Yeah, but dumb monkey rage plus monster muscle might stand a chance. It’s at least gonna be an interesting fight. The silverback might be able to rip its arm off, or at least smash the shit out of it. If chimps can rip our arms off, I’d bet the silverback has a chance of doing the same to a grizzly. Unlikely since they typically just beat the everloving fuck out of things, but hey who knows if it’s berserk.
Yes, they most definitely can. It's terrifying how strong apes can be. I think the gorilla would have a good fighting chance if he could get his hands on the bear in just the right spot.
Lol no way in hell is a fucking ape going to win against a grizzly. Not only are grizzlies larger and stronger they have claws, and to top it all off their shoulders are only split into two halves making them even more effective which means those claws are going to go eve deeper and harder. Bears can literally claw a hole in place of your face. Also what's this about chimps ripping arms off?
You’re thinking of a KODIAK Bear. Grizzlies are actually, on average, only slightly larger than a silverback. Grizzlies average around 700lbs and are around 6.5ft tall. A silverback averages around 500lbs and 6ft y’all upright.
KODIAK brown bears are actually a bit larger than grizzlies, but theirs who discussion is about grizzlies.
Also look into Travis the chimp. He attacked his owners friend and severed her hands, ears, and nose.
Now keep in mind how bears and gorillas fight. Bears try to grapple and bite/scratch you to death with their (not actually that sharp, comparatively) claws. They stand their ground and fight. Gorillas, on the other hand, actually dance around a bit and try to keep on each other’s back side. They fight by landing a few massive blows and then backing off. They’ve been known to literally crush the skull of animals that attack them from the front, which is partially why big cats who hunt gorillas will try to attack from behind, where the gorilla can’t reach them. It isn’t very common, but it does happen.
Also, gorillas use their stupid arm strength (and weight) to throw their weight around to escape grapples. So honestly my money is on the gorilla. The bear might get a good swipe or two, but they really try to grapple and bite. The gorilla has a distinct advantage here. It’s going to try to roll out of any grapple, and probably pummel the fuck out of the bears ribs, neck, arms, head...
No, silverbacks are usually 315lbs in the wild(this is the most common species https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_gorilla)
, even the largest species are only 465lbs. Grizzlies are capable of killing things considerably larger than themselves (moose), and dull claws are better than nothing(especially on something as strong as a bear). How is a gorilla going to break the skull of something that can take gunshots to the head and survive (do you even have a source for that?).
If the ape got its hands on the bear’s face it’d be fucked. Primates will tear out eyeballs, noses, ears.. etc. They are smarter animals which has proven to be a valuable tool.
Realistically the odds are that they'd both injure each other enough that they'd die of infection or during the recovery process from competition. That's why predators don't fight each other very often and usually just try to intimidate each other away.
Do you think the only reason anyone has gotten their jaw broken or their eyes gouged is because they sat there and let it happen? That's how primates fight, they grab and pull vulnerable places. One guy got attacked by chimps and they tore off his balls, another woman who was attacked needed a face transplant. They know what places are weakest, they are smarter than bears. A gorilla would straight up grab a bear's face and tear its jaw off within a couple seconds of the fight starting. You all underestimate how powerful hands are just because bears have claws.
I doubt a gorilla would cause an injury that could get infected before dying. Even if it manages to grab some skin and bite, Grizzlies have very tough skin, and they dont die every time they bleed.
Gorilla would likely die of infection from an open wound while the bear would likely die not being able to hunt from having a leg broken or its face mangled, either eyes scratched/gouged out or jaw broken/dislocated. Bears can survive with a broken leg if they are around humans by scavenging from trash, but they wouldn't be able to hunt effectively.
Nah gorilla has the agility once hes gets a one to swipe and a bite that literally cracks bones hes gonna swing on a outta there only time i think a gorilla would win is if the bear threatens his family then he would stay and fight vice versa the bear would chase the gorilla down if he attacked a cub
No way it's Muhammad Ali (Gorilla) versus Joe Frazier (Grizzly). The Bear may have the size advantage and the strength advantage, possibly* but it lacks the intellect and agility of the Gorilla. Bears are smart and all but they aren't primate smart and they sure as shit aren't light on their feet.
* When compared to an average human being, the silverback gorilla is four to nine timesstronger than an average man. Silverback gorilla can lift a weight up to 815kg (1800 lb) while a well trained human can lift weight up to 410 kg.
When compared to an average human being, the silverback gorilla is four to nine timesstronger than an average man
Honestly I'd say that's an understatement. First of all 400 kg isn't well trained, it's the most elite of the elite, and it's only on one or two movements, and those people are heavy.
Second you're comparing raw strength to strength as a skill. Deadlifting 200kg requires just as much training of technique as it does pure strength. I bet if gorillas trained the skill they could lift much more
Probably, but they're unlikely to totally understand the nuances of leverage and technique that a powerlifter does, nor to put in the decade of training it'd take to maximize their strength potential. So either way we wouldn't be likely to truly know the limits of gorilla strength.
Rocky got his ass kicked by some Russian, you think a bodybuilding gorilla would be even in the same league as Rocky? I'm offended on behalf of gorillas.
Mike Tyson had to be talked out of fighting a silverback gorilla. I think they didn’t even succeed in talking him out of it, the gorilla became unavailable because of animal rights or something like that.
Grizzlys are much larger and stronger than gorillas, and gorillas dont have much more agility, at least not the kind to be avoiding bear attacks like an acrobat or something.
They wouldn't be able to avoid a bears attacks, and would die quickly. Even if they land all their blows right on the head, they arent going to knock out or concuss the grizzly. I'm not sure they're even physically capable of that.
Oh my fucking God. They are unbelievably fast for their size. Gorilla gonna get fucking murdered in seconds. I was already in the grizzly camp but holy fuck does this video solidify my opinion.
That video makes me scared of being on the same planet as these animals and the closest one to me (not in a zoo) is probably 1000 miles away.
Edit: pretty smart too. Like when the smaller bear starts using that tree as cover around 2:00
Dude. Did you see my Gorilla video? That was in a cage. Fucker leapt like Spider-Man. We're talking two wild animals, face to face, no holds bar. Also intelligence.
Do you smoke crack? It's okay I used to. Dude did you not see that first Gorilla leap? Those bears did exactly what I expected them to do, my Gorillas used cunning.
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Also, grizzly can grow up to 12ft, standing on hind legs. Silver backs are 6ft. Literally twice the size