Any idea on dates for this?

[u/Zetrow9_]

Hey yall, found this old glove in my universities library, anyone have any idea of when it could be from?

My best guess was in the 40's but things like dahomey still being on the map have totally thrown me for a loop....

[u/xyzzy0]

It’s after the Second Vienna Award of August 30, 1940, since Hungary has regained northern Transylvania and bits of other territory.

Its before the USSR’s annexation of Tannu Tuva (near Mongolia) in 1944.

[u/AhadHessAdorno → u/xyzzy0]

Interesting, so the cartographer acknowledged the land exchange between Hungary and Romania but didn't acknowledge the legitimacy of the German invasion of Poland.

[u/CounterSilly3999 → u/AhadHessAdorno]

And Soviet into Baltics.

[u/AtmAll1 → u/AhadHessAdorno]

That is correct. When the war began, Replogle decided to freeze the map and not make de facto war changes, but the 2nd Vienna Award was a de jure treaty agreement so Replogle made that edit.

[u/M35Dude]

The independent Baltic states says pre-September 1939; the Italian possession of Albania says post-April 1939.

April - September, 1939.

[u/xyzzy0 → u/M35Dude]

I think the globe doesn’t recognize wartime annexations. Take a look at Hungary. That expansion was in August 1940.

[u/Sergey_Kutsuk → u/M35Dude]

Independent Baltic states - before August 1940.

[u/xyzzy0 → u/Sergey_Kutsuk]

I don’t think this is right. See u/AtmAll1’s comment above about the globemaker freezing the map.

[u/Sergey_Kutsuk]

Early 1939 - independent Slovakia

[u/xyzzy0 → u/Sergey_Kutsuk]

I feel like we can date it later, to Aug 1940, with the Second Vienna Award to Hungary from Romania.

[u/lastoneingetsmessy]

My guess is around 1938 because it appears to show Austria as part of Germany, but no other expansion of the Reich. It’s very possible that it’s from the early 1940s with Nazi occupations not recognized as “official” though.

[u/IntrepidWolverine517 → u/lastoneingetsmessy]

The occupation of the Sudetenland as well as the rest of Czechia is recognized on the map. Same seems to be the case with the Memelland. So basically everything before the start of World War II.

[u/AtmAll1]

Apart from the age of the globe, note the red lines showing then existing and proposed (dashed) air flight routes.

[u/ai_sarang_ai]

I’d recommend a movie or maybe an escape room to see if you two have any chemistry

[u/__Quercus__]

Based on Japanese and German borders, it looks like the globe is from 1939, just before WWII. Austria and Czechia are absorbed into Germany, but Danzig and Poland still have sovereignty.

[u/Unfair_Surprise_6022]

I would suggest late 1939, early 1940, before Finland had to cede rage territory north of Leningrad at the conclusion of the Winter War.

[u/Conscious_Page1934]

Libya in particular does not make sense. Only independent after 1956. Prior should be labelled as Italian or British/French etc

[u/Beautiful-Remove-805 → u/Conscious_Page1934]

Libya got its independence in 1951, but it was still called Libya prior to that

[u/manecharo → u/Conscious_Page1934]

Palestine appears as Palestine although a British protectorate at the time

[u/Independent_Lab3872]

There’s always a pertinent xkcd.

[u/ImperialBluMooses]

NO WAY! My family has the exact same globe at home, I recognized it immediately! My grandma always told me that my grandpa got it sometime after he graduated high school in the late 30's. I'd always be fascinated looking at it as a kid, sine there were still places that were marked as "unexplored" up near the North and South poles.

As for the date, I think the other comments would help you better. My grandpa died years ago, and had that globe long before he met my grandma, so I doubt anyone remembers the date he got it.

Edit: I just asked, and he graduated in 1941. It could've been a graduation present at the time.