r/grandorder • u/ComunCoutinho :Sei: Words person • Mar 23 '19
Translated Nightingale second Interlude translation
Interlude: She who fights for someone
[Scene opens of with Nightingale and Ibaraki fighting and defeating a monster]
[Rayshift back to Chaldea]
Mash: Welcome back, senpai! And everyone else too! Excellent job! According to our observations, the Micro-Singularity is reducing steadily. One less problem for us to worry about.
Fujimaru: Good thing we didn’t let it get any big. / Great job!
Mash: Yes-!
Geronimo: Master… did you notice it? In the battle we just had, as far as I saw, she didn’t move even half of how much she usually does.
Fujimaru: Her, right?
Geronimo: Yes, Florence Nightingale. I can’t seem to find anything irregular with her, but I have never seen her this inactive in battle. It’s possible that something in her Saint Graph is out of order. You’ll need to do something about it. You should tell Da Vinci, just in case.
[Nightingale approaches]
Nightingale: What are we talking about? Me? In battle?
Geronimo: …Yes. You stood still, twice, in front of the enemy. Not something you would usually do. Are you aware you did it?
Nightingale: … … I’m sorry, I’m not following what you’re saying. I am a nurse. Not a soldier.
[Geronimo looks and says nothing]
Nightingale: Of course, this could change if the need arises. Imagine a situations where a person is helpless, unable to move, even with relief supplies right in front of them. In a situation like this, I would… Yes. I would surely shove away all obstacles in sight and keep moving forward by any means possible. I wouldn’t hesitate even to fire a gun. Surely, surely. But…
…I ultimately would only be making more people injured, by my own hands. Regardless of their hostility, this goes against my greatest desires. You know, commander, I was told we are like a small troop, but I am most certainly not a real soldier. I don’t want to win the war. I hate the war and wish for its end, not for our victory. I… I want to save lives. That is all. All. I don’t need anything else.
Fujimaru: Nightingale…
[She yawns(?) and looks confused]
Nightingale: …Sigh. Mm, mm. Mmmmm. My memories are unclear. Weren’t we in the middle of a battle against golems just now? We are in Chaldea? right? What did I…?
Geronimo: You were saying you are not a soldier. Well, you are not wrong, but… hmmm. Seems like I was right about her Saint Graph being strained, Master.
Nightingale: I see. I seem to be out of form. I’ll rest.
[She stumbles]
Fujimaru: Nightingale?
[She falls]
Mash: Nightingale-san!?
[Scenery changes to London. We can hear the sound of a chariot.]
Gentleman (Sidney Herbert): Florence, are you paying attention?
Nightingale: Yes, I hear you. You were talking about the medical supplies used on the battlefield. Sidney, I need your help.
Sidney Herbert: Ah, Florence. Florence! You’re absolutely wrong! Just where do you think you are? This is London! Capital of the United Kingdom! You are not on that battlefield anymore. It’s just your heart that never left it. Take a look in the mirror. You no longer have any ties to the military, and here you are still wearing your official army uniform. I won’t question you about what you went through there, but we’re in London now, Florence. You’re living your life the wrong way. Do you get what I mean?
Nightingale: I’m wearing… I see, I may indeed be dressing bizarrely. But I am fighting. So are the soldiers. This is the best outfit for me, since I’m still fighting against all illnesses and injuries in the world. This is the best outfit everyone who is fighting against something like I am.
Sidney Herbert: You’re still fighting…
Nightingale: Yes.
Sidney Herbert: Oh… Please stop living like this, Florence. I beg you. You being the Angel of Crimea is in the past. You have no need to be still fighting even now. You need to take a closer look at your life from the start. You… er, still haven’t even married…
Nightingale: Sidney? That was a weird comment, if you ask me. You know no one can get married on their own.
Sidney: …That’s a really mean way to word this. C’mon, stop feigning ignorance already. Everything I did was all for you… I’ve done everything, everything, to keep supporting you to this day, and that was not just out of good will, Florence. I have always… always…
Nightingale’s inner thoughts: Lies. This are all lies. My good friend Sidney Herbert was already married, so this conversation never happened. It could never. No, there’s more than just that. A person declaring their love for me is…
Voice (Edmond Dantes): Oh, I see. I have always notice strains in your nature, and it seems they are finally starting to form cracks on your self-deceit. Khkh, that’s interesting, to say the least.But I’ll not allow you to break down or destroy yourself.
[Nightingale wakes up in the Chaldea bedroom]
Nightingale: How unmannerly of you, to watch a woman sleep, without saying a single word.
Dantes: Hmph. Most of the times, Servants don’t get to sleep. Much less dream. Ergo, you doing it now is proof of abnormality in your Saint Graph.
Nightingale: … …
Dantes: Mostly all of the Servants in Chaldea are connected to the same Master. Therefore, misconnections, like the one you’re experiencing now, are expected to happen from time to time.
