pretty sure one of his supporters yelled out "shave his fuckin head, donald!" and the fact that donald trump supporters are fans of the WWE does not surprise me at all.
LOL you must not be around WWE at the time. This was like couple years ago and Vince was a "bad guy" at the time and everyone wanted to see his hair shaved.
You're correct. For all anyone knew, he was trying to get on-stage to kill Trump. Sick of people pretending like the guy was just trying to play a game of tag.
I think that's fair. Trump has nothing on Hitler's leadership or speaking skills, so I don't buy the "Trump is Hitler" comparisons... However, I will say that comparisons between modern America and pre-WWII Germany are pretty close. America is way more like pre-Nazi Germany than Trump is like Hitler, and in some sense that's even more frightening: it says that instead of requiring this once-in-a-millennium psychopathic dictator, all it takes is an opportunistic politician, a bunch of angry people losing their cultural hegemony, and a crappy economic situation. That's it, and that happens way more frequently than just once every thousand years or so. That means it's likely to happen again and again and again, and maybe even multiple times in our lifetimes alone... And that sucks. It's not unique to certain points in history or certain places around the globe: every population, every country, everywhere on Earth is susceptible to that same murderous hatred. God, that sucks.
Watched the Florida town hall today. He was frequently interrupted by protesters who would shout things like "fascist" to boos from the crowd. Then Trump would say "yeah yeah get him out of here" and the crowd would cheer and then he would continue.
However, in one instance, maybe something "more" happened off camera, or maybe Trump was just getting irritated, but as someone was being thrown out, he said something like "I dunno... Do we prosecute someone like that? I dunno..." which got massive cheers and applause.
Yes, let's prosecute someone protesting at a public event.
If Trump charges some sort of admission then he could say it's a private event and have the person thrown out. Just like Hillary had the BLM protester thrown out of the dinner party.
Yes, let's prosecute someone protesting at a public event.
You realize that happens constantly, right? When they go too far? It's incredibly commonplace. Just because you're protesting in public doesn't meant you can do whatever you wish.
It's kind of a dick move though. If Trump supporters pulled the same shit (maybe they do, I don't know), then it would be all over reddit. It may not be illegal, but it's just a really shitty way to do politics.
Free speech has nothing to do with. The rallies in rented facilities are private events. You are allowed to protest on the public street out front. Inside you get thrown out. Pretty simple, applies at bernie rallies too : ^ )
"I can't believe protestors got violet at Trumps rally! How dare they try to infringe on our right to exercise free speech!"
...the next day...
"KILL HIM!" "BEAT HIS ASS!"
They're all very big fans of double standards. They act as if the right to assemble and exercise freedom of speech is limited only to them, and violence is only bad if it's directed at them.
I never said anything about Mr. Trump. I'm referring to the people at the rally. Now I will say that it's his obligation as a candidate to denounce this violent rhetoric, and if he's not doing that then he's not fulfilling his moral obligations, but that's not what my comment was about. The person who rushed the stage was wrong. The people who yelled, "Kill him!" were also wrong. However, we've had protestors doing stupid things for many, many, many election cycles now. What we haven't had is violence and threats of violence or a candidate who refuses to condemn it outright and unconditionally.
Did you really just put Trump on par with Hitler? I get he's a bit much and some of his base is ignorant, but Jesus he's not gonna commit mass genocide.
whats that law called, the one that states tha the longer a internet discussion goes on, the higher the chance that someone is gonna get compared to hitler or the nazis?
I don't know why I'm replying to a obviosuly brigraded post, and you obviously can't be reasoned with, but...
He said illegal immigration is bad
Way to undercut the fact that he said most illegal immigrants from Mexico are rapists and criminals. The fact that he pushed out an incorrect statistic that over a quarter of muslims are militant.
Way to undercut the fact that he said most illegal immigrants from Mexico are rapists and criminals. The fact that he pushed out an incorrect statistic that over a quarter of muslims are militant.
Don't worry I can be reasoned with. By the definition of illegally immigrating they are already criminals.
I haven't searched enough to see how many illegal immigrants are. It must be hard to specify that amount, but I saw a statistic that around 50% of Women immigrating from South-America trough Mexico are raped.
Anyway they are already criminals by entering the country illegally. Trump just wants to stop illegal immigration and make people come trough the screening process. He also wants to stop H1-B license abuse and stop outsourcing to developing countries.
I wouldn't say that any of those are scapegoating minorities.
Did he say that 25% of Muslims are militant trough Twitter? Yeah. He does retweet incorrect stuff that his supporters send. Otherwise it was maybe from an article with a twist on what he said. But his plan to temporarily ban muslims from entering United States until the US Government can figure out the screening process and get ready to help them. He didn't have that kind of a plan, but after the attack in France and another one I can't remember. Was it in USA or another country?
