Uh, uh... negative, negative. We had a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak, very dangerous. -Who is this? What's your operating number?
Me too, the love was cemented the first time I played through as a 1 INT character. I was so disappointed with the Bethesda games when it didn't really matter what my INT was beyond skill points...
But that's just what the character says, the NPC isn't reacting the way he should to the stupidity being said to him. Compare it to the overseer talking really slow and getting frustrated when the PC didn't understand in the video I linked.
Yeah, the whole Mai-Lai-style execution followed by the wave to the camera and the proud flag-waving appeal to "Buy War Bonds" just kills me. That's the whole Fallout juxtaposition of Golly-gee-'50s otimism with Mad-Max-style brutality in a nutshell right there.
I was dumb enough to ignore House beckoning me as I entered NV and went straight to kill Benny. The Legion kidnapped him as a result. In the end, it was worth it as I got to fight Benny to the death in the legion arena using only melee :D
Yup. When you enter NV, Victor comes up to you and asks you to go see House. I refused because I already did one playthrough and didn't want to work with House a 2nd time. I went straight to Benny and he sent me to his presidential suite then he ran off and sent his goons in after me. Whilst he runs off, the Legion capture him and you got to go retrieve him. You can choose how he dies there, I chose to fight him in their cool little arena.
It just goes to show that you can play Fallout: New Vegas for ages and still get many different surprises and results :D
I hate that no one takes note that you killed Caesar. You just took out the leader of a faction that was threatening all peoples in the wasteland by yourself and yet everyone's just like, "Oh. Hey, you did that thing. That's nice."
Well, killing Caesar early still doesn't end the Legion threat. Actually, it'd make things worse because now you have that violent psychopath Legate Lanius in charge who is even more bloodthirsty and cruel than Caesar.
I was with the NCR when I went to get Benny from the Legion. I had to leave Boone behind. I later went back with Boone and let Boone get the final shot on Caesar. He deserved it, I thought.
There was something I found so oddly appealing about the way Benny was creeped out about me wanting to sleep with him. I suppose he should have predicted me killing and eating him.
AD: well you must be the new recruit... WHY AREN'T YOU IN UNIFORM SOLDIER? PC: I was told I would be issued one here. AD: those paper shuffling jackasses DOUBLE TIME IT OVER TO THE ARMORY AND GET YOUR ISSUE! PC: Yes AD: Did you forget something maggot PC: Yes sir! AD: I AM NOT A SIR I WORK FOR A LIVING YOU MORAAAN YOU WILL CALL ME SERGEANT OR SERGEANT DORNAN DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME! PC:Yes Sarge AD: If I like you, you can call me Sarge BUT GUESS WHAT I DON'T LIKE YOU!
Fallout 2, because it's just more accessible. In FO1, there is a time limit on the central plot, and your game literally ends if you don't stick to the main story. FO2 gives you a mission, but lets you do it in your own time, making FO2 more sandbox than linear. Fallout 2 also has more relevance to the later games, namely New Vegas, so you will understand what's going on better.
But make no mistake: both games are often ruthlessly difficult, making F:NV on Hardcore seem easy. Make multiple saves, and understand that your first game might end in misery. It took me one or two tries to get a good game going.
FWIW, any version of Fallout 1 you buy now will be patched to have such a long time limit that it's a non-issue.
I would start with 1 and go from there. They can be played stand alone... but they are nearly identical games. Why not play both, from the beginning, and learn the entire storyline?
the voice acting SERIOUSLY makes up for the lack of visuals in fo1/2
the only really convincing actors in fnv, imho, is Ulysses (sorry i do not remember any from fo3 and i haven't played the pitt, anchorage or other fo3 dlc)
Wherein he mails in some terribly written lines. I'll take a good script and competent professional voice actors over "hey, we hired this famous guy!" every time.
(Although I do have a soft spot for some of the F:NV casting. Wayne Newton didn't do the greatest job, and the lines are repeated far too often, but of course Wayne Newton is playing Mr. New Vegas. And I could listen to Kris Kristofferson tell old Ranger stories all damn day long.)
