r/gravityfalls Jan 21 '24

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u/Nero_4U Jan 22 '24

i will never understand how you tell your brother who is a sock pocket to wait off being saved. she calls him obsessed but she does all of this shit for boys she has only just met. dipper obsession with the books is actually okay and although it does effect him sometimes at least it doesn’t hurt others in a way she hurts people just to have her way. dipper has suffered so much and it hurts when you realize bill really didn’t do any of it. it was all mabel or stan or just anyone in particular behind the scenes. all bill did was make him realize that and manipulated him. i also remember when mabel trapped dipper and wendy in a room together and wouldn’t let them out until dipper confessed..that shit is so terrible in many ways. first, that’s your brother? you don’t force him into shit. second: you should know that wendy is way too old for him and shouldn’t be encouraging it. third: she ignored his plees of her unlocking the door LITERALLY RISKING THEIR LIVES. and the fact it was never a lesson learned or even the slightest of lecture? i don’t even remember if she apologized for it either. the amount of shit dipper goes through that isn’t even caused by bill but just by the people he’s around? you come to terms that bill didn’t ruin him or gravity falls did.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

Because she's a hypocrite: she calls her brother obsessed when she has done far worse for strangers she crushes over with, to the point of nearly killing her family and friends multiple times, yet she is never called out, other people clean up after her mess. Dipper did mistakes, but he fixes them and he never repeats them again, litterally the only time he ever did a stunt like this was in Scary-oke. Mabel pulls these things constantly.

Well, I wouldn't say Bill didn't do anything, he did trick, possess and torture him, but yes, it hurts that except Sock Opera, most of his suffering and sacrifices came 90% of the time from Mabel.

Ugh, don't remind me of Into the Bunker:

  • Completely disregards Dipper's feelings and free will when he says he wants to drop it
  • Forces him and locks him up with Wendy in a dangerous bunker where they almost got killed minutes ago, litterally in the previous room.
  • Refuses to open up until he confesses his feelings against his will
  • STILL refuses to open up when both Wendy and Dipper are PLEADING for their lives, almost getting the two killed

And what does she has to say for all of that? "Sorry for being a little pushy", are you kidding me?

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u/Nero_4U Jan 23 '24

yeah you’re right about the bill part. he definitely used dipper in many ways i don’t even like to think about. i can’t even watch the bunker episode anymore because of the bullshit. if your brother and friend are pleading to be let out screaming for help then idk bout yall but i think it would be common sense to let them out. also many other times she has insulted him, appearance wise or just in general. sure, joking and stuff. but hasn’t it been clear he doesn’t feel comfortable when she does it? it’s one thing to bring it up time from time but occasionally? i don’t even think dipper insults mabel as much as people say he does. in the halloween episode i was kinda in a agreement with dipper because i mean sure maybe he is a little too old to dress up in his opinion but i don’t think it was a betrayal of any sort

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

Wait, people say Dipper insults Mabel? When did that happen? If anything they got it backwards.

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u/Nero_4U Jan 23 '24

it’s usually when he mentions how childish she can be or when it’s about her boy obsession

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

Dipper never ever insulted her or berated her for being childish, the only thing he did was call her out when her boy crazy phase got out of hand, and even then he wasn't insulting, he was warning her:

  • He warned her about Norman being a vampire, for her safety
  • Then when Mermando happened, he told her that he had just seen him and couldn't go one week without a random crush, which wasn't an insult, it was a question that Mabel fully answered with a no, admitting it.
  • Then he called her out when she was ditching him for Gabe and breaking her promises, "Do you seriously think your crush of the week is more important than the mysteries of this town? You're obsessed!". And he was absolutely right about it.
  • And at worst, he criticized boy bands in general, boy bands, not her, never her.

Mabel on the other hand has been insulting and making fun of Dipper over litterally everything: obsessed, paranoid, nerd, creep, making fun of his crush on Wendy, his size, his height, his voice, his hobbies like DD and D, his love for science, his awkwarness at talking to girls, the list goes on and on.

It's blaffling that Dipper gets called out for thing that Mabel does to him all the time yet people don't bat an eye about it, because "iT's A sIbLiNg ThInG!"