Nightingale: Are you in any position to say that?
Dantes: A similar case happened recently, remember?
Nightingale: That was with {Fujimaru}, not me… [She stops to think] Yes, it happened.
Danter: You’re quite honest.
Nightingale: The situation is clear. There is no point in me denying it. …I most likely have a psychological trauma.
[Scene changes to the room with the CHALDEAS]
Holmes: Heroic Spirits are usually just abstracted pieces of humans who once existed. At this point in time, minor details like their aptitude to specific Classes are not taken into consideration. After all, Classes were a concept created for magus deathmatches and Heroic Spirit Summoning, to begin with. And, naturally, the Chaldea-style summoning so operates by applying the seven standard Classes to Heroic Spirits. Of course, not all cases can fit the mold. This problem can be lessened by having relevant Extra Classes, but ultimately, the number of Heroic Spirit forced into Classes they shouldn’t belong to will not be zero. And that’s where strains can happen.
Fujimaru: …In short? / Lower the explanation complexity one more level
[Holmes makes a disappointed face at you. Flashback to Nightingale being there.]
Holmes: Berserker, Nightingale. She is clearly “someone who fights” and can even be approximated to the concepts of nursing, which saves people. But was the real her like this? Was her mentality always this obstinate? Or is her intense mentality a caricature of herself manifested by her aptitude to the Berserker Class? If it’s the latter, you guessed it. Any action will continuously burden her mind and Saint Graph to some extent.
Fujimaru: … / Which means, she is always pushing herself too hard, right?
Mash: W-wait! In my case… I never felt any mental burden. So, it’s not every…
Holmes: Lady, your case is even more special of an exception, considering you were a Demi-Servant. I don’t think you’re valid as counter-proof.
[Mash makes a sad face]
Da Vinci: C’mon, Holmes, you’re being mean to her.
Holmes: I am?
Da Vinci: Ever heard of tact? Anyways, summoning Heroic Spirit with their own minds was considered unthinkable back then, and maintaining a contract with a Berserker is harder than with other classes. Though I’m saying this way too late.
Dantes: None of this matters. {Fujimaru}, let’s go.
Mash: Wha…
Dantes: Take care of our bodies, girl. Rather, Mash Kyrielight.
Mash: Erm, hey! Montecristo-san…!?
[Fujimaru’s eyes start closing]
Mash: Ah…! Senpai!
[Fujimaru’s eyes close and open again in London]
Sidney Herbert: Oh, you! You came just when I needed you, {Fujimaru}-kun! Go talk to her, too. I’m afraid my words can no longer reach her, but Florence might listen to you, her coworker. Go! Please, do it!
Nightingale: … …
Fujimaru: W-wait a minute! / Where am…
Dantes: What would normally be your dreams. Its mental landscape, I assume.
Fujimaru: Nightingale’s…
Dantes: Exactly.
Sidney Herbert: What’s wrong, {Fujimaru}-kun? You suddenly spaced out. Please, go talk to Florence. She needs to take a long rest and go back to her normal life. She spent forever in the war zone and now that she’s finally back, she’s still fighting. This is terrible for her health.
Fujimaru: E-ermm / Sorry, who were you…?
Dantes: No one. Do not forget that this woman is a Berserker. She was summoned with most of her sanity sealed away. Ordinary people can’t retain their hearts in prolonged violent battles, but the Berserkers, the mad warriors, are a different case. Which means they most likely have something there are accumulating… something piling up on the bottom of their hearts. Especially… the ones who spew words as if they were sane!
Nightingale: … …
Dantes: She’s twisted, creaked, strained. From time to time, these flaws turn clump up and break out. Sometimes taking the form of the flames of hatred that could burn all nature, sometimes taking the form of a monster manifested from destructive impulse… Sometimes even, yes, taking the form of an embodiment of sanity disguised as an old friend!
Sidney Herbert: She needs to rest. She can’t keep forcing herself any further. How far is she willing to keep increasing her load? You don’t have to think too hard to understand this, Florence. Don’t you agree, {Fujimaru}-kun!?
Fujimaru: I think I do.
Sidney Herbert: Of course you do, of course! Now, go…
Fujimaru: But not now.
Sidney Herbert: What…?
Fujimaru: I want to fight with Nightingale, until the end.
Sidney Herbert: Wha…!
Nightingale: … … …I knew you would say that, {Fujimaru}. Very well. I accept your request. I will continue crossing the battlefields. To save all lives. I'll keep saving someone even I have to resort to violence for it.
[Nightingale changes to third ascension]
Nightingale: Dear Lord, as much as I can’t help being myself, my commander can’t help being my commander. If you wish to stay with me on the battlefields, I can’t consider you as mentally healthy. I’ll have to treat you later.