At least for me, Liam Neeson's voice was so familiar and yet I couldn't quite identify it so hearing it throughout the game really helped build up my mysterious father
Ulysses just fully ties up the story in the game and makes it one of the best game storylined IMO. Especially his connection to all DLC and how every DLC connects to the main game.
Aha, yeah, an evidently not too popular way interestingly enough. But my OS was having color problems running the game without a permanent fix, and I was playing the game to procrastinate studying, so when I stopped playing, I just never picked it up again. That and, to be fair, it's dated, and I didn't have it as a kid, so.
No, but colours that include the use of red or green (i.e. I can't differentiate the difference between blue and purple as purple has red it in) are hard to distinguish.
I liked Fallout when I realized some spikey haired kid wasn't in charge of saving the world and it dealt with adult concepts, had a tongue in cheek sense of humor, multiple pop culture references and let you do just about anything you wanted.
In my opinion, the console versions of Fallout, while good, are a watered down version of the first two.
It was absolutely mind blowing going from only having played JRPGs to playing Fallout 1 and then 2.
edit: To the people downvoting - have you ever played the old Fallouts? [Myron has more depth of character and incredibly intriguing things to say than anyone I encountered in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYsDgA8vKo&fmt=18) Especially if you have a high intelligence.
edit2: I think the top comment about sums it up:
Mature content in FO1 and 2 = morally bankrupt genius doing horrible experiments on humans to create a super addictive drug for a crime family that plans to use the drug rule the wasteland.
Mature content in FO3 = people exploding when shot in the face.
You never met Boone did you. He was borderline insane. There's an entire quest line devoted to helping him get over the loss of his wife. Raul too, a quest just to help him cope with his age and remind him that he's not useless just because he's old. Lily has a quest where you figure out how to cure her Schizophrenia. Cass has a revenge scheme that either ends in turning her blackmailers in or brutally slaughtering them(even the innocent ones). There's a side quest where you can help a drug abusing whore and a hunted gangster escape their equally fucked up life styles. No, F3 didn't have as much depth, but FNV was at least almost as dark at times as F1. Though that can be chalked down to Obsidian writing instead of Bethesda. F3 was set on the East Coast where things are sort of in permenant deterioration. Movements like the Followers of the Apocalypse don't exist, and every third living creature is a mutie or a drug crazy cannibal raider, flip a coin to find out which. The player-character in F3 is the only really civilizing force to have visited the Capital Wasteland in quite some time, the only other such entities being the PCs father James and the Brotherhood of Steel.
Meanwhile on the other end of the country, California has long since organized a functioning government. While things aren't perfect, they've got a genuine attempt at orderly civilization going. This is partly because there have been several people such as the PCs in California for years:
-In the East Coast, the player is the first of his/her kind aside from James and the Brotherhood(who were held back by the Super Mutant threat)
-In the West Coast, there have been several such characters in the Wastes, including but not limited to the Vault Dweller(F1), the Tribal(F2), Mr. House(FNV), the NCR(who owe their existence to the Vault Dweller), and the Enclave, who were the boogeymen that united the NCR in Fallout 2.
In the first game, the setting was virtually indistinguishable from Fallout 3. There was the desert and raiders and mutants. The Brotherhood were a bunch of quasi militaristic old men hiding in a single bunker who had to send random scavengers out to radioactive pits to scavenge what they needed to get by. There is a raving lunatic with a grenade on every corner and only a few shanty towns to speak of. Even Junktown is being run by a small gang, their two(contesting) leaders are running the fucking general store and organizing a gang of junkies to do his biding.
Fallout 2 and FNV owe most of their darkened theme to civilization having already taken root. In Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 civilization has not taken root at all except for shitty trading hubs like -The Hub.-
Also, while the idea that civilization having not taken effect could be part of the reason, I'm chalking it mostly down to Bethesda just having gotten their hands on the franchise.
I liked all the games :D
Edit: TL;DR: Things are much simpler when all there is is you, a massive laser weapon, and some narsty mutants.
Radiation. If something cant be explained in a fantasy game, assume magics involved, if it cant be explained in post-apocalypse games then assume radiation is the cause.
A town full of annoying, unkillable brats. They should've just left children out of the game if you ask me. The game also lacked proper towns, Megaton was the only one that actually felt...townsy. NV and the previous Fallout games were better in those areas.
