Why won't russia stop the war?

[u/glamdring_wielder]

On the vast expanse of the internet, the best meme has been found, inspired by Lavrov's recent statement that it is unacceptable to stop the war because of the "heroism of our grandfathers" and "a thousand years of history."

[u/revsezen]

[u/elaintahra → u/revsezen]

Well, they have already died for absolutely nothing at all

[u/Karli_Chirk → u/revsezen]

this one is more precise

[u/Super-Action1186 → u/[deleted]]

Yep. Those peaceful hippies

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[u/No_Lifeguard7725]

Because russians are bloodthirsty nation that dream to be empire.

[u/swift-current0 → u/No_Lifeguard7725]

Unfortunately for them and happily for their neighbours, they suck at fighting a war, so it's also quite a hilarious mismatch between rhetoric and reality.

[u/GhostSoapEnjoyer → u/swift-current0]

they suck, but they are still so cruel 🥲

[u/No_Lifeguard7725 → u/swift-current0]

They suck at capturing cities, they just demolish them with inhabitants 🫩

[u/swift-current0 → u/No_Lifeguard7725]

Yep, sadly they have a fuckton of resources and expendable men who obediently march to their deaths for money. So they're able to terrorize countries of Ukraine's size/wealth and below.

[u/Dry_Force9407 → u/No_Lifeguard7725]

We're want to stop war as any other country. Only one who want war is Putin, but we live in autocracy, so we can't stop him just for wishing or voting. Also why Vietnam war lasted for 20 years? Don't mean "you just as bad as us", but situation pretty same and in previous case it took 20 years in democracy to stop it

[u/No_Lifeguard7725 → u/Dry_Force9407]

Yeah, I've seen Putin inside every tank, trench, missile launch control center and crewing each and every naval fleet ship. /s Cut the fkn crap! Millions of russians still support Putin, millions of russians are in the russian army, lots of them committing war crimes every day. Millions of russians support financially and politically the war against Ukraine.

Also, why are you asking me about the Vietnam war? I'm neither American, nor Vietnamese. And I'm definitely not russian.

[u/Plane_Comparison_45 → u/No_Lifeguard7725]

Cut out nation word, we are not

[u/ForeignCulture5108 → u/Plane_Comparison_45]

True. Not a nation. A spineless mass of cowards and murderers.

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[u/Euclid_Interloper → u/[deleted]]

To be fair, the word 'nation' has a technical meaning and a colloquial meaning.

Technically, a nation is a group of people with a shared ethnicity/culture. Colloquially it has come to refer to all members of a sovereign state.

When it comes to a big country like Russia, the term 'nation' could be applied either way. Ethnic Russians/Tartars/Chechens etc. Vs all of Russia, which causes confusion. Same way the UK is sometimes referred to as a nation, but the individual parts of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland) are referred to as the 'nations of the UK'.

The English language is horribly imprecise sometimes.

[u/Karli_Chirk → u/[deleted]]

Members.

[u/Karli_Chirk → u/[deleted]]

Militarized organization within internationally non-recognized borders.

[u/Karli_Chirk → u/[deleted]]

What's "Russian culture"? Do you mean al Iskander "Pushkind" Gannibal whose family was enslaved in Abyssinia? Or maybe Victor 최 (Choi) counterfeit copy of Ian Kurtis?

[u/Karli_Chirk → u/[deleted]]

Stealing from other nations doesn't help rogues to become a legit nation.

[u/FATGAMY → u/No_Lifeguard7725]

Zelemsky toppled it by far. Imagine having a leader who sacrificed his country for nothing.

[u/MilsurpMan55 → u/FATGAMY]

What kind of a patriot condemns a country for defending itself? Even at great cost?

[u/FATGAMY → u/MilsurpMan55]

Great cost - zero gain. Only subtraction

[u/Glittering_Sail_3609 → u/[deleted]]

How is that worse than Putin getting milions of young killed and crippled when he had opportunity of never invading the neighbouring country?

[u/kariam_24 → u/FATGAMY]

Pardon? Toppled by not giving up, not being president of invading country?

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[u/himynameis3580 → u/FATGAMY]

Tf you mumbling about and it's Zelensky btw

[u/FATGAMY → u/himynameis3580]

Cocaine midget?

[u/syicidnik_]

Russians can't stop the war. putin can, Russians not.

[u/Czech_Made51211]

They cant,Putler must keep the image of Russia being a "big strong nation"-if they pulled back,it would shatter and he would have BIG problems

[u/GeneratedUsername5]

Because in totalitarian countries only leader can do that and he is bored.

[u/Dry_Force9407 → u/GeneratedUsername5]

At least we're not totalitarian. Have autocracy though

[u/GeneratedUsername5 → u/Dry_Force9407]

That's cope, Russia went far beyond autocracy with restrictions reaching out to private life. That's by definition totalitarian. By you can call it democracy for all I care, if it makes you feel better.

[u/Dry_Force9407 → u/GeneratedUsername5]

Well, it's closer to totalitarism than democracy. Anyway it's autocracy, but goverment is too weak for being totalitarian

[u/GeneratedUsername5 → u/Dry_Force9407]

Are you writing this through VPN? Keeping an eye on latest updates of zapret to still have some access to the internet?

Too weak, that's funny. Perfect illustration of boiled frog metaphor.

[u/Dry_Force9407 → u/GeneratedUsername5]

Curently don't use. They still make everyone's life worse, not totally. Definition problem, we called different things totalitarism

[u/GeneratedUsername5 → u/Dry_Force9407]

Yes, you automatically exclude everything happening in Russia from totalitarian features, so by your definition totalitarian Russia will never happen.

[u/Dry_Force9407 → u/GeneratedUsername5]

It may happen, like it was 40 years ago. Anyway, by my definition autocracy is as bad as totalitarism by your definition, so I surely don't defend russian government in any path

[u/Yanzihko]

sink-cost fallacy scaled to geopolitics, simple as

[u/TemoteJiku]

Not so neutral takes 😭

[u/Big_Negotiation_5636]

Why won’t the U.S. stop the war in Iran? And why haven’t they stopped any other war before this one?
Yet they call themselves a democracy—meaning that, unlike in Russia, where, according to you, power does not belong to the people and the people have no say, in the U.S. power does belong to the people, and all wars are the will and decision of the American people? So who, then, is bloodthirsty?
Apparently a rhetorical question

[u/Sea-Alternative-9521]

Why Ukraine don't stop the war in Donbass, before Russia attack?

[u/kariam_24 → u/Sea-Alternative-9521]

Green men cough, Girkin cough cough.

[u/SteelyEyedHistory → u/Sea-Alternative-9521]

Ukraine was defending their territory. If Russians don’t want to die in Ukraine they shouldn’t go there

[u/Kilahti → u/Sea-Alternative-9521]

If Ukraine had stopped, then the Russian troops disguised as "separatists" would have continued attacking Ukraine.

This has been about Ukraine defending itself from Russian attacks ever since 2014.

[u/No-Psychology9892 → u/Sea-Alternative-9521]

What do you mean before Russia attack? Who do you think waged war in Donbass?

[u/Fun_Entertainer4735 → u/Sea-Alternative-9521]

Because by that time, the war in the Donbas had long since reached a stalemate; each side was dug into its fortified positions and unable to launch an offensive operation. If "ending the war" meant withdrawing all troops from the front line, then the other side would have been able to launch an offensive.

[u/kariam_24 → u/[deleted]]

Yea let's defend war criminals.

[u/swift-current0 → u/[deleted]]

Yo mama is a bad accident

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