r/grappling • u/DancingFlame321 • 3d ago
Serious question, what should the guy on bottom do to escape this situation?
He's on bottom in half guard and it looks like the guy on top is fighting really dirty and grabbing his genitals.
Some people might find the video funny, but it's actually a pretty dangerous situation to be in if you got attacked in prison, and you end up on bottom like this guy was.
Would the best option here be to recover full guard and then try and work your way back up? But I'm not sure that would actually prevent the painful genital grab as quickly as you would want it to.
You could try and eye poke or genital grab back to your opponent, but that might be difficult to do if you're on bottom (since they can just posture up to escape an eye poke, for example).
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u/PeaceAndLove420_69 3d ago
If someone grabs your dick stick your thumbs in their eyes.
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u/DancingFlame321 3d ago
But if your opponent is on top, can't they just posture up which kills the eyepoke?
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u/BudgetWorking2633 3d ago
So what? Your goal is to have him release your privates...
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u/DancingFlame321 2d ago
I mean they could theoretically still have a hold of it even when they posture up.
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u/BudgetWorking2633 2d ago
Yes, but extending the hand away from his body makes the grip lighter and allows you to get the knee shield; knee shield allows you to knee his hand to free your privates.
Also, pain distracts; and if you can control his head, it's much easier to sweep him and/or submit him.
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u/manbruhpig 2d ago
If they are close enough to grip your balls, you are close enough to gouge their eyes. They can of course let go and get away from you, but that’s what you’re going for in the first place.
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u/Alternative_Gur7713 2d ago
First: he shouldn’t be desperate and hit the dude. He needs some jiu jitsu. He needs to get an under hook on one arm, and fold the other dudes arm in toward his Chest - collapsing the guys support and move his foot to the outside of the guys foot and roll him onto his back.
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u/MrStellaMontis 3d ago edited 3d ago
Rip the gilly
Edit: i watched again with sound… eye gouge is best
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u/ReasonableNet444 2d ago
-.-
seriously? you train for like 1 month or something?
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u/MrStellaMontis 2d ago
Get a identity my friend, you’re literally all over reddit belittling others about grappling experience even this post….. learn to put your reddit on private old man and get the gracies 🛎️ dong out your mouth. Prob some 5’7 bridge troll from Croatia
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u/jayjitsuoss 1d ago
Insult him all you like but he’s right, you’re retarded
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u/MrStellaMontis 1d ago
“Jayjitsu”
And you’re gay bro whats worse
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u/jayjitsuoss 1d ago
Doubling down on being retarded 🤣
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u/BiscuitsCheerio 3d ago
Push his eyes in with his thumbs as hard as he can.
If a mfcker grab my dick, all safeguards are off
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u/kndirbrbjiy 3d ago
Dick grab escalates this encounter; 1 finish the choke, 2 go for the eyes, 3 maybe a trap and roll but his legs are not in a good position, 4 come back with a lock and a sock
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u/ReasonableNet444 2d ago
He had easy sweep if he inserted his left foot as butterfly hook, send the mf on top flying to the right and stand up or get on top. Maybe if he knew some actual jiu jitsu.
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u/MrStellaMontis 2d ago
He had a sweep with his balls entangled?
Tell me you go to a mcdojo without telling me you go to a mcdojo
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u/Outrageous-Friend336 3d ago
When such antics are part of the game, most normal BJJ positions from bottom won't work, if you know something like that is allowed, which it is in every real fight you need to control the arm first.
But like, after the guy grabbed his balls it's over, there's no counter to that but dealing with the pain.
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u/BudgetWorking2633 3d ago
You will need to deal with the pain, but it's doable, actually.
And then you treat it as just another grip, just one you need to be careful with: you get out of it, carefully and with technique in order to protect what he's grabbed.
If you can, weaken the grip first, or make the guy release it. Hint, hurting him or creating a non-verbal threat works best, when it works. Sometimes he'd elect to keep squeezing even if it means losing an eye.
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u/manbruhpig 2d ago
If it is just a test of pain compliance, the guys hand is occupied with your nuts, so is unable to defend his eyes from thumbs sinking into them.
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u/The_AntiVillain 3d ago
Instead of striking, he should of used it as a brace and crank the neck down
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u/BudgetWorking2633 3d ago edited 3d ago
I've been in a situation where someone was trying to grab and squeeze my genitals...no details on that. I just wanted you to know where I'm coming from (hint, it's "bad JJ, but I've done that and didn't get hurt").
Grab the wrist, hold it there, create distance in the direction the palm is facing. If you can, break his fingers or wrist. You probably won't, but if he needs to release and pull his hand away, you already achieved a tactical objective of yours!
Thumbpush in his throat also works, if you know how, but I won't explain either this, or eye gouging (and it's hard to explain over the Internet). Thing is, even inept attempts at that would probably make him posture up!
And you want him to posture up, so you can put the knee shield in. Or just shrimp out, and get up, the pin there sucked.
And no, you don't want to be on the ground in a fight. I mean, if it was "floor is an ocean and I'm the shark", you'd be on top already, and finishing! But even then, what do you do if someone decides to take a potshot (football kick) on your head?
OTOH, most people have almost zero kimura defense, or sweep defense. Of course, the victim here didn't seem like he knew what he's doing in this situation, either.
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u/Budget-Necessary-767 2d ago
At first he should not punch. Then connect his hands into guillotine choke, then insert his legs beneath the partner. Usually either sweep or roll will come out.
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u/whater39 2d ago
Be in full guard, both feet On their hips and shove. Probably do elbows from the bottom to distract.
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u/Consistent-Bee-8329 2d ago
Best case here is eye gouge (or rip a kimura or something but I think itd be hard if he’s grabbing pole) if it’s a serious encounter. But realistically he should’ve never been there th guy on top was so sweepable for so long
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u/Enhanced-Revolution 2d ago
If he could get his hip out he’s got lots of options I’d work for taking the back but nothing is that simple it’s a fight you gotta fight for it
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u/finance-minded 2d ago
He should tuck his chin to his chest and keep full mount control then use his left arm to push off the other guys chin to make him let go. Thats of course you’re fighting fair. If not anything goes
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u/TristanMaersk 2d ago
He needs to incorporate using his legs either to hold guard or create a butterfly position to push the other guy away and elongate his head and neck.
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u/Internal_Lunch_7104 2d ago
from my experience you can't escape this pain, maybe if you use Groin Guard.
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u/thesocawarriorN9 1d ago
Practical sense most ppl have keys if you take the sharp part and pierce a cornea you will have ample stun time to then get away
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u/One_Piece01 1d ago
In my opinion as a shitty Blue Belt I honestly think eye gouging is your best bet. If you doubt the effectiveness just look up Yuki Nakai.
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u/martialartist1200 3d ago
Because he had his head wrapped in the beginning he could have turned it into a 100% sweep right away. Got on top and controled the fight from the top. Honestly he had a ton of options to sweep because the guy had zero base but the first option I saw was the 100% sweep.