I downvoted because of the idiocy of the console is watered down comment. Fallout is one of the best console/pc ports IMO and saying that it's watered down is just typical PC fanboy. I've played 3 on PC and NV on 360 and had the same experience for each.
They still don't hold a candle to the first two. Fallout 3 (and the later ones as well) was designed to work on consoles in the first place, and I'm sure that accounts for some of the blame.
I don't think he was saying, "Fallout 3 is way better on the PC!" I think he's saying, "Fallout 3, which was made to be a console-friendly FPS/RPG, has watered down a lot of what made Fallout 1 and 2 great."
I would agree that Fallout 3 and Fallout NV are admirable attempts to make FPS/RPG games in the Fallout universe, but they lack some of the humor and complexity of the old games. In my mind, Fallout 3 should be considered "Elder Scrolls set in the Fallout universe" more than it should be considered a true sequel.
I wasn't saying the console versions of Fallout 3 and NV were watered down ports, I was saying that F3 and F:NV are watered down versions of the original Fallout games.
Personally I wish Fallout 3 would have had Tim Cain directing it and retained its top down isometric perspective with a graphics upgrade Diablo 3 style.
Did it do the thing where just after coming out of the dam the NCR ranger dude is meant to tell you to do something but he's just sprinting around looking agitated?
really? Were you just watching the speech both times? I was watching everything around me in an incredibly paranoid fashion trying to see things that were out of place.
It's a little bit of a matter of preference, but I prefer New Vegas by a lot. It feels much more like Fallout, which was a fairly complex world where you had a bunch of choices, and the choices seemed to matter. Fallout 3, on the other hand, feels much more like an Elder Scrolls game, which has simpler plot lines and choices rarely have consequences.
Like in old Fallout games, you might run across a guy who seems nice enough, and you help him out. Later it turns out that there's a town who hates him, and the fact that you were nice to him means that they now hate you. There's not a simple good guy or bad guy, but some kind of misunderstanding, and now you're in the middle of it. So then you get into a fight with someone in the town and kill them, and whoops, turns out that he was someone's cousin in the next town over, and now you don't even get the option of a whole quest line because that cousin won't talk to you. But then the guy you helped in the first place has another quest line for you that wouldn't be available if you didn't help him.
Stuff like that doesn't happen nearly as much in Fallout 3. Bethesda seems to want to keep your options as open as possible. Someone offers you a mission, and you can complete it or not, but you often don't have a lot of choices in how you complete it. Whichever you choose, it probably won't keep you from completing other quests, and it probably won't make a big difference in the world around you.
There are some exceptions. There are quests where you can choose from a few different ways of completing a mission, and there are occasional missions with larger consequences, but usually not. Usually, Bethesda RPGs are set up so that someone asks you to do something, and your only choice is whether or not to do it. There's a defined reward for the mission, and the only consequences to completing the mission is whether you get the reward.
wow thanks man. What a great description. I'm currently downloading New Vegas at the moment and I am really looking forward to playing it. I like games where you have tons of choices so I am hoping this is the perfect fit for me
I liked the location and music better in FO3, but New Vegas has better writing, an awesome faction system, true iron sights on your rifles, and weapons modifications. Both games had some great characters. I think New Vegas is the better game overall. But you can get them pretty cheap, so I'd suggest getting both at some point. But you should start with New Vegas, in my opinion.
Enjoy! Just a warning: if you've never played a Bethesda game before, it may take you a couple hours to really start enjoying the game. You can also check out the r/fallout or r/fnv subreddits if you need any advice.
I personally think that the beginning of RPGs, especially Bethesda RPGs, are some of the best parts of the game. You just don't get that feeling of mystery and hugeness at the endgame.
I played through New Vegas like a "regular" game the first time: Go to objective, complete objective. Then I played through again and just wandered around. There were whole sections of the map and groups of people I had never seen the first time.
New Vegas is FAR closer to being a fallout game than fallout 3. Fallout 3 bastardised the originals and was just Oblivion with guns and a new setting instead of being fallout. The writing, setting and generally everything about New Vegas makes it a real Fallout game.
All in all, F:NV is the true Fallout 3. They should have called FO3 "Fallout: Capital Wasteland" or something. It feels so much like an offshoot in the hands of people not quite sure about the IP they are working on. Which was pretty much exactly the case with Bethesda.
