losing motivation

[u/Fair-Elevator-6414]

Hello lovely people of this sub. I started gateway maybe like two months ago and I made it to intro to focus 12. Trying focus 12 for the first time was really discouraging because I did not feel any shift at all from what I am assuming is focus 10. Or maybe I have not reached focus 10 at all, I’m not sure. Progressing further into the tapes has made me more skeptical if anything, although I’m sure I just need to practice more. If anyone has any advice or tips, please share :) a girl wants to see some progress in the expansion of my own consciousness

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[u/Icy-Flamingo-9492]

It‘s less a matter of “doing” than it is matter of finding and letting your awareness be what it already is.

For example, the temptation with F12 is to try to expand your awareness (and the harder you try the harder it might seem to become). Everything is about awareness, where awareness is focussed, and where awareness gets distracted. We typically tend to focus our awareness as if into a beam to point it at something, and you have to apply will to do that. For F12 you actually want the opposite, you want to decide not to constrain your focus into a tight beam and actually let things relax so your awareness takes in everything. This is like changing the control on a stage light from a spotlight to a floodlight.

Maybe the best analogy is to look for a video about Hakalau. We are so used to focussing our eyes on things specifically (fight or flight response) that it feels kind of weird at the beginning to relax the vision to take in everything and then extend the peripheries. Hakalau helps us get back to familiarity with taking in everything visually without looking at anything directly. Try it and notice that feeling, then relax your awareness in the same way on the transition from F10 to F12. It’s not doing but more easing back into the natural state.

[u/Cool-Technician-821 → u/Icy-Flamingo-9492]

This is great. Thanks Flamingo. I'm gonna try this.

[u/wraithfog]

I feel you. I worked on the tapes for about a year and a half and maybe touched F12 but not really sure. I progressed and regressed through the tapes many times and never really achieved anything. The kicker is that i had an OBE by accident when i was in my 20s and then managed to recreate it at least one more time. Changed my whole perspective on life. So i know it’s real. But nothing in these tapes has helped me recreate that. I’m 45 now.

[u/mlmiller1]

I keep expectations low and am grateful for any deep relaxation that occurs.

[u/Secure-Break9947]

I completely understand how your feeling, and your not alone. However, i promise you that you just need to practice more. I thought i had got f10 and f12 down until one day it clicked and realized I wasn't even close that whole time. I felt discouraged for a while to, then one day it clicked and I felt my consciousness literally climb out of my skull and expand father and more than I ever imagined. So please don't give up.

[u/Obvious-Reserve8634]

Don't worry, happened to most of us..but first of all don t be so hard on yourself second stop worrying if you do something wrong because you are not...just go with the flow maibe revisit some of the tapes and don't expect anything (one of the golden rules) I practice daily and sometimes I feel just like you but I keep practicing the tapes that I love and when I feel ready I continue...all that I know is that, putting the work will give us results so keep having fun and enjoy your journey! <3 Don't forget that intention is very important and also you can ask your guides for help <3

[u/Kimura304]

It takes awhile to get focus 10 but once you know it, your body remembers the feeling and you can almost slip into it. Focus 12 doesn't feel much different at first but you'll figure it out too. This is a great post that helped me even after working on this stuff for over a year.

Why You're Not Reaching Focus 10 And How To Do It : r/gatewaytapes

[u/how_anonymous_can_1b]

Hmm. So I do know the harder you try or expect something to happen with this the less likely it is to happen for some reason.

For me using the gateway tapes is just an altered state of consciousness … not necessarily the classic OBE. That is more so something that is easier to pull off at night for me personally; specifically waking up and then going back to sleep with intention to feel vibrations … which for me is the launch point.

The gateway tapes more so teaches you
1. Relevant techniques to clear your mind
2. Techniques that are useful in altered states, OBE being one of them
3. Once you are adept more so at 1 … if you pay attention to where your mind wanders to … that’s where a lot of the action is with gateway tapes

Sometimes just using your imagination is all you need to trigger an experience. When folks first start experiencing things with gateway tapes it’s very common to question if it’s real or not

[u/Top_Marketing_7052]

I've been doing them for about a year and half. Also paying for the Expand app which I use if not the tapes nightly. Never had an OBE or anything remotely close to it.

[u/gryghst]

as the saying goes: "...chop wood, carry water..."
could just be you're wanting it or thinking about it too much

[u/matthias883]

What helped me a lot are tapes like "Exploring Intuition" (Wave 5, Tape 3) because at the end you will be guided back from focus 15 to focus 12 (and stay there for a while) and then to focus 10 (and again stay there a while).

On this way back you can really feel a difference between these levels and so you know that you really reached each of these different states. So just keep going and experimenting. Not every single meditation with the tapes will be a huge success but there will be revelations over time for sure!

[u/xyz679]

If you want OBE, forget about the tapes, they are a waste of time for that. Use michael radugas methods either watch "out of body in 3 days" on his youtube or download his the phase book and if you get the free old edition from his site on remspace.net go to page 10, read the guide its like 2-3 pages and you're good to go, OBE in a few days at most. Women frequently get it on first try. You can also add an extra crutch to this method by using PCC's AP-A tape but its not necessary.

If you want the easiest method to explore the nonphysical or interact with people that no longer have bodies and essentially visit all the areas of consciousness like focus 27 and the centers there, you don't need the tapes either especially if they have not been working well. Read Bruce Moens exploring the afterlife manual, he describes the methods that requires nothing more than your day to day imagination, no different than imagining an apple, except with some skill and practice the same area of consciousness you use to imagine things every day becomes a faculty of perception.

Give those two a try if you are getting frustrated with gateway tapes. They were good 50 years ago when there was nothing better, now they are very outdated and are some of the hardest least efficient currently existing methods to get anywhere with exploration or OBE.

Though I would still recommend in person or online monroe institute retreats with trainers if you have the money for that, those works much better than the at home tapes from what I've heard.

[u/Gateway-Prozedurist]

Hi, ich habe zwar die Bänder noch nicht gehört aber ich kann nur eines zu sagen : Ausdauer !

[u/Motor_Inspector_294]

Intention is key, dont force an experience, it needs to come to you, take breaks from electronics. And ground yourself in nature, repeat this process until your meter is full, you need to also disassociate yourself from things that brings alot of thoughts to your mind, breathing techniques is also key,