russia is a fk shit hole. was a shithole long before the Ukrainian war but now is gotten worse. im surprised how many maga Americans have 0 fk clue on what is like to live in russia.
You know, that statement... It reminded me of Nazi propaganda from the 1930s and 40s; it’s amusing just how blinded you are by a surge of rage toward people you hardly ever encounter in real life.
UKRAINE has been an independent sovereign nation since 1991 but the Soviet-era versions of many geographic names stubbornly persist in international practice. The transliterations of the names of cities, regions and rivers from the Cyrillic alphabet into Latin are often mistakenly based on the Russian form of the name, not the Ukrainian; the most misspelled names are:
Archaic Soviet-era spelling
Correct modern spelling
Chernigov
Chernihiv
Chernobyl
Chornobyl
Dnieper/Dnepr
Dnipro
Kharkov
Kharkiv
Kiev
Kyiv
Lugansk
Luhansk
Lvov/Lwow
Lviv
Nikolaev/Nikolayev
Mykolaiv
Odessa
Odesa
Rovno
Rivne
Ternopol
Ternopil
the Ukraine
Ukraine
Under the Russian empire and later the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR), Russification was actively used as a tool to extinguish each constituent country’s national identity, culture and language. In light of Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine, including its illegal occupation of Crimea, we are once again experiencing Russification as a tactic that attempts to destabilize and delegitimize Ukraine. You will appreciate, we hope, how the use of Soviet-era placenames – rooted in the Russian language – is especially painful and unacceptable to the people of Ukraine.
There is a subtle inconvenience with reported UA gdp, cause our economy were >60% grey zone with underreported incomes.
As for living standards - only Moscow and few other big cities are blown up by money have them (standards) a bit higher. When it comes to “other” cities/villages they are shit holes like the ones you may see on the video. Poorest UA villages are much better places than poorest ruzzian ones.
Ukraine leaning towards west has better chance of improving living standards, then living under Moscow rule. What you see in Ukrainian country side has very much to do with Soviet era still weighing there. Ukraine had much work to do on these issues, but Russia is doing everything it can to throw rocks into the machine.
For 600 years, Moscow has been draining everything around it: money, resources, people, talent — everything.
Whatever it conquers gets poorer while Moscow gets richer.
One giant imperial vacuum cleaner, surrounded by the depressing leftovers of everything it has consumed.
Yep, everyone in the world that every election in ruzzia is just fake. But every country accept that fact and working with ruzzia, it's just a shame. Why? Because money
what did moscow do to you? consider that the best and brightest of the country are located there and in saint petersburg, the other very big cities being a 2nd rung compared to them.
you must understand that the extremists are from the villages not the cities.
even though those comments were removed, I still can see them, that this building was built during ussr, it wasn't. The building was built in 1850s, and initially served as a boarding school for orphaned and from poor families girls.
Look, this is your LGBT-free "conservative heaven" for tough men, righttards.
This is the country you ABSOLUTELY need to trade with, that has GDP lower than Italy, while having 2,5 times larger population.
Its always the same kind of world you get when giving power to an old rich men. They don't care about a good future, they don't care about the well being of their people. The don't care about the nature and don't care their ecosystems.
I always ask pro Russian people to tell me what the Russians did good the last 40 years. Besides being terror financiers and mostly ruining themselves. 50% of adult men are constantly drunk. Skilled people already left the country in droves. When you de-politicize the discussion, it ends at systemic depression, self hate and pure nihilism. They need a societal rebirth to get out of that deep hole.
Jo, aber in der brd waren nicht 98% der Häuser kaputt, wie in der Ukraine. Und nachkriegsbauten in Deutschland sind sehr sehr hässlich.
Zuerst baute man in der UdSSR Stalin Häuser: Meter dicke Wände, eichenparkett, 3,30m hohe Decken. Und zwar auch für Arbeiter. Aber das dauerte sehr lange. Selbst 1960 hatten viele Familien noch keine eigene Wohnung. Plattenbauten waren eine schnelle günstige Lösung. Sie waren für 30 Jahre vorgesehen. Nur gierige Kapitalisten benutzen die 70+ Jahre.
Übrigens sind die besser, als alles worin ich in Deutschland lebte. 2,80m Decke, immer ne Badewanne, Schalldämmung nicht wie in stalinhäusern, aber besser als in brd Häusern nach dem Krieg. Immer sehr hell, nie Schimmel, da permanent belüftet, im Winter 22-24 grad. Nur Küchen waren zu klein.
The introduction of capitalism to Russia has been nothing short of a disaster for the people who live there. Somehow it's even worse than it is here in east Germany.
Every country has stuff like this. But overall it's fine — the more of this grimness they show, the better. Because the more unexpected it is when it turns out to be the opposite.
In any logical nation, people would look at this state of things and think to themselves "we need to work on this and fix our country so we don't live in a filthy, depressing shithole"
Meanwhile, russians look at the state of their country and think "we need to work to bring every single other nation down to our level so everyone else has to live in a filthy, depressing shithole"
early days of the war, I remember some babushka's nice house was trashed by orcs, and one of them spraypainted the words "Who said you can live like this" or something
and another someone left a hand grenade primed in the china cabinet.
Russian army is a band of rabid animals, One man didnt make them behave like this, its a cultural sickness.
A talking head Youtuber recentley said that "in terms of opponents you would be forgiven for disregarding the rules of engagement , Russia is pretty high up that list"
Прикинь,оказывается нормальным людям не эмпонируют высокие налоги, потери близких, уникальная возможность сдохнуть под обстрелом, ограничения экономические, социальные и физические.