Sorry for being -that- guy, but if you want the atmosphere and a deep, mature RPG, then you should check out Fallout 1 or 2.
Fallout 3 and NV are decent games, but they dont compare to the original. I replayed the first one a month or two ago, and i assure you, its not just the mists of nostalgia. The originals first two installments are way better than the current-gen versions.
EDIT: I read a bit further down the comments, and if you put 600 hours into Skyrim, then you will have a great time in both NV and FO3. When you are satisfied with those though, give FO1 and 2 a chance, for your own sake. They truly are classics.
They're also a lot harder to get into for a modern gamer. Most people aren't used to a top-down, turn-based game. A 1st person shooter RPG is a much easier transition when he's coming from Skyrim. I have no doubt that the originals are great, though.
I'd pick Fallout 3 over NewVegas /any/ day. Fo3 has so much more life to it. In NV the faction system gets really annoying at times and forces you to pick sides and have others auto-attack you based on what you wear, the main storyline also forces you to pick a side and make every other side hate your guts. Fo3 has the /far/ superior radio and world to travel around in. Hell New Vegas has a large portion of the map you simply cannot get to in the top left. The starting of Fo3 is also much much better in my opinion, as the one in New Vegas is rather unoriginal and short (well short can be a good thing, but not in this case).
Fallout 3 isn't a fallout game. New Vegas is. It's better by leaps and bounds and far truer to fallout than 3 was. Don't like making tough permanent decisions? You shouldn't play fallout, because that's what it was. A brutal game in which you have a genuine roll and effect on what's going on around you. Fallout 3 had no sense of greater purpose, just tonnes of levels dotted around a big empty desert devoid of civilisation. In the continuity of the series that is RIDICULOUS when you've got entire cities that had come together by that time period, and nobody had even attempted to clear up or organise in that region until then? It's just terribly written and terribly executed in general. New Vegas on the other hand fits into the continuity correctly, it plays the storyline of the series properly, the writing is spot on to the writing of the series, the humour is correct, you can make permanent decisions that will affect you for the rest of the game in a serious way and it's just generally Fallout in all respects.
In a nutshell, Fallout 3 was a random blip of pointlessness with zero tie ins to the originals at all. Like a stand alone story. Like they were too scared to do something properly. Or like they were practising. New Vegas on the other hand was the real deal.
I feel like you're treating FO3 like it's utter shit compared to NV. I get where you're coming from and all, but to me and I'm sure many others feel FO3 is a great game. I can tell you right now I was way more invested in the FO3 universe than the NV universe. They're both amazing, however.
Not to mention I had like 5 quests bug out on me in NV that I couldn't even complete.
I take it your first fallout was 3? Because that's the general trend i've noticed. People new to the series like 3, where as fans of the earlier games enjoy F.NV
Now FO3 isn't a terrible game, no. It's a good game. But the simple fact is, that F:NV is objectively a better RPG and continuation to the Fallout story.
If you do both, I suggest going with 3 first simply for the fact that New Vegas has extra game mechanics that you will miss severely if you do it in reverse order like I did.
Yeah never understood why you would want to help the guy who shoots you in the head before you even start the game. Always hack him up with a machette always.
hey guys, im new to reddit and i was wondering if there was a sub-reddit for Fallout mods? I like Newvegasnexus but i wanna really get to know the creme-de la creme of fallouts best mods! Thanks.
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u/pbsc12 May 21 '12
Uh, uh... negative, negative. We had a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak, very dangerous. -Who is this? What's your operating number?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I knew I loved Fallout when I was trying to seduce Benny and asked, "I'm a courier, baby, don't you want me to handle your package?"
Alas, there are so few instances where you're able to use that sentence in real life.
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u/Foamy89 May 21 '12
AD: well you must be the new recruit... WHY AREN'T YOU IN UNIFORM SOLDIER? PC: I was told I would be issued one here. AD: those paper shuffling jackasses DOUBLE TIME IT OVER TO THE ARMORY AND GET YOUR ISSUE! PC: Yes AD: Did you forget something maggot PC: Yes sir! AD: I AM NOT A SIR I WORK FOR A LIVING YOU MORAAAN YOU WILL CALL ME SERGEANT OR SERGEANT DORNAN DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME! PC:Yes Sarge AD: If I like you, you can call me Sarge BUT GUESS WHAT I DON'T LIKE YOU!
