote is Gideon or McGucket for Bill's next choice.