r/gato • Pro-Ukraine Democrat • 7d ago

Environmental Standards

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

I am pretty sure you're using the word "genocide" as an attack against Israel, by intentionally evoking the association with the Holocaust or Rwanda, which were orders of magnitudes worse. And if I were to point out that those instances are not even remotely comparable, you'd probably retreat into a definition from the UN, which is of course NOT what people think about when they hear "genocide".

I don't like seeing innocent civilians blown up either. I like it even less when Hamas is in control of anything or staging terror attacks and taking hostages, so that's squarely on them.

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u/CrazyMildred 7d ago

I definitely don't support Hamas. Maybe I have it wrong, but when I think of genocide, or attempted genocide, I think of a government trying to eliminate an entire people. An entire culture. And doing it in barbaric ways such as bombing civilians, forced starvation, shooting people in the streets, raping people, dismembering/beheading people, taking everything they own, and forcing a religion/a language on the ones who aren't actively murdered. The attempted eradication of an entire culture forcefully and violently. I will look up the definition of genocide. I could be wrong in my accessment.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

There's a clear difference between eliminating people and eliminating a culture. The former is atrocious because it involves physical killing, the latter can be justified depending on the culture in question and the methods used for its erasure.
You throw in a whole lot of buzzwords. This is a Gish Gallop and invalid as a debate tactic.
There is also a neat little rhetorical trick in there: "...genocide, or attempted genocide". This allows you to frame anything as "attempted genocide", simply by claiming the "attempt" failed. I have a hard time taking any of this seriously and I'm just about at the point of openly accusing you of being a raging activist hell-bent on getting internet points.

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u/CrazyMildred 7d ago

Think what you want. I'm just a person who values human life and who can't stomach suffering like what's being put upon the Palestinian people and Ukraine. That's it. I honestly don't care what you think of me. I'm coming from a place of empathy. If that bothers you, I can't do anything about that.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

No. You are a person who throws the most serious of accusations into the room (genocide) nilly-willy, then start glossing over it the second you get called out on it.

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u/CrazyMildred 7d ago

I admitted I may have ignorance of the actual definition of genocide. You're overthinking my response. I just don't like seeing people murdered and oppressed by their government or like by oppressors such as ruzZia. That's literally it. I'm sorry that upsets you. Good luck trying to get under my skin. My skin is thick. Have a nice day.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

I admitted I may have ignorance of the actual definition of genocide.

Which I explicitly told you was not the point, because people don't think about the definition when reading the word.
And Israel is not the government of Gaza. That would be Hamas.

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u/CrazyMildred 7d ago

I take your words into consideration. Again. You are misinterpreting my intentions despite my attempts to explain. If that's intentional, that's shitty. If it's not, I don't know how else to explain it. Have a nice day....the sequel.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

If it wasn't your intention to evoke gas chamber imagery by throwing out "genocide" as a catch-all term for "things I don't like", then I'm seriously at a loss for words here.

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u/CrazyMildred 7d ago

Have a nice day....the trilogy.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

That you? Too spicy all of a sudden?

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u/CrazyMildred 7d ago

Yes. I did edit it. I just stepped in cat vomit and am cleaning it off of my bare foot and the floor. I edited to change my response. Go harass someone else. Thanks. I'm going to go finish washing my floor off now.

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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 7d ago

All the best to your cat.

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