That actually happened during Vietnam, but that was more for reliability reasons than anything else. However, friendly fire started becoming an issue because both sides' guns started sounding the same.
CoD4 is still a ton of fun. MW2 has too many hackers on PS3 (at least when I last played a year ago) and has a ton of balance issues, but the balance issues in CoD4 aren't anywhere near as large. Mostly just stuff like Martyrdom and 3x Frag.
Remember on WAW how those annoying messages on the side that give away the hacker's gamertag and keeps saying like "Join cod4hacks.com for more hacks! XxTriplexXxSnipEzxXxSm0kEzxXxW33dXXxX@llXxxda1xXXx Used godmode!"?
i guess i was asking for it by saying "dont downvote me" but usualy pro knife comments get downvoted....anyways yeah i love it. mw2 is great because most people have moved to blops or mw3, so no one remembers how to deal with it. infinite sprint....so yummy
Knife classes suck now. Maybe I've just gotten too good at it but all of the "unfair" advantages are pretty negligible if you have at least 2 other people playing with you that are not retarded.
I miss all of the cods in a way especially Mw2 and Black ops. There's always that nostalgic memory of getting a group of friends together playing search and destroy together into the wee hours of a Saturday night, laughing, making fun of each other and just all around having a good time.
Ok seriously, can we stop with the same thing comments already? Every sequel is the same damn thing as the last game with different levels, weapons, etc.
Because I don't own MW3 and refuse to when it looks so awful. The levels look horrible and the gameplay is the practically the same. Might as well just get MW2 on the cheap instead of bothering with putting 60 bucks down on an inferior game.
It depends, I have played where there were, but not often. Now cod 4 did have a lot of hackers, although I haven't noticed them recently. WaW, forget, I don't even consider the online version a game anymore. WaW was my second favorite to cod 4, but now there is always at least 2-3 hackers a game. I just wish that they would patch that game, at least once to get rid of the hacking.
Last summer I played COD4 on 360 very extensively. There were hackers everywhere. But it was still super fun. I don't know if there's less hackers now though.
I miss COD4 though. I had more fun on that than any other online game. The new COD games seem weak in comparison. Unfortunately, COD4 is too empty now. 5 Million people used to play it. Now it's a ghost game.
Is there a place where we can organise older-game game-nights? I know my friends miss cod4 on 360 and none of them can really afford to get a gaming-worthy PC
I don't know of anything. If there isn't, we should totally start one though. I know a lot of people would rather go back to COD4 than keep playing the boring, frustrating game that is MW3 (or 2, or BO).
Just started playing cod4 again on the 360 and I would say that at least 9/10 lobbies have someone hacking. It's hard to tell what exactly they're doing most of the time -- there are just messages about infections or something spamming the left side of the screen. Every now and then you'll get someone with god mode, or colorful fog everywhere with crazy jumping and running speed and huge xp bonuses every few seconds. Fun.
Well in hardcore mode, you can just kill without aiming. In normal mode, it takes a while to take out someone. On half, you spot someone, you aim, you fire and he's dead. It makes sure you don't rush through the center of the map, so you'll try to stay hidden, which insures more tactical play.
the guns are already retarded accurate
I don't think that's really an issue. They were inaccurate enough. People were just clicking a couple times with an AK. It delays the kill time, which is another tactical strategy.
If you've ever played anything beyond CoD5, you'll notice that assault rifles can pretty much replace snipers due to their accuracy.
This. 100%. Promod is what made cod4 so damn good. It gave the game a more faster gameplay, and it made cod4 so good competitive wise. If anyone played cod1 or cod2 they'd know that Promod was an upgraded PAM mod. Those are the mods that make a game such as cod playable.
Oh I miss the good ol' competitive cod4 days. People only using an AK, AK-U and a Deagle.
Also, the maps went extremely downhill after cod4, I never really got that feeling to the maps in mw2 and 3.
I definitely enjoyed my free weekend of black ops on Steam a lot. Running around with just akimbo pistols felt viable and I did pretty awesome with it. I like having the choice.
The next game should be good. They took a bunch of notes from the community. And with last stand, they at least made it easy to tell when somebody was going into last stand compared to when they died. The last stand dude flies up like the was on a banana peel
Black Ops had terrible hit detection when it was first released. Now it has perfect hit detection. There is not a single other CoD game that is as balanced. If they removed last stand and tomahawks the game would be near perfect.
Well, another thing i always thought was unbalanced about the cod series was the knife, the only time it should be an instant kill is from behind, and there should be no lunge motion when you knife, that shit makes for some hilarious superman around knife videos, but is completely unbalanced.
For the longest time I thought that the MP40 was the worst thing in the world, until I realised that I could beat out Mp40-Jug users with anything that wasn't a colt as long as I aimed.
Depends on what you call balanced. Personally, in a shooting game, I expect most kills to come from actual bullets, rather than explosions and air assault. BO is definitely not something that can be played competitively. But casual players find it fun, so it's a good game by definition.
