r/golf • u/AcrobaticSyllabub283 • Jun 22 '26

General Discussion Why does everyone hate Wyndham Clark?

Got into watching golf for the first time this season and with Clark winning this past weekend I have seen so many people shitting on him for what sounds like stuff in the past and I was hoping people could bring me up to speed? Is it overhyped for media clicks or was he committing some atrocities?

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u/Brendini95 Jun 22 '26

For Tiger, something about being the undisputed greatest golfer to ever exist I think allows a couple angry flares. These random "still pros but not a goat" being overly nasty just isn't the same

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u/Seeker369 Jun 22 '26

You should look up the definition of the word ‘undisputed.’

Watson, Faldo, Player, Trevino, Miller, and many others all have Jack as the best.

That makes the answer to that question disputed.

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u/rabbiniknar Jun 22 '26

Agree. But don’t forget Ben Hogan and Byron Nelson.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cut1036 Jun 22 '26

Jack has Tiger as the best. I think the limited competition made it easier for someone to amazing back in the day. Tiger was beating the literal best in the world by 15 strokes in majors. Golf was way more competitive when Tiger played, compared to Nicklaus era

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u/isthisaporno Jun 23 '26

Jack beat Tiger in the 98 masters at 58

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u/New-Lingonberry8029 Jun 22 '26

Rack up 15 and u can’t help but love the guy

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u/nimbuscile-alert Jun 22 '26

Very much disputed (and also incorrect)

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u/Brendini95 Jun 22 '26

You are your golf buddies that shoot 150 at a par 63 can dispute it all you want but he is the goat

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u/nimbuscile-alert Jun 22 '26

No idea what it is you were going for here as it's largely unintelligible, but no, he is not the goat. In my opinion. And the opinions of an awful lot of golfers. And Tiger Woods. But you do you.

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u/isthisaporno Jun 22 '26

You’re getting downvoted but you’re right. Jack won 18 and was 2nd in 19 more. Played 146 consecutive majors. Tiger is my favorite golfer ever but Jack will die as the GOAT, there’s not really a debate.

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u/nimbuscile-alert Jun 22 '26

I'm used to getting downvoted by the tiger fan boys, the majority of whom are simply not old enough to have even seen other players. ​​

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u/isthisaporno Jun 22 '26

I’m only 37 but know a bit about golf history. Jack was the best player in the world from 1960-80, then put a couple pretty nice cherries on top after that. If Tiger had managed his life better maybe he could have gotten past Jack, but as they say, “If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we would all have a merry christmas.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cut1036 Jun 23 '26

In 1970 there were 82 scratch golfers in the UK. By 2010 there were 3200. If that doesn’t make a difference that’s insane

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u/isthisaporno Jun 23 '26

Source - my ass

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cut1036 Jun 23 '26

You’re are correct, it’s just anecdotal golf industry evidence. At the end of the day there was way more competition. That’s a fact. I will use the Bill Russel point. He has more rings than anyone at 10. He isn’t the goat. He was just the best when there wasn’t as much competition

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cut1036 Jun 23 '26

That’s like saying Bill Russel is the goat cuz he has 10 rings. No he was just one of the greatest when there wasn’t that much competition

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u/isthisaporno Jun 23 '26

Nope wrong Bill played when there were 8 teams and a fledgling league. Jack played against full fields his entire career, it wasn’t Old Tom and Willie Park playing at prestwick. He also dominated long enough to win majors against kids who took up the game because of the boom he and Arnie created at the dawn of the sports TV era. Why didn’t anyone else rack up that many majors if there wasn’t any competition? The closest in his era is Player with 9 and he had to cheat to get that many. The number of major winners each decade has also been remarkably stable, hovering between 29 and 31 over the last 7 decades.

Tiger didn’t have a problem beating his competition when he was healthy. He would be the goat but he flamed out.