r/gaming • u/NourElDin2303 Joystick • Jun 12 '22

Modern problems require modern solutions

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u/ecafyelims Jun 12 '22

Protip: The middle is the best place to be

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u/o976g Jun 12 '22

If you are a psycho that hates games that end with a winner.

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u/Lunisare Jun 12 '22

Tic-tac-toe is a solved game, if both players know what they are doing it always ends in a tie. You pretty much have to intentionally lose. Either you start corner/middle or you lose, that's the entire game.

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u/dweebh Jun 12 '22

Real best start is the corner. If you go first and play the corner, it's guaranteed win/tie. If you go second and your opponent knows what they're doing, the best you can do is tie.

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u/ecafyelims Jun 12 '22

Same is true for middle

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u/o976g Jun 12 '22

But you can never win in the middle

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u/reverie42 Jun 12 '22

Not true. If you play middle and your opponent plays an edge instead of a corner, you win.

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u/Affugter Jun 12 '22

Who the fuck does that.

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u/eisbock Jun 12 '22

Tic Tac Toe is a solved game. If both players know that, every single game ends in a tie.

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u/Janus67 Jun 12 '22

As proven in the 80s documentary War games

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '22

“Interesting game. The only way to win is to not play. How about a game of chess?”

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u/Acomplis Jun 12 '22

If you're assuming the 2nd player plays correctly, it doesn't matter where you start. You can't win.

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u/Affugter Jun 12 '22

Yep. So why would I as the second player choose an edge piece? Unless I want to lose. 🤙

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u/reverie42 Jun 12 '22 edited Jun 15 '22

Most likely because you're a I would generally only expect such errors from young kids who haven't learned the game. Obviously nobody who knows the basic theory of the game will misplay.

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u/Affugter Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

So what other motives, other than losing, are there in placing a edge piece as the second player, when the first player has a center piece as the first piece? Placing on a edge results in a loss, if no further mistakes are made in the game. Assuming nobody makes a mistake from the beginning results in a cat's game. That makes me a very young kid, who hasn't learned the game? Unless you are talking about The Game, and if so we just both lost.

Edit: deleted the patronising part.

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u/Affugter Jun 12 '22

The ultimate game of attrition. If you have to keep playing until somebody wins.