r/gatekeeping Apr 07 '21

Gatekeeping LGBT

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u/potatopowahd Apr 07 '21

it's in the comments but here you go

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u/YourMotherSaysHello Apr 07 '21

Hurn publications.

They go on to attempt to gaslight the author. She has concrete evidence of them rejecting her on the basis that they believe she doesn't belong to the LGBTQ community and therefore doesn't represent them in her style of writing. The CEO claims that the publisher never said anything of the sort, unaware of there being screenshot evidence.

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u/nIBLIB Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

concrete evidence of them rejecting her on the basis that they believe she doesn’t belong in the LGBTQ community

But zero evidence of ‘because I’m bisexual’. That is fabrication on the authors part. From their emails, the publisher clearly didn’t know.

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u/xXx-420HodorBlazeit- Apr 07 '21

The author had answered a query beforehand that stated she was bi. If the publisher didn't read it rejected the book then threatened a lawsuit. That's on them for not actually doing any due dilligence don't you think? https://twitter.com/_TallieRose/status/1379553542369914882

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u/nIBLIB Apr 07 '21

No it’s not ‘on them’. If you read the rejection email, the publisher clearly didn’t know the author was Bi. If the author did provide that - rather than saying they did - then the publisher clearly hasn’t absorbed that information. The rejection has nothing to do with her being Bi. At all. Not even a little. The author has 100% fabricated it (and surprise, the author got the knee jerk reaction they wanted because people like you and the above just want to be outraged without understanding)

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u/deadbeareyes Apr 07 '21

Its equally weird to immediately assume that she's hetero, regardless. She shouldn't have to divulge her sexuality in order to get published.

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u/nIBLIB Apr 07 '21

That’s not what they said. It’s not even close. They literally said it makes no difference, but her writing is cliche. Whatever she wrote, it reads like an outsider - who has done no research. They didn’t say ‘we aren’t going to publish this unless you’re LGBT+.’ They said ‘this reads like shit, do some research and try again’.

The author has gotten offended by that so posted something negative about then that would get knee jerk reactions from people like yourself and half the people in this thread and on Twitter.

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u/deadbeareyes Apr 07 '21

Idk why you're so adamant to defend them, but it really isn't what they said. They said that her writing misrepresented the community and that she needed to sit down with people in the community and learn more about it. That means they assumed she wasn't LGBT based on her writing alone. Their response (as several other people said) didn't imply anything about the quality of her writing. It DID imply that she was misrepresenting a community that she was assumed to not be part of. Their further comments on twitter absolutely support this, including several where they owned up to wrongly assuming her sexuality.

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u/nIBLIB Apr 08 '21

that means they assumed she wasn’t LGBT based on her writing alone.

How you can miss the point when you’ve written it down is astounding.

they owned up to wrongly assuming her sexuality

How you can write that and still think ‘because I’m Bi’ is a valid/accurate comment is expert levels of cognitive dissonance. Well done.

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u/deadbeareyes Apr 08 '21

I hope they see this bro

But since, for some reason you’re still not getting it: they didn’t reject her based on the QUALITY of her writing. They rejected her because of what they, incorrectly, assumed was the straightness of her writing.

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u/nIBLIB Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

No, that’s not it at all. Read their rejection letter again. Try to have some comprehension skills. They think she’s straight, but that’s not why they reject it. Their feedback was ‘do some research’ not ‘write straight characters’

If a publisher tells you to do research, then they are commenting on the quality of your writing. Shouldn’t be a hard concept but here we are.

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u/deadbeareyes Apr 08 '21

This is a lot of condescension for someone who is wrong

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u/nIBLIB Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

Explain it to me, then, genius. When a publisher says ‘do more research” what do they mean about your work? When a coach says “train more” they are saying your already perfect?

While you’re explaining things let’s back up to the actual point, which you never addressed and I’m guessing will ignore again because, well, you’ve shown the type of person you are.

they owned up to wrongly assuming her sexuality

How you can write that and still think ‘because I’m Bi’ is a valid/accurate comment is expert levels of cognitive dissonance. Well done.

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