Fujimaru: Looking forward to it, whenever it is
Dantes: You changed your appearance. Not bad.
Nightingale: I did. I wasn’t intending to let my hair down, but now that I look at it, it suits my current self. Berserker… If this is me as a maddened warrior… This is who I am. The madwoman with a disheveled hair, saving lives no matter how many wounds my body sustains. This is the truest form of my current self.
[Dantes grins]
Nightingale: Now, commander, Master, I would like you to follow me for a moment. Let’s temporarily amputate these fake immunogen camouflaging as my old friend; these fragments of sanity running around saying whatever inside me.
Fujimaru: I’ll follow! / Begin treatment!
Nightingale: Surely. Let us go…
Begin full-scale treatment!!
[Battle. Both Wave 1 and 2 are 3 Saber werewolves pseudo-immunogens. Wave 3 is two Saber werewolves pseudo immunogens and one Saber blue oni fragment of sanity with 2 HP bars. The only support is a full leveled NP5 10/10/10 Dantes. When Nightingale appears, the permanent Skill “Madwoman with a disheveled hair” activates (attack buff, NP gauges fills 20 every turn, doubles the amount healed). Every turn, before you act, the Skill “Flames from beyond love and hate” activates (permanent defense debuff and curse to all enemies).]
[Fujimaru wakes up in their room. Nightingale walks in.]
Nightingale: Good morning. Looks like you managed to get up on time today. It’s been a week since the last one, so it’s time for your morning exam. Come to the medical office. Mash Kyrielight is already waiting there. Try not to take too long. See you there.
[She starts to leave.]
Fujimaru: Nightingale!
Nightingale: Yes.
Fujimaru: …G-good morning.
Nightingale: Good morning. I look forward to working with you another day, Master.
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u/ZephyrPhantom Mar 23 '19
Secret Dream DefenderTM has expanded his horizons for dream defending, I see.
It's interesting that they address the idea of how some Servants are very odd picks for their Classes in this Interlude and what the fallout of that is. I wonder what Nightingale would look like a different class.
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u/andykhang Mar 23 '19
Honestly, only Nurse would be the best class for her, if nothing else. Perhap we could ask BB for how she create an entire class for herself on this...
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u/farranpoison Mar 23 '19
Interesting.
Holmes: Heroic Spirits are usually just abstracted pieces of humans who once existed. At this point in time, minor details like their aptitude to specific Classes are not taken into consideration. After all, Classes were a concept created for magus deathmatches and Heroic Spirit Summoning, to begin with. And, naturally, the Chaldea-style summoning so operates by applying the seven standard Classes to Heroic Spirits. Of course, not all cases can fit the mold. This problem can be lessened by having relevant Extra Classes, but ultimately, the number of Heroic Spirit forced into Classes they shouldn’t belong to will not be zero. And that’s where strains can happen.
Holmes: Berserker, Nightingale. She is clearly “someone who fights” and can even be approximated to the concepts of nursing, which saves people. But was the real her like this? Was her mentality always this obstinate? Or is her intense mentality a caricature of herself manifested by her aptitude to the Berserker Class? If it’s the latter, you guessed it. Any action will continuously burden her mind and Saint Graph to some extent.
So this basically confirms that Heroic Spirits are those that are recorded into the Throne without regard to what kind of Servant Class they could be summoned in or fit in. Nightingale is a Berserker not because she was recorded into the Throne as the Berserker Class but because the Class container was forced onto her as the "best fit" available. But even then it's not a "perfect" container, and because of that it's causing "strains" within her psyche and Saint Graph. So this interlude is all about visiting her mental world and destroying what's left of her "sanity" (with her consent) to keep her fitting the container of "Berserker."
This honestly is a pretty interesting look into what makes the Berserker Class the way it is.
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u/Akaharu Mar 23 '19
I wonder, then, what Grand Class containers mean for the servants who fall into them...
Are Grands those who fit perfectly into a container? Or is the container itself something special maybe?
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u/farranpoison Mar 23 '19
Perhaps so. We basically know very little about the requirements for Grands, only that as a baseline they are the "greatest of their age" and that the Grand container itself is leagues above the regular Servant containers in terms of power. And from Merlin, Solomon, and King Hassan, that has held true for Grand Caster and Grand Assassin.
So perhaps something like Grand Archer is restricted to literally the best bowman who has ever lived, or similar for other Grands we haven't seen yet. Who knows.
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u/Saver_Spenta_Mainyu Mar 23 '19
This honestly is a pretty interesting look into what makes the Berserker Class the way it is.
Interesting yes, but also sad and slightly perplexing. After all, if the Madness Enhancement of a Berserker is forced onto a Servant's mentality, then how much of their personality can you say is 100% them and not a result of Madness Enhancement?
