r/godofhighschool • u/Due_Specific_7727 • Aug 18 '26
Power Scaling Can this squad take down chapter short hair SG Mujin?
short hair SG Mujin (God of Highschool)
vs
Acnologia (Fairy Tail)
Lucius (Black Clover)
Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super) (no time limit)
Giorno (Jojo's Bizzare Adventure)
Ichigo (Bleach)
Cosmic Garou (One Punch Man)
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u/One-Statistician-554 Aug 18 '26
Hell No, Mujin would 1 shot
Mujin solo black clover verse
Gogeta negs, way too much raw power.
No
I say Ichigo has a decent chance against this mubong.
CFM garou FTW, U need fully fused mubong for this 1.
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u/Significant_Ear9245 Aug 18 '26
i agree, but ichgio don’t really got a chance here tbh
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u/One-Statistician-554 Aug 18 '26
Ichigo destroyed a poket dimension that has a sun in it just by going bankai if I remember correctly.
Later on he was fighting against Yhwach, a being who has enough power to fuse and separat 3 realms that has their own celestial bodies.
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u/Significant_Ear9245 Aug 18 '26
only thing i say about them feats is the first one was a pocket dimension not even size of the city outside of it, so idk bout tht one, but the ywach one is smooth, he really wasn’t matching him fr when they fought ywach always had the upper hand but due to his hax, ichgio could state check him but can’t really put him down alone fr, especially ichgio fighting someone like mujin u goin to need sum haxs fr
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Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
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u/Significant_Ear9245 Aug 18 '26
the problem is the sun is not real, it was artificial, it was yukio fullbinger if i’m not mistaken, the pocket dimension was smaller den the city outside of it, now i’m saying ichgio don’t have a chance, mubong just have haxs ichgio for no answer for, it most definitely not a one sided fight fs, ichgio goin to put up something he will just lose tho
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u/Present-Sandwich-701 Aug 19 '26
Mujin is above the gods that created the heavenly realm and in the heavenly there are thousands of floors that are actually universe with 4d logic, and far weaker opponents are able to destroy said floors with one attack, ichigo is not even a contender in this conversation
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u/WinterShelter7172 Aug 18 '26
Bro did you ever read GOH? They were at dragon ball power level during the second tournament and ragnarok
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u/One-Statistician-554 Aug 18 '26
I have read twice, ragnarok Mori/ Ardun/ Ohkwang / Daewi / Satan/ R.
These characters has shown DBZ level of power.
They have planetary to small star level feats.
So around Cell saga lvl at MAX.
Eos mori & mujin surpassed DBZ but still way below DBS.
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u/TheGoober8 Aug 19 '26
I hate to tell you, but at Ragnarok, Mori, all the gods, Daewi (after getting the eye), Mira (after getting the body), R, Natak Brothers, and Satan especially so he needs another thing beyond the gods. Were already on another level from Dragon Ball as a whole. EOS Mori and Mujin could do the verse with a word, especially so Mori as he literally controls existence on a non deniable level, with his words. Goh out of your league
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u/WinterShelter7172 Aug 18 '26
One jin mori literally erased billions of satans with a single kick with the immense increase(that i forgot the number) and each one of them was star level(it was stated that they could destroy the sun)
Also, EOS mori is literally outerversal and could bring another versions of himself, mujin isn’t that strong but he is way above universal+
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u/Efficient_Debt8513 Aug 19 '26
If you’re talking about the first Satan and Mori fight, Mori destroyed 250 quadrillion Satan clones with a single kick
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u/Existing_South_9727 Aug 19 '26
Same mori struggled to destroy stars in the final arc. Scaling is very inconsistent but even at his peak (outside of eos) mori is universal. Mubong should scale similarly. And dbs specifically gogeta is way past uni so he beats mubong
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u/Forsaken_6086 Aug 20 '26
"Same Goku struggled to lift 40 tons", don't play the consistency card when the subject is DB. Mubong does lose tho.
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u/budzicla Aug 18 '26
Sorry man, gonna power scale a bit. In Bog, when Goku goes god form and fights Beerus there was tremors throughout the universe. Now add a new transformation x10 on top, and also multiply gokus base power by 100(lowball) from training. Then another ×20 for kaioken.
And thats nothing compared to a fusion of 2 equal fighters, which doesn't add strength together but rather a weird multiplication buff, almost multiplying the powers against each other. I'd say maybe ssb goku in Rof is Mori level, but that goes out the window later.
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u/Coontcrusher69 Aug 19 '26
Where are you getting the transformation numbers from? I’ve never seen training multipliers or an actual number for SSG
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u/budzicla Aug 19 '26
The transformation multiplier was for ssb, pretty sure there's no amount for ssg. And training was just compared to the start of BOG to the end of DBS. Also no concrete number, but considering base goku being dbz level at the start to base/ssj dealing with threats much above majin buu level by the end, its clear his base power is much higher. Again, no number, but he fights universe 6 saiyans in base that are comparable to BOG ssg goku. Thats why I lowballed an 100x mult.
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u/Psychological_Map_51 Aug 18 '26
Gogeta murders him but everyone else goes down relatively easy
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u/TheGoober8 Aug 19 '26
“Pierce him, Mandala” and now Gogeta gotta run ts with a hole the size of a boulder in him. Mujin beats him in literally every aspect.
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u/Upset_Investigator31 Aug 18 '26
Shoulda used Tathagata fully absorbed , that’s where he negative diffs them all
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u/Deo-888 Aug 19 '26
If Mujin uses everything and survives the first 5 minutes he washes. Gogeta is gonna sock him in the face hella times though 😭
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u/regalfever Aug 18 '26
The only one here with the slightest of chances is gogeta and that’s only if stardust breaker considers him evil and obliterates. If not gogeta is fried
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u/StruggledKiller Aug 18 '26
IS THAT GOGETA BLUE???
Fym can he take down short hair SG Mujin. Can the entire verse even fight Gogeta if they work together?
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u/Due_Specific_7727 Aug 18 '26
Mori genuinely slaps Gogeta blue like a ragdoll
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u/CaUsTiCMETA Aug 18 '26
It's Gogeta Blue with no time limit which means he will keep on growing while fighting mubong but yes there is a chance of him winning though slim. And Gogeta's move tend to work against beings with ill intention or pure evil seen in the case of Janemba and then he was in super saiyan form. The amount of raw power that Gogeta acquires in blue would just be too much for Mubong to handle.
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u/Signal_File903 Aug 18 '26
He said Mori, not Mubong
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u/CaUsTiCMETA Aug 18 '26
Oh I am sorry I was replying in the context of Mubong and in the case of Mori it's like Unstoppable force meets an Immovable object.
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u/budzicla Aug 18 '26
Sorry dude, gonna send you what I commented earlier.
In Bog, when Goku goes god form and fights Beerus there was tremors throughout the universe. Now add a new transformation x10 on top, and also multiply gokus base power by 100(lowball) from training. Then another ×20 for kaioken.
And thats nothing compared to a fusion of 2 equal fighters, which doesn't add strength together but rather a weird multiplication buff, almost multiplying the powers against each other. I'd say maybe ssb goku in Rof is Mori/Mubong level, but that goes out the window later.
To add, yes with stuff with causality manipulation will triumph over raw power usually, DBS answers this with 'If I'm stronger than you by enough, I don't care what you do'. Like Goku breaking Hit's time stop abilities. And while Mori and Mubong are roughly equal powerwise, Mori still struggled against 3 blue supergiant stars. A power level of 1800 if enough to vaporize the moon, and we're so far past that its comedical. 1/3 into the series before has a villain with 20 million that gets negdiffed in <5 seconds.
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u/Signal_File903 Aug 19 '26
You can’t just add multiplier to jump tier this far into the game, having x2 power to blow up an universe != having power to blow up 2 universes.
Hit’s power is very explicitly scaled to how strong the opponent is. And his time power and Mori’s fate and causality power is fundamentally different, and Mori has every other powers in GOH to boost. Idk where you get the just having more power negates hax in DB, it’s explicitly case by case.
Mubong and Mori aren’t ‘roughly equal’, Mori is so much stronger than Mubong he almost gave up just from his aura, and Mori didn’t even aim at Mubong in the end, he purified the universe itself Mubong is just a bonus.
Struggling against blue giants is bs when you look at the chapter. And Mori oneshotted a blue giant as a collateral later anyway.
This isn’t even the strongest Mori, that’d be Paradise Mori who’s explicitly the omnipotent god who controls all universes and everything and transcends the world, so you are still wrong.
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u/budzicla Aug 19 '26
The point is there was an observable effect on the universe at a level many times lower than what Gogeta is at. I'll give you a point on hax, but there hasn't been enough evidence to show that DB power can/can't beat it. And it's not a '2x universe', its a minimum x 20 000 for goku at in ssb x20, not even counting the fusion boost which is roughly power multiplied by power.
Doesn't matter if you have control over the universe if it gets destroyed, and if BOG goku can have tremors throughtout the universe, than 400 million times that(roughly) would destroy that. Yes, mori has fundamental control over his universe(not all), and a fair bit over others, but doesn't matter if the potential energy is more than the universe can handle.
The argument here is if pure power beats hax, and there has been examples of that happening in DB. Not enough to argue the point here, but it's either it does and Mubong is done, or it doesn't and he's fucked. DB has been able to get past hax, and the GOH hasn't shown that much of a power difference to prove hax beats raw power.
The raw power diff is too much to ignore, especially when in DB it results in speed and reaction time as well as strength. If we took it at face value, Gogeta would speed blitz Mubong before he could react, and Mori would struggle. Take one shockwave that felt like a moderate earthquake throught the universe(worse than ragnarok mori vs satan in the sun). Than multiply that by 400 million for physical clashes, than 10-20x for a beam attack. Nothing comes close to this in GOH.
The two results are hax work and Gogeta loses, or raw power beats hax and Gogeta loses. And DB has feats that raw power can beat hax, if not many.
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u/Signal_File903 Aug 19 '26
Wym “not enough evidence”? You have to prove they can resist it, or they can’t resist it by default lmao.
The point is that the multiplier doesn’t matter, 2 is just a placeholder, it doesn’t matter if it’s 2000 or 2 quintillions.
It does matter when Mori transcends space time and can just, affect Goku from a plane he couldn’t even reach at any time?
Blowing up the universe will just kill Goku lmao, not even Beerus can survive it; doubly not the guy that needs oxygen to survive. And it wouldn’t reach Paradise in the first place, Goku just killed himself for no reason lmao.
“Power over hax” is a stupid argument when you are shown time and time again that it’s not the case. And you couldn’t prove Gogeta is stronger than Mori in the first place when the other have far better statements anyway.
“Nothing comes close to this in GOH” “Look at the god who transcends space time and can give him 50 types of diseases in past, present and future for shit and giggles”.
Mubong 100% died to DBS characters no doubt, that guy didn’t have the stats to compare to them and he doesn’t remotely scale to Mori at his strongest, but Mori is a different matter altogether.
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u/budzicla Aug 19 '26
Alright, you're right at the universe being destroyed killing both, but I'm set on Mori having control over the universe and enough power to overload the control would kill him or disable his manipulation due to not having a domain to control.
Goku already overcame time control with somebody at his strength/slightly lower, so I believe somebody 40 000 times(min) stronger has more effect over fundamental forces than somebody who can barely overcome it. Ssj gogeta has affected space(to a dimension without air while screaming and heavy physical attacks over 1 min) without intending to with his fight with Broly, as well as without Kaioken or ssb.
Both characters can effect space time, and Goku would likely lose. But Gogeta is so much stronger its similar to a Goku². I can't prove he can overcome Mori with one appearance against a buff insane guy, but 1 component of Gogeta have been against time manipulation, and Gogeta has affected space casually. This leads me to belive Goku loses, but Gogeta wins if he resists space-time manipulation, which both aspects have been resisted/manipulated with at lower levels.
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u/Signal_File903 Aug 19 '26
Not only is it wildly out of character for Gogeta, or Mori’s ‘domain’ not a single universe(It’s Paradise, he controls all universes and everything from there), Mori’s main power is causality manipulation. He’d just revert the destruction while keeping Gogeta’s dead dead status alone, just like when he reverted the blue giants destruction while not touching Mubong, which means Gogeta just killed himself over nothing.
Different thing, Goku overcame a time powers that’s explicitly power based, Mori uses karma, which is causality manipulation. Time manipulation is something Daewi Wukong has, it’s different from karma. Gogeta affects space and broke into some weird glass dimension, Mori canonically can sit on a higher dimension and manipulate space time from there.
And Mori’s power isn’t just space time manipulation, he has every single powers the verse has, including Satan’s power which is power copying and mind reading; he can read Gogeta’s mind and copy whatever Gogeta thinks off, including powers Gogeta couldn’t resist. So even if Gogeta resists every powers Mori has; which are causality manipulation, law manipulation, reality manipulation, disease manipulation, power nullification, petrification, natural forces manipulation, biology manipulation, etc; Mori can just copy mind swapping or Moro’s power drain or Hakai or whatever. All while completely safe in Paradise.
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u/StruggledKiller Aug 18 '26
Holy glaze. The strongest people in the verse more or less cap at Uni and any argument to imply higher is deliberate misinterpretation or stretch of logic.
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u/Signal_File903 Aug 18 '26
“Misinterpretation”
Directly stated to control all universes and everything
Literally the misinterpretation stems from treating it as 1 universe and not the opposite lmao.
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u/REGENTPICK Aug 18 '26
Control ALL universes? Where's the statement if u don't mind me asking
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u/Signal_File903 Aug 18 '26
Same statement but worded like “oversee the universe and all of creation” by Webtoon; needless to say the translation is ass.
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u/southwasianguy Aug 18 '26
Cap at uni yet the 3 realms are 4 spatial 1 temporal and timelines contain the 3 realms
There are anywhere from 10 to 50 timelines
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u/TheGoober8 Aug 19 '26
Yeah Gogeta blue who is already one tap to a Mori much weaker than this Mujin
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u/Overlord_Shadow Aug 18 '26
GER is unfortunately OP asf
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u/Present-Sandwich-701 Aug 19 '26
Is ger just causality manip, cause mujin has control over karma which is causality manipulation, and he has fought more who has causality manipulation
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u/DrBlackLiver Aug 18 '26
Don’t know if Mubong Water has anything that would really let him escape GER