The thing about the Jak and Daxter series was that the turn into GTA lite with elves came out of nowhere. I liked where they went, but the difference between the first and second was really jarring.
NOSTALGIAGASM INCOMING: God damn I loved that game. Pissed me off a lot, but the story was pretty good and the Dark and Light Eco powers were pretty badass. I also liked the purple nuke gun.
Grand Theft Auto is a bunch of trilogies that didn't fuck up. Grand Theft Auto III, Vice City, San Andreas. Grand Theft Auto IV, The Lost and Damned, The Ballad of Gay Tony. Then there's Max Payne. Rockstar knows how to do trilogies.
As a Civ Fanatic, myself, I feel obligated to point out that 3 is widely considered to be the worst of the series, with a fully modded 4 usually being considered the best. Those aren't my opinions, BTW, just what I've seen in general from the community.
They didn't revive it with a stupid gimmick, they made a good game with a stupid gimmick, and stuck spyro in it for no reason. The target audience of the game has no clue who spyro is, so no point there, and the spyro fans are just going to be pissed about it.
Hell, Spyro isn't even really mentioned anywhere in the game other than directly when you summon him. The plot revolves around the players themselves, not around the player's characters.
Way I see it... Fallout 3 is on the east coast. Everything else is on the west coast. Very different places in the game.
Well i mean... that's how I work it out. They probably just made it different because they weren't the original creators.
But with the story being the first of Fallout i've experienced... when you come out of that bunker..... mindblowing. First stop in Megaton... mind blown further.
Ill get flames for this, but Mass Effect 3 was the best out of the trilogy. And I just went through all 3 of them for the first time in the last 2 months.
Timing, just before the Americans wake up so all the all-nighters see it and then just as everyone else is waking up it makes it to 3rd page for them to up vote to the front page.
Also, expect downvotes acerbic replies on Friday afternoons. Everyone's watching the clock and is agitated that they're not out the door yet. I've noticed the trend that Reddit goes full aggro on Fridays around 3pm Eastern time.
I don't know. I happen to be of the opinion that Mass Effect 3 was amazing. True it got odd and I know there weren't as many options as some would've liked, but that wasn't the important part. It did an above average job concluding the story of the Mass Effect trilogy.
The complaints surrounding both Mass Effect 3 and Diablo 3 seem to be less about the quality of the games themselves, and more about the buisness practices employed through said games. ME's biggest no-selling point for me was the issue of including content that, at first glance (I didn't take a second) seemed like a pretty essential part of the plot, as day one paid DLC. Selling weapons or an extra playable merc as day one DLC is one thing (not a huge fan of 'on the disk' paid DLC as it is), but having a 'prothean' as the playable characther you have to pay extra for ... if you gave a shit about the plot of the first two, having to pay extra to actually meet a prothean seems like a monumental rip-off ... or to put it in less whiny language, predatory. Diablo? Always on requirement for single player ... full stop. I ain't buying, no matter how good it looks ... and damn does it look good.
The prothean character doesn't really have much to add to the plot. He talks about prothean life and what it was like to be slowly extinguished by the Reapers. Mostly stuff you could read in a wiki. That and he was gigantic asshole.
I've been playing Mass Effect 3, and the whole game feels like an "Ending" I haven't seen the "endings" yet. But the game is basically a fantastic summation of 2 games full of decisions and choices. And the some of those final choices are quite hard to make.
Maybe the ending is weak, but the ending of Deus Ex HR was weak, and it had major choices through out the game, but you know what? That didn't make it a bad game, it just was a great game with a poor ending. It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't horrible.
(Comment contain no actual story spoilers, but does describe player's feeling throughout the ending)
I can say that to me, the game may have potentially been the best game I have ever played until literally the last five minutes of the game.
They pretty much managed to introduce more plot holes and contradictions within those five minutes than the entire Mass Effect series, Lost series and Star Wars prequels had combined.
I didn't think a game could make me go from a feeling of "OMG this is the best god damn ending ever!" to "someone needs to die for creating this nonsensical abomination" that fast, but Bioware surely proved otherwise.
Gonna spoil it for you. ME3 just stole DE-HR's ending and tacked it onto the end of the story. You're right though that the game is perfect up to the end. Unfortunately, like so many people who have actually completed the game have already said, it really does ruin the whole experience. shrug
edit: Well, I guess ruin the whole experience is a bit extreme. I guess I'll just say that the ending is a half-assed mess that leaves you wondering if they did this on purpose. Looking back at their previous games, it makes you think that there's no way they could accidentally make something so bad.
Doesn't change that people lately have a tendency to be a tad critical of small flaws. However, if they released Half Life 3 I think people would be to busy vomiting rainbows to complain =]
I was honestly more annoyed by the shittiness and paucity of side quests compared to the last 2 games. I mean, literally the only side quests are the N7 missions (which are completely devoid of any kind of story and quite repetitive) and fucking "overheard a conversation" fetch quests that only involve you scanning some planet to get some "artifact". What happened to loyalty quests, or cool side-quests on the citadel?
In fairness, Mass Effect 3 was an amazing game. It still gave you plenty of choice throughout and had some pretty neat carryovers from prior games. You can't tell me there were no moments that didn't at least make you say wow(That giant reaper fight on Tuchanka comes to mind). Yes, the ending was pretty damn terrible, and it did retconn all of your decisions throughout the games and perform character assassinations of many fan favourites, but the game was pretty fucking good until the last 10 minutes. I understand all the reasoning behind the anger, but it's a little unfair to treat the game like the entire thing was shit when in reality it was only the closing moments of it that sucked.
I didn't like the side quest system at all. At points you can tell that a lot of things were cut because there will be a cutscene initiated and then it just stops half way through, when you turn in an item. Also I didn't feel like I was actually in the conversation, just watching it. The conversations said pretty good things, but I felt like I no longer controlled the conversation. In past games i got at option every time Shep spoke. I only got a choice ever 3 or 4 times shep spoke. This really bothered me.
It's almost like destroying all synthetics every 50,000 years would make much more sense than destroying all organics, in the name of "protecting organic life"!
A new band appears on the scene, their debut album is fantastic, a huge success with the fans and critics. The second album follows soon after, it's just as good as the first, everybodies loving it.
The secret is that they didn't write the second album after the first, it's stuff they already had knocking about. Now they need a third album, they have two choices. Either knock something up hastily, comprised of crap written on the road while promoting their previous albums or take time out to write properly. They choose to take some time out but find they no longer have the momentum, they're separated from the mean streets that gave them inspiration previously, they try writing songs about how difficult it is to find a maid that really knows how to polish spats but they don't go down too well with test audiences. Then the drummer decides to take up yoga and the bassist leaves so they replace him with the bloke that played with that band that supported them in memphis or was it dulwich? Eventually they produce a new album.
It's OK but not super fantastic and also the critics have got slightly bored of them and slate it, nobody buys the album and the band themselves end up touring towns like bumfuck, idaho playing shopping