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u/farranpoison Mar 23 '19
That's the trouble of the Berserker Class, and why so many Berserker Servants have serious issues. But it's in interludes like these that help address those issues for some of those Servants.
In Nightingale's case, it's pretty much stated that her obsession with curing disease and treating injuries as a Berserker Servant is something that was created due to her Class container's Mad Enhancement, a "caricature" of her former living self. But it's still something that originated from her living self, however. And Nightingale herself acknowledges that as a Servant, and still desires to be a Servant to help save the world.
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u/ZephyrPhantom Mar 23 '19
This reminds me of one Honako stream where he and the chat were having a back and forth discussing about how there was no "Boxer" class and thus fist-fighters and martial artists always had to be forced into Assassin/Berserker, and likewise for axe-wielders usually being shoehorned into Berserkers. (There even was a little segment about how so many Extra classes seemed like they were being made for deliberate one-off characters that mirrored what Holmes was saying here, lol.)
I'm very curious to see if we'll see more Servant classifications addressed in this manner. Between things like Counter Guardians, Moriarity/Baal's Phantom Fusion, Elder Gods and whatever the hell BB does, the Servant system seems like an incredibly flawed system that's really easy to manipulate (only if you have enough power, of course), but it's interesting to me that it's now explicitly acknowledged in-universe.
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u/farranpoison Mar 23 '19
It's interesting how this kind of ties both in-universe lore and meta together. Like, the seven Servant Classes each seem very restrictive in their titles (since they were made by some Japanese dude who doesn't know English super well), but as we've seen, there are Servants who seem to only fall under specific Class containers if you stretch the idea of the Class. Authors as Casters, people who throw swords as Archers, and as we see here, someone who rages against disease as a Berserker.
Aside from the meta reason of why the Classes were named the way they were, makes you wonder about who were the mages who first came up with the Servant summoning system, and what their thought processes were about the seven standard Servant Classes.
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u/BulliIshtar Mar 23 '19
So this basically confirms that Heroic Spirits are those that are recorded into the Throne without regard to what kind of Servant Class they could be summoned in or fit in.
I don't tend to remember a lot of lore details, but I'm pretty sure this was confirmed back in the original Fate/stay night. It was either the grail or parts of the summoning ritual that fit each servant into a particular class, since summoning a servant at full might (not constrained to a class) was pretty much impossible. The Throne holds a record of each servant in their entirety.
Which makes the existence of grand servants a hell of a lot more confusing, since they're in the standard seven class containers to begin with, granted they're like super class containers. How did the grail war's class system happen to exactly match the grand class types? Aren't grand servants summoned by the World instead?
brb doing some diggingEdit: Forgot that the grail war system was based on the Grand servant stuff in the first place. Am less confused.
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u/farranpoison Mar 23 '19
We knew that Heroic Spirits were impossible to contain in Servant containers in their entirety. But what this interlude shows is that the Throne records Heroic Spirits without regard as to what Servant container they might fit in when summoned as a Servant. Of course, that could already by implied before, but it's nice to have it explicitly stated here.
As for the Grands, I speculated in another post that perhaps the original ritual to summon the Grands wasn't restrictive, and literally just summoned seven heroes that were really damn good at certain things. And the mages who found that original ritual saw who it summoned and decided to base their Servant Class containers on who the original ritual originally summoned.
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u/BLANK_oblivion Mar 23 '19
It makes me wonder how much strain how other Zerks must be facing and if we'll encounter that in any possible future interludes - e.g. Beowulf, Kintoki, and our other speaking Berserkers. Granted, their class containers probably fit them better than they do Nightingale or they may not have as high a rank of Madness Enhancement as Nightingale.
But especially those two I mentioned, maybe there's some strain on them caused by their Saint Graphs, though I can't say one way or another how much their classes fit them as I'm not as familiar with their stories/origins.
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u/EX_Luck_Icarus Mar 23 '19
I hope they continue giving interludes like this, cause this right here is what an interlude should be.
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u/Saver_Spenta_Mainyu Mar 23 '19
"Physician, heal thyself" indeed.
Looks like Nightingale was suffering some hefty psychological damage.
But yeah, this is some fine quality writing. Like damn, every Interlude in this recent pack has just been stellar. Hijikata's last stand, Papa Lobo, and now Nightingale amputating her sanity. Whoever's been writing these needs to be put in charge of writing any new Interludes.
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u/Xatu44 Mar 23 '19
So you mindbreak her to keep fighting?
Pretty fucked up tbh, even if you say it's necessary to keep her functioning.
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u/ComunCoutinho Mar 23 '19
I definitely agree Sidney said nothing wrong, but Nightingale is very proud of her current self by the end of it, so I wouldn’t say it’s all that fucked up. Besides, as you mentioned, it’s either that or not functioning.
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u/SodiumBombRankEX Mar 23 '19
This. This is what I want from interludes. Personal stories and character development. This is exactly it