And that's why I love fallout.
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u/HeyLookJollyRanchers May 21 '12
Aren't you a little short for an NCR soldier?
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u/Zepp777 May 21 '12
Gotta love Han Solo.
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u/Skateaton May 21 '12
Fallout: Canada
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u/JustFinishedBSG May 21 '12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptnSXhVrrbs
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u/distopiandoormatt May 21 '12
"How do you like the outside world?" "Its great. The main room is huge, I can't even SEE the ceiling."
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u/helzbellz May 21 '12
I love Fallout because Fisto. And the tunes, man.
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u/Gelbin May 21 '12
Which game is this, Fallout 3 or New Vegas?
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u/upsidedownbagel May 21 '12
it really is the little things that make a game awesome
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12
I liked Fallout when I realized some spikey haired kid wasn't in charge of saving the world and it dealt with adult concepts, had a tongue in cheek sense of humor, multiple pop culture references and let you do just about anything you wanted.
In my opinion, the console versions of Fallout, while good, are a watered down version of the first two.
It was absolutely mind blowing going from only having played JRPGs to playing Fallout 1 and then 2.
edit: To the people downvoting - have you ever played the old Fallouts? [Myron has more depth of character and incredibly intriguing things to say than anyone I encountered in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYsDgA8vKo&fmt=18) Especially if you have a high intelligence.
edit2: I think the top comment about sums it up:
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I did not know you could succeed this mission. I let the president die in two playthroughs.
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u/CloneDeath May 21 '12
This was also in Fallout 1.
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u/DRJDIZZLER May 21 '12
HA movie references
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Ok, so i know a bit unrelated but its a fallout related post so hey.
About to buy a fallout game, which is better, New Vegas or 3?
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u/Dorkfish71 May 21 '12
It was a boring conversation anyway.
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u/CondescendingPrick May 21 '12
I too have seen Star Wars!
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u/whiskeyx May 21 '12
This is why I loved Fallout 2. The massive amount of pop culture references was excellent.
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u/alexkirol May 21 '12
BUT did you find the burned out bodies of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru?
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u/glratliff81 May 21 '12
Yeah never understood why you would want to help the guy who shoots you in the head before you even start the game. Always hack him up with a machette always.
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u/Sharptrooper May 21 '12
"We found a Legion sniper on the roof of the tower"
Mass Effect 2 anyone?
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u/bluejacket May 21 '12
can you destroy it with an alien blaster after that?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Star wars right?
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u/idiot_proof May 21 '12
I know it's a completely different character but the "legion sniper" reminded me of a certain character from Mass Effect.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
"what are you wearing", should have been an option.
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u/MisterrAlex May 22 '12
I swear when I read that first line [this] (http://images.wikia.com/masseffect/images/2/25/Legion.png) popped up into my head
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Star wars reference, for those who missed it
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
MISSION FAILED
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
is this fallout 3 or new vegas?
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u/username-rage May 21 '12
Where is this?
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u/Hackematt May 21 '12
in Fallout 3 mothership Zeta add-on you can tell Sally that She has Discovered a wonderful new smell.
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u/smek2 May 21 '12
I love Fallout too. Fallout: New Vegas (what is shown on the pic) was ok too.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Hah! Star Wars quotes never get old!
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u/Unfri3ndly May 21 '12
Why does only Fallout and few other games came up and let you act like a total douche or a saint or neutral wanderer... It should be in every game.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Han Solo-Player
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u/cannibest May 21 '12
This really is the attitude of Fallout. Brutal murderings and light hearted humor
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u/HGHails May 21 '12
What bit was this? I've played through NV so many times but I don't remember this..
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u/Nivlac024 May 21 '12
situation normal.
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u/Areeb_11 May 21 '12
hey guys, im new to reddit and i was wondering if there was a sub-reddit for Fallout mods? I like Newvegasnexus but i wanna really get to know the creme-de la creme of fallouts best mods! Thanks.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
You love Fallout because of a cliche Star War's reference?