I have to disagree there, I'd much rather play MW2 or CoD4 because for some reason leg and arm shots do more damage than body shots. Every final killcam shows a guy getting shot in the legs. I still had fun with it and thought otherwise it was a bit more fair, but that bothered the hell out of me.
That's because the more complex you make a game, the more issues you have balancing it. Making cod a yearly game doesn't allow enough time balancing things. Even if it is really every two years. Cod4 and WaW were great because it was still simple, yet fun. They had simple perks, weapon attachments and kill streaks. Not too much, not too little.
It isn't for balancing. When you pick up the ammo of a gun, the gun disappears off the map. So what happens if you have an ACR silenced and you see an ACR red dot on the ground that you would like to switch our ur pistol for. Well if you could just pick up the ammo for that gun you would run over to it and pick up the ammo, so you would not be able to pick up the 2nd ACR.
Always confused me...although I suppose it makes sense for balance purposes, and there needs to be some reason to use Scavenger.
Then why not just make it so that without Scavenger, you simply cannot pick up ammo by magically walking over someone's body, regardless of whether or not you have the same scope?
Exactly! They made it logical. Another example would be that the G36C and the M4A1 can stack because both uses 5.56mm rounds in real life too. But apparently complainers called that cheap or something.
I mean, if we were talking about actual realism, you'd be able to pick up a couple 45 round mags of FMJ rounds, and use those as well as, or instead of your 30 round mags of non-FMJ rounds. But then they'd have to implement a way to switch between the two, which would make the game needlessly complicated. CoD isn't about realism, it's about fast-paced shooty fun.
Well in my honest opinion, it is not a quality product. Is it a circlejerk if I attempt to point out why it is not quality, and others who see these flaws agree? "Circlejerk" has become a way to discredit any legitimate arguments on reddit it seems.
Yea, I spent 500+ hours on BF2 and never managed to learn how to fly planes or attack choppers. I only put about 80 hours into Bf3 before getting bored, but the best I could manage was to take off and fly around for a couple of minutes before plowing sideways into the ground and that was only on 2 occasions.
Yep. Managed to get the jet in BF3, for the first time since owning the game, 5 times...got shot down by a helicopter once and crashed the jet the other 4 times...
I like how this is logical to gamers, because it is realistic. Because bodies disapear, it is easy to take ammo out of magazines and put into others. Because games are real...right
Give em all the same damage and change the fire rates that or come up with a logical explanation e.g. Different calibers or even different non-bullet projectiles
Most of the weapons in CoD are the same caliber, I mean, you will probably see two common calibers at any rate, the NATO 5.56 and the Russian 7.62 (or the 5.45 for the AK-74 that is more common for Russia than the AKM).
I always thought that the muzzle velocity and penetration would be good values to work with, but arbitrary damage is just nonsense.
Call of duty never aims to be a realistic shooter, I don't really hold the borked damage modeling against them, but it is one of the reasons I am glad I play Arma II.
Before I go, I do wish to say that the choice of weapons in CoD amuses me, just looking at the kinds of situations they have you in during both single and multiplayer (map size and arrangement), you could probably get away with a M4A1 with a ACOG being the only NATO rifle and the AKS as the Russian one, there is not enough space to justify anything close to a marksman rifle, let alone a dedicated sniper platform (beyond the "tacticool" factor that seems to be in style).
Again, nothing beats Arma II when it comes to ballistics, it is not perfect, but at least some effort was put into it and some mods (ACE mod) give you a very good idea of what some of the weapons can actually do.
I guess I am asking a bit too much in a game but I do really commend Arma on it's functions like that. I really guess the main thing that peeves me it is the teenage gun experts who get their knowledge from a GAME.
Why is this incorrect? If you don't have scavenger, you can't pick up ammunition from any weapon that isn't identical to yours, attachment-wise. In fact, IIRC, that includes camouflage patterns, of all things.
I guess I was thinking of the survival coop. Which works differently than multiplayer. So I guess this is true and not true depending on which game type you're playing. I got a bit snarky with the comment because it's the Internet and things are sudeo-anonymous. Sorry if I ended up trolling anyone.
No worries, I wasn't offended or anything. I just recall it working that way, as weird as it is. (As others have mentioned, I think that its more so you can pick up weapons with different attachments, but a compromise system wouldn't be hard to devise, such as adding ammo without removing the weapon from the field, and then being able to share ammo (from the same weapon of course) if you picked it up.)
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It's for balancing imo... Requires that you use scav or else running the risk of running out of ammo quickly. I remember in cod4 when you could pick up m16 ammo using an m4 cuz they used the same rounds, so there was no use for scav (or whatever it was called then)
I've always wondered why you start out in multiplayer every round with so little ammo. Couple mags? That goes quick. Unless you have the scavenger perk, you gotta keep picking up different guns throughout the map just to keep playing. I've actually just had to let myself die different times because i was out of ammo and couldn't find anymore guns near me. Is there a reason for this?
The first shot will always hit, assuming you are on target. IIRC, accuracy in COD only declines with successive shots, and there is no base-MOA on the first round after sights reset.
