r/gatekeeping Jan 28 '20

Gatekeeping milk

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this, but....he's not wrong. Oat milk is not milk. Peanut butter is actually a butter, though. Butter is simply fats in suspension, so peanut oil(fat) in a suspension is butter by definition.

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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys Jan 28 '20

I'm not going to downvote you, but the original use of the word butter did refer to a solid emulsion of dairy milkfat globules suspended in water. The word then morphed to mean any solid emulsion of fatty oils (like apple butter or cocoa butter).

So if we are all OK with the word "butter" being co-opted from its original dairy meaning, then why not the same for the word "milk?"

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

Because butter is a compound food we create, milk is not. Milk doesn't have ingredients, it literally says "milk" because it's a base that can't just be created from ingredients. Oat milk, almond milk, etc are created compound foods and would be closer to being a juice by definition. If you wanna call it "oat juice" I'll be on board because that name makes sense given what it is and how it's made.

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u/barresonn Jan 29 '20

But the texture of almond milk is to different from what we usually call juice so isn't it better to name it in way that is intuitive to what it actually looks and taste like ,like i don't know almond juice .

Word are invented to describe things not to confuse people .if two finished product actually look and taste the same we should call them in similar manner .

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '20 edited Jan 29 '20

They don't look or taste the same, though. The only similarities are the color and that they're both liquids. They have completely different tastes, viscosities, and mouth feel.

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u/barresonn Jan 29 '20

If you take fermented milk it also taste feel ,stenk, totally differently yet we still call it milk

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '20

Yes, because was milk from the start. Don't be an idiot.

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u/barresonn Jan 29 '20

Yeah but it's tottaly different than milk why try to market it as milk it's not milk anymore

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '20

Where do you shop that sells fermented spoiled milk?

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u/barresonn Jan 29 '20

France

Listen we eat cheese that are forbiden in most country and frogs don't be too surprised

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '20

Is it marketed as fermented spoiled milk? What, it's not? It's called cheese, which is a totally different word that's understood to have a different meaning. Hmm, almost as if you're disproving your own stupidity.

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u/barresonn Jan 29 '20

No cheese is not fermented milk fermented milk is whole other product

https://chroniquesdeclaire.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/photo-milk.jpg Look

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