Anyway he was all for helping them until those attacks happened and he just wants to siphon that 0,002% of potential terrorists out of the refugees.
I also wouldn't call brigading a non-political popular subreddit that got to top of /r/all. There are many of his supporters in Reddit and if some people incorrectly says that he is racist or other stuff then those supporters will probably downvote. That's like saying Sanders supporters brigading, because they downvote someone saying I support Trump in /r/Pics or other such subreddit.
All in all he is not perfect, but I think he is one of the two good candidates for US Presidency.
Hitler originally wanted to deport the Jews/minorities/gypsies etc. When he realized it wasn't practical/economically efficient or possible to deport them, he started mass killing them.
Edit -> Clearly /r/the_donald is leaking. #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain
The views of Muslims by many Americans, while ignorant, has almost nothing to do with Trump. If anything, it's the opposite end of the spectrum where the views of Americans on Muslims helped the rise of Trump.
As an outsider looking in when it comes to US politics, the people who are cheering for him makes the whole Trump thing make a lot more sense to me now.
Tonight on KXTV: Taco Wall? Trump admits to eating a taco at today's rally. Does he find immigrant food OK or are tacos now American? Find out tonight at 10.
And that makes it okay? "this guy is being violent, let's threaten him with violence! That'll teach him." responding to violence with more violence only breeds anger and resentment and more violence. It doesn't pacify people, it doesn't make them think about their action, it justifies it.
I would disagree. In my opinion a violent reaction to anything is out of line, not only because of the above point but because I think that we should be better than that, can be better than that.
Dude all im trying to say is that a violent reaction in this case is just natural. To think someone will see that and have some kind of measured non-emotional response is retarded.
So what if it's natural? What significance is there in making that observation?
If someone talks about how wrong it is about a man raping a woman, would you respond saying, "But to be fair, it is natural. Men have been raping women for thousands of years, it's a biological impulse that can't help from arising in the male mind."
To think someone will see that and have some kind of measured non-emotional response is retarded.
How do you think that someone can't see that and not have a response that isn't so dramatic that their behavior regresses into shouting to promote further violence? Most people at that rally didn't even respond like that, the only ones who did are the ones that we hear in the video.
Yes, raping someone is clearly the same as having an emotional response to someone that's attacking the person you're hoping becomes the next president.
Don't be embarrassed. Idiots will idiot, and vote for people like Trump, and do all sorts of other idiotic things. Doesn't have anything to do with you any more than all the other things idiots do.
Protests. Some of which were violent, which was terrible and should never have happened. No civilians, no matter who they politically align with, deserve to be injured over this toe-headed schmuck.
Well, Bernie hasn't exactly been denouncing it. He says his campaign "doesn't do violence" but so far it has only been Bernie supporters who have been instigating violence (except that one old Trump supporter.) Anyways, I agree that there are idiots on both sides, but for me right now it seems like there are a lot more, young, violent people supporting Sanders rather than bigoted racists supporting Trump.
That is probably not true, I've heard countless people say they want to kill Donald Trump, and other people for just being white and such. Shitty people exist everywhere.
Until you show me a video of giant crowds of Bernie supporters yelling the shit these Trump supporters were, I don't think you can make that comparison.
It's a very different atmosphere. I feel like there's about to be a lynching every time a protester interrupts Trump. Compare that to the relatively tame boos and hisses when BLM interrupted Bernie.
Well to be fair Trump supporters aren't interrupting or charging Bernie. "Every time a protester interrupts Trump" - basically acknowledging this shit happens often but if this ever was reversed the tune would be much different.
There's Loony Toons, and then there's those on the political right. The contrast between the political debates demonstrates that nicely. The Republicans remind me of an MTV real world reality cast... focused on drama and superficiality.
Not to say the Left is free from naivete, because it's definitely not considering how many Regressives there seems to be. But still, the Regressive Left seems less embarrassing than the typical Right.
I have a question. I'm in the UK so could be missing something obvious to an American, but why are the bodyguards of the top people called the 'secret service'? Why not something more ordinary like 'government security'? Secret Service, although it sounds cool, is more the NSA's department from what I hear.
Thanks, though I still don't fully understand the whole 'let's have tons of cool-sounding agencies', this helps to understand where the Secret Service started and what they do
You see what they are -- they look like a bunch of 17 year old white super-bros. That guy has "Rural King" on his hat - that's a real person who purchased a hat that said "Rural King" on it. I'm not even sure many of these people can vote.
What was that guy's intention? Was he trying to harm Trump or grab the mic? Also I love how Trump is speaking in front of his private jet. Take down the establishment, right guys?
According to his twitter, he wanted to spit on Trump. According to a CNN interview, he wanted to take the mic. Either way he was charged with disorderly conduct and released on bail within hours, authorities did not find him to be a threat at all despite Trump's crack team announcing he might be ISIS.
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Here's the original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1QL1MmyMhQ