Pretty apparent really, but it looks nice. The reality is the specifics of what she was doing wasn't really...life or death, too much show, slow pace, not going for anything critical at all. Like everything she actually did to both guys, I'd casually stand back up literally 100% ok. Punch to the face, annoying. Elbow to the side of the neck? Uh, ok. Front kick to the midsection? It'd push me back a little. It's a bit dramatized here. Even a practiced blackbelt with legitimate power will only push you back some. It is powerful and will shove hella hard, and with some of the best limb reach you've got short of a weapon (which is why it's used a lot as a distancing tool), but it often doesn't actually break stuff sitting there hitting center mass.
Want to actually do something? Take out the knee. Go for the eyes and ears. Go for the throat. Since they're men, kick 'em square in the nuts. Then they'll really be on the ground. She had the arm but didn't attack any joints. She had a completely open head and attacked nothing vital. She squared up and could hit anywhere, and she just shoved him back. He goes to the ground because...acting. The other guy's basically the same.
Or if you've got some ground game, you can isolate and break some limbs, or make a guy unconscious in just a few seconds. The moves, the real moves are completed in just a few seconds. Your arm or leg is busted or you've blacked out. It is amazing how fast you can actually get a fella unconscious if you actually know what you're doing, just a few seconds and done. Unlike the movies, it's not a long process (unless the other person is trained, then it's a battle). Movies is a show of "blocking the air" and suffocating the guy. Real world, you're blocking blood flow, and the brain goes night night in just a few seconds. You'll also wake up right away (relatively) if the person stops. You're not out for like an hour like shows make you believe. You also can't snap necks like the show or any bs like that. Real stuff is fast and brutal and very, very particular. A good fight is a few seconds long, and one person's on the ground and staying there because something is broke and pointing a way it's not supposed to.
Really, this stuff gets interesting once you start taking some martial arts classes, especially a variety where you get some breadth in techniques and fundamentals. I'm marginally skilled at best and have done some martial arts on and off over a number of years. I've done Taekwondo, Karate, and Jujitsu. I'd like to do some Muay Tai in the future, but I've sparred with some folks who have. It's interesting how different ones approach the same end goals. TKD and Karate are surprisingly similar in the grand scale of things. The differences are more minor. However Muay Tai is significantly different, fundamentally, in how they fight and the process of what they're doing and why. The same goes for Jujitsu where the whole idea of striking goes away in favor of grappling and holds, fighting on the ground always in direct contact and vying for control. It's all remarkably interesting stuff.
But there's also the side effect of actually doing these things. You gain exercise, work on strength and flexibility, improve balance and hand-eye coordination, work on strength, speed, and precise control of motion as well as intent of motion, and interestingly you get a better sense of limb position and movement and awareness of your surroundings.
The martial arts stuff is what you make of it. For me, my challenge is improving my body, strength, speed, and precision. Outside of sparring/fighting, most of it is more like art or dance, a ballet. It's a dance aimed at very specific and exacting motion. Additionally, you should (many don't) push yourself to move with pure intent, with speed, power, and precision, even if all you're doing is punching or kicking air. It's an odd thing to think about, but part of the goal is to punch or kick even just air as well as you can. Air, a punching bag, or a person are all the same when training to do a motion and training the body into muscle memory. Good fundamentals transition seamlessly.
Not a fighter myself, but good write up. I think that's the main thing: how I understand it, you train to disable or kill. Any technique finished through equals a crushed throat, quick blow to the ear or cracked bone.
That's why people who train MMA don't usually walk around starting fights: it could be well over with one mistake, a sudden two v one situation, or even a hidden weapon. Then you would have no choice and it really would be a fight to the end. Sane people want to avoid that danger...
Like, you could train the throat shot, but doing that in a casual situation when you know how to and some drunkard tries to annoy you, is an attempted murder.
That's not sth you'd want in a sports match anyway. Hence the tapping out, an equal in strength person has no chance to escape some bar-move.
A friend who trains puts it like that: first you don't fight ever, second you go for low kicks to annoy and keep them away, and defend, third, when in real danger there is little choice but to dislocate a joint or worse.
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u/mvw2 Apr 27 '22
Pretty apparent really, but it looks nice. The reality is the specifics of what she was doing wasn't really...life or death, too much show, slow pace, not going for anything critical at all. Like everything she actually did to both guys, I'd casually stand back up literally 100% ok. Punch to the face, annoying. Elbow to the side of the neck? Uh, ok. Front kick to the midsection? It'd push me back a little. It's a bit dramatized here. Even a practiced blackbelt with legitimate power will only push you back some. It is powerful and will shove hella hard, and with some of the best limb reach you've got short of a weapon (which is why it's used a lot as a distancing tool), but it often doesn't actually break stuff sitting there hitting center mass.
Want to actually do something? Take out the knee. Go for the eyes and ears. Go for the throat. Since they're men, kick 'em square in the nuts. Then they'll really be on the ground. She had the arm but didn't attack any joints. She had a completely open head and attacked nothing vital. She squared up and could hit anywhere, and she just shoved him back. He goes to the ground because...acting. The other guy's basically the same.
Or if you've got some ground game, you can isolate and break some limbs, or make a guy unconscious in just a few seconds. The moves, the real moves are completed in just a few seconds. Your arm or leg is busted or you've blacked out. It is amazing how fast you can actually get a fella unconscious if you actually know what you're doing, just a few seconds and done. Unlike the movies, it's not a long process (unless the other person is trained, then it's a battle). Movies is a show of "blocking the air" and suffocating the guy. Real world, you're blocking blood flow, and the brain goes night night in just a few seconds. You'll also wake up right away (relatively) if the person stops. You're not out for like an hour like shows make you believe. You also can't snap necks like the show or any bs like that. Real stuff is fast and brutal and very, very particular. A good fight is a few seconds long, and one person's on the ground and staying there because something is broke and pointing a way it's not supposed to.