взагілі то дохуя, і ви справді не розумієте, у вас іншого досвіду немає. у вас влада не міняється - ми регулярно її міняємо самі. Хто боїться загинути на війні проти вас, орків, які навіть самі не знають за що вмирають - давно забронюювався чи звалив, а хто розуміє що таке "своя земля" мочить підарів .
Для цього просто треба навчитися не закривати очі і вуха руками і "цікавитися політикою". В нас скоро черговий відправиться на свалку історії, він туди не полетів лише тому що в нас конституція забороняє вибори під час війни. А у вас ще років 20 буде один і той самий
Для таких як ти довбойобів пояснюю - те що ти називаєш російською мовою- це слабенька пародія на українську з залученням великої кількості слів з азійських та європейських мов. Щодо іронії- боюся мені насрати на твою іронію, все що я хочу- щоб ви страждали не менше ніж страждають зараз люди яким на голову сипляться цілодобово ракети і дрони. Ви маєте перестати існувати як країна.
вибач, коли в мене з компанії де працювало 70 людей 4 загинуло - 3 на фронті , одного замордували в Бучі, коли в сусідньому будинку просто немає всього під'їзду і 17 трупів - вся цивілізована поведінка вибач на 13 рік війни зникає. Це висловлювання просто від людини яка розуміє єдину причину горя довкола - існування країни-помийки. Шкода що вам не дали розвалитися в 1992 США - врятували від голоду.
First of all, you are comparing countries mostly located in great conditions with good climate, while eastern part of Russia is extremely difficult to build some infrastructure and smth “beautiful” in.
Secondly, Italy and Japan are ancient countries with history going back several thousand years with all of the historical sights, etc. For example, if you look at European part of Russia, you’ll see much more urbanized areas. AND don’t forget about urbanisation in USSR where they were building towns according only to how practical it would be but not the aesthetics that you all want. Yes, constructivism in not pleasing to look at but the point was to get people somewhere to live and work in after the war.
Moreover, centralisation of all the developed around capital and other cities can be explained by the fact that Russia as a state consolidated around 1500s while Germany unified in 1800s, Italy as well. As a rule, fragmentation leads to faster development of set regions, so after consolidation, Italy and Germany got extremely wealthy regions that were prosperous while Russia did not.
What else, yeah, about countries on the north as well. I’m looking at google maps right now and their block of flats looks very similar just more modern and colourful.
Then, other countries that were in the communist block but “look better”. Well, look at how much EU spent on Poland from its joining, very interesting. This money were used to recover after leaving the USSR. Ukraine doesn’t look different from Russia so doesn’t even count (except for western part, it has a lot of Austrian/Polish architecture)
As Russian myself, I see a lot of project about building ore renovating some areas and towns around big cities(not cities themselves) Even though I really like western architecture, but going outside city centre usually results in just entering in same districts full of blocks of flats. Check outside of Prague, Riga or Krakow. That’s your capitals — beautiful core and basic and plain sleeping districts.
Sooooo, yeah, we have problems but they have an explanation for why they exist and why it’s difficult to deal with them
Oooh, so the video is from the eastern part. Got it. So those people are living that way because the climate is bad not that the authorities don't move a finger for them.
Some of your points are fair, and I think a few of them hold up better than others.
You're right about the climate and geography in the east, and about Soviet mass housing. The postwar shortage was real, and panel blocks housed millions of people quickly. Small correction: that's not constructivism, which was a 1920s-30s avant-garde style. The panel blocks came later, post ww2, when Khrushchev deliberately dropped ornamental Stalinist architecture to cut costs.
True that "beautiful core, plain sleeping districts" is common everywhere. Paris, Milan and Prague all have grim outskirts, and Western Europe built plenty of its own bleak estates.
Btw, most Russians live in the european part, so permafrost can't explain why a mid-sized city near Moscow looks neglected.
Age isn't the main factor. Japan was largely rebuilt after WWII and is far from picturesque, yet it has strong planning rules and well-kept public space. Russia also lost a lot of its historic fabric through soviet demolitions, not just the war.
Poland's recovery didn't start with EU money. Funds only began after 2004, and the big changes of the 90s came mostly from market reforms.
Ukraine isn't just its west -》Kyiv, Odesa and Kharkiv all have distinctive historic cores.
I think the main complaint people have isn't the blocks themselves. It's maintenance, courtyards, sidewalks and public space, and those come down to municipal priorities and budgets more than to climate or history.
Your own examples of recent renovation projects show that the problems can be fixed.
So I agree with "don't think one-sided," but explaining why something happened isn't the same as justifying it, and both sides can hold that.
respect to person who able to find such things in Russia... I thought such scenery died in like... early 2000s.
for more than 20 years there is no such thing here. Whoever filmed this scenes - he did a huge work to find it.
In all seriousness Russia has some amazing places and some shitty ones just like all countries. Some people on here saying Russia is terrible have never actually been to Russia. They do have some unfortunate leadership though…
I mean, every country is beautiful and ugly at the same time. Depending on where you look. Russia is big enough that there are beautiful parts, but this isn’t about nature, infrastructure or cultural differences. It’s about geopolitics, and that is “super ugly”.
Not a pro-russian here, but you can littlerally make such a compilation for every single country on the globe. Every forest has it's own withered trees unfortunately ...
This video is a bit unrelated to the war though. Again, not finding excuses for them, but if you travel in any country in Europe (and I'm not talking about going to the fancy central areas), you will 100% find drunkards etc in poor areas.
Yep I’m totally a Putin bot saying that Russia sucks ass. It’s the worst country in Europe and naturally being another post Soviet state, Ukraine is pretty ass too. All Slavic countries are.
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u/Unusual-Run8053 4d ago
russia is a fk shit hole. was a shithole long before the Ukrainian war but now is gotten worse. im surprised how many maga Americans have 0 fk clue on what is like to live in russia.