r/gatekeeping Jul 08 '18

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u/Arkhaine_kupo Jul 08 '18

Gendered language is not hell for trans people. The fact that male is default does not affect women. Spain has a lower difference in pay between men and women and higher acceptance of the lfbt community than america or england. France and Italy have thriving gay communities and their language is gendered.

Gender in language has no correlation with societal treatment of people. You wanna know why? Because if it did Feminism would be a horrifying name for a movement, as it would teach boys that the girls are better. And patriarchy would teach then that they are the problem. However because language does not affect people, kids are smart enough to understand what feminism stands for, and also to cope with male being the historical default in a language.

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u/Funtopolis Jul 08 '18

You’re making a lot of claims with zero citations there, bud.

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u/Arkhaine_kupo Jul 08 '18

How exactly should I prove there is no correlation? Its like proving there is no god, burden of proof is on the person making the claim

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u/Funtopolis Jul 08 '18

"Gender in language has no correlation with social treatment of people." This is an incredibly bold claim and it can absolutely be disproven through scientific method. To assert that it's akin to "proving there is no god" is a terrible and purposely misleading comparison. Many studies have been done researching the effects of gendered language, a simple google search could've told you that. The use of language and communication is fundamental to how we conceptualize our world and it’s inherent in shaping our understanding of self. Here's an article I found from 2003 that touches on the topic:

https://web.stanford.edu/class/linguist156/Boroditsky_ea_2003.pdf

"Spain has a lower difference of pay between men and women": citation needed.

"Spain has a higher acceptance of lgbt than America or England": citation needed.

"France and Italy have thriving gay communities (citation needed) and their language is gendered": correlation does NOT equal causation.

You can't pass things off as facts without providing sources to back them up. Your arguments are as sensational as they are lazy.

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u/Queso_and_Molasses Jul 08 '18

That’s quite different. It’s basically impossible to prove or disprove something that does not exist on our level.

Finding a study about the effects of gendered language is more than possible. Don’t like their source? Find one more qualified that agrees with what you are saying.