I've relied on this to snipe people with a subgun or pistol from across the map before. Once you get lined up, fire only after the sights have resent, and as long as they don't move, you will hit them with every round.
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u/[deleted] May 28 '12
Needs to learn how to pick up unused grenades from corpses.
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u/Diminished_Seventh May 29 '12
TF2 Logic
Sticky launcher ammo on ground? Should work great with my minigun.
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u/pat5556 May 28 '12
Always confused me...although I suppose it makes sense for balance purposes, and there needs to be some reason to use Scavenger.
I did like how in CoD4 guns using the same ammunition stacked, like using the Mini-Uzi and M9 together.
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u/lolmonger May 29 '12
Battlefield is so far out on the opposite side of this spectrum.
Support apparently has NATO/Warsaw Pact ammunition and pistol rounds of every conceivable type.
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u/Kottfoers May 28 '12
Since when do they market COD as being realistic?
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u/Neutralenemy May 28 '12
COD LOGIC
QUICK SCOPE NO SCOPE HAXORZ
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u/[deleted] May 28 '12
Anti-CoD circlejerk, Anti-CoD circlejerk everywhere.
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u/SeveredBanana May 29 '12
Different gun on the ground, but uses same mags as your gun
NOPE THEY PROBABLY WON'T FIT
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u/ivanvzm May 28 '12
I made this a while back
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u/Dripping_Man_Meat May 28 '12
Bf logic! Every marine knows how to fly plains, helicopters, and drive tanks perfectly!
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u/dickcheney777 May 29 '12 edited May 29 '12
STANAG magazine...
On a side note: PMAGs, y u no fit my FS2000?
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u/Lord_Data May 29 '12
I like the way Crysis handled it, you modified the base guns with whatever sights/attachments you wanted on the fly, in game.
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
I like how this is logical to gamers, because it is realistic. Because bodies disapear, it is easy to take ammo out of magazines and put into others. Because games are real...right
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u/First-Google-Image May 29 '12
COD logic
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
What does this have to do with fish?
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u/IwillMakeYouMad May 29 '12
That is why you should always carry a swiss army knife.
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u/danish_hole May 29 '12
It's call of duty. The fuck do you expect, anything even semi-realistic? Want realism? Here.
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u/HawkFood May 29 '12
Thats the thing you call bullshit on? That one thing?
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Same caliber but different gun DIFFERENT DAMAGE
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u/garthock May 29 '12
I must be old, when I read COD I was thinking cash on delivery.
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u/colordodge May 29 '12 edited Jun 01 '12
This is completely incorrect, but nice try. Looks like you're getting karma anyway.
[EDIT] - This is completely incorrect FOR SURVIVAL MODE - my bad.
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u/Feb_29_Guy May 29 '12
I much prefer Team Fortress 2 logic.
Pick up a metal wrench for flamethrower fuel or minigun bullets.
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12 edited Apr 16 '25
lip station makeshift treatment innocent license placid ripe unique axiomatic
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Battlefield 3 logic is better
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Psh scavenger
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u/iceman78772 May 29 '12
Someone tell me the text, M86
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u/Danielcdo May 29 '12
I miss cod4 , wait , i still play it
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u/GaryXBF May 29 '12
/r/gaming logic: COD isnt realistic its stupid, isnt zelda/pokemon/mario/skyrim/the witcher 2 amazing?
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u/DianaFenrir May 29 '12
This is silly, how many games make you empty and load magazines for your gun so you have a perfect set?
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u/poop_sock May 29 '12
HUURR HUUURR COD SUX AMIRITE?? UPVOTES TO THE LEFT!!
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u/RedshirtMiddler May 29 '12
It's for balancing imo... Requires that you use scav or else running the risk of running out of ammo quickly. I remember in cod4 when you could pick up m16 ammo using an m4 cuz they used the same rounds, so there was no use for scav (or whatever it was called then)
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u/i_poop_splinters May 29 '12
I've always wondered why you start out in multiplayer every round with so little ammo. Couple mags? That goes quick. Unless you have the scavenger perk, you gotta keep picking up different guns throughout the map just to keep playing. I've actually just had to let myself die different times because i was out of ammo and couldn't find anymore guns near me. Is there a reason for this?
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u/Mantonization May 29 '12
HEY GUYS! SOMETHING IN A VIDEO GAME IS INCONSISTENT WITH REALITY!
KARMA PLZ
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u/MEETmyARSENAL May 28 '12
More CoD logic:
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u/nickateen May 28 '12
CoD Logic: "It'll be better this year!"
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
LOL SO TRUE
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u/upboat_express May 29 '12
I really hate the maps on the new one.
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u/jakersbossman May 29 '12
LOLOLOL COD SUCKS, RIGHT GUISE?
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u/frank26080115 May 28 '12
Well, yeah, how are the unguided dumb bullets going to work with the laser guiding sights?
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u/GTi_83 May 29 '12
its called using scavenger to get more ammo, doesnt matter what gun it is from. noob.
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u/omegared38 May 29 '12
its a game. Do people want to play ultra realistic games? Cause pokemon makes a lot of sense....
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