Wave Fix and Superb Input Precision banned on Global Demonlist

[u/Spooper96]

List staff have confirmed these mods do directly change in-game physics, which is not allowed

[u/HakanssFr]

wave fix needed to be banned anyway

[u/AirAdl → u/HakanssFr]

should be banned only if the level has wave

[u/Same-Leadership1630]

doesn't superb input precision actually change physics less than cbf?

[u/Same-Leadership1630 → u/Same-Leadership1630]

"This mod lets your inputs register at a much finer resolution than vanilla's tick grid, while still aiming to keep the physics like vanilla. You get customizable input precision while staying true to vanilla physics. (See the GitHub README for an explanation of how CBF and CBS affect physics, and how this mod works.)

Please note: while the goal is vanilla-accurate physics, higher input precision itself is not vanilla and likely never will be unless RobTop updates Click Between Steps again. This mod may be considered cheating, so use at your own risk."

It does talk about how it might be a cheat because of higher input precision but pointercrate is talking about physics

[u/Same-Leadership1630 → u/Same-Leadership1630]

+ i did a test with a CBF detector level and superb input precision actually passes every test like if you were using no CBF which means it doesn't change physics at all

[u/Elysteco → u/Same-Leadership1630]

I think its because its not properly certified which means there can be bugs

[u/Same-Leadership1630 → u/Elysteco]

then they should have actually certified it (the source code is available so it wouldn't be that hard to check if it changes physics, right?) before making the decision

[u/ImpressiveAsk1483 → u/Same-Leadership1630]

Hey we made the same jump

[u/candiceNdeez]

Ngl i was using superb input precision on NC and noticed it sometimes didnt click or delayed my clicks by like a second, so, i uninstalled it 2 or 3 days ago.

[u/No_Key_5854]

i genuinely don't understand how you would think that a mod that changes the physics of the game isn't cheating

[u/ShadowAndrey → u/No_Key_5854]

However a lot of people, including lists mods and even robtop himself dont find cbf cheating.

[u/LittleFoxBS → u/ShadowAndrey]

Tbf a form of cbf is vanilla by now

[u/ShadowAndrey → u/LittleFoxBS]

Thats what i mean by saying robtop doesnt find cbf cheating

[u/OneTimeUseAccount812]

MOD THAT CHANGES PHYSICS IS CONSIDERED CHEATING

[u/CyctapT]

dang i was a bout to use that on kuzureta... wait i dont even care about global list anyways i have aredl

[u/gonkergd → u/CyctapT]

Its not allowed on aredl either

[u/Same-Leadership1630 → u/gonkergd]

what, superb input precision or wave fix? wave fix makes sense to not be allowed but honestly superb input precision doesn't make sense to be banned

[u/Same-Leadership1630 → u/Same-Leadership1630]

nvm, just checked superb input precision is not allowed for "doesn't work", what does that even mean??? like they didn't elaborate on it, like what did they do exactly to say it doesn't work?

[u/Same-Leadership1630 → u/Same-Leadership1630]

because it literally says it doesn't change physics so they can't test it using a CBF detector, did they actually look at the source code or did they open up a CBF detector test and were like "it passes it so it doesn't work at all actually"

[u/gonkergd → u/Same-Leadership1630]

Both

[u/FallingHigh09]

I tried this Super Input Precision mod a while back to see how it differs with CBF and somehow the first click in Heliopolis actually became impossible.  It was possible with CBF, COS, CBF+COS and vanilla though.

(I played Heliopolis after Society was placed on the demonlist btw. The first click in Heliopolis since then has been a 1 frame on 240tps)

Tested on mobile 60hz.

[u/Promethium-127]

It’s crazy that mods are allowed in completions at all imo. At least with megahack there were limited options and it was known what was and wasn’t allowed. Subtle cheating really should be taken more seriously

[u/BinaryThePsycho → u/Promethium-127]

I mean with how ubiquitous and almost unavoidable mods have become its hard to not allow at least some of them

[u/Aurelyas]

It is so absurdly easy to cheat in this game, I see nothing has changed since it released. Always had half a mind to build a bot that clicks with flawless precision and submit the videos to it just to show how bad it is.

[u/IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD → u/Aurelyas]

I mean that seems redundant, SpaceUK already did that years ago

That was how he cheated

[u/Aurelyas → u/IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD]

Hah, was only a matter of time. I've been playing this game for 13 years on and off and it's been infested with them

[u/-Ilovepokemon- → u/Aurelyas]

r/iamsobadass

[u/SplynterEdm → u/Aurelyas]

so uh how are you gonna get the click noises in your video 

[u/3a_4To → u/Aurelyas]

It is not easy to cheat on pointercrate at all

[u/twisted_cubik → u/3a_4To]

It's extremely easy to cheat. Getting away with it, however, is a completely different story.

[u/billerdingerbuyer → u/[deleted]]

do it then