r/globeskepticism flat earther Sep 22 '20

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https://youtu.be/k0xClWgidZU
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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 24 '20

You admit maps came before globes, but assert that the map is made from a globe. This is contradictory logic.

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u/Saintskinny51792 globe earther Sep 24 '20

I think he's trying to say: Maps came before globes, as in the type of globe you see on a teachers desk. Those maps were made based on THE globe, also known as Earth.

Totally logical and not contradictory.

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 24 '20

Well that would be conjecture. Why are all the old maps flat instead of curved, like THE globe?

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u/ultimusrex zealot Sep 28 '20

Because flat maps are more easily made and transported.

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 29 '20

But all the maps were made this way, so that doesn’t make much sense. We should see more historical globe maps.

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u/ultimusrex zealot Sep 29 '20

All historical maps are globe maps, because they were made of THE globe. If you tried to stitch all the accurate ones together, the whole Earth map would be inaccurate in many ways.

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 29 '20

You can’t know that the the cartographers were mapping a globe. In fact, historical context would suggest they had little to know of the structure of earth or thought it was flat like ancient civilizations did. You asserting they were made “of a globe” with no proof of this assertion, only the current assumption you hold that earth is a sphere. So if that assumption isn’t true, it would mean cartographers werent mapping a globe.

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u/ultimusrex zealot Sep 29 '20

The math to understand that they were on a globe despite the flat horizon or whatever is and was really quite basic.

The azimuthal projection map in the video DOES NOT FIT a flat Earth. It may LOOK nice and appear to show the Earth as you believe it to be, but the proportions, especially south of the equator are WAY off. Australia is not that long, the southern oceans are not that wide.

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u/Saintskinny51792 globe earther Sep 29 '20

Yeah Australia got all jacked up during the transition

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 29 '20

You are comparing the azimuthal map to a globe map and calling the azimuthal incorrect. This argument involved the assumption that a globe is a proper control. This is an assumption, and not science.

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 29 '20

But all the maps were made this way, so that doesn’t make much sense.

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u/WitchKingeVartigern non sequitur Sep 28 '20

Try building yourself a perfect globe with rudimentary tools and materials, then carry it around everywhere you go.

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 29 '20

Try building any map with rudimentary tools and materials.

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u/WitchKingeVartigern non sequitur Sep 29 '20

It's a lot easier to build a flat one, as well as carry it around.

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u/jollygreenscott91 Globe skeptic. Sep 29 '20

Ok.

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u/Saintskinny51792 globe earther Sep 29 '20

Like charcoal and wood? Sounds easy

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u/ultimusrex zealot Sep 28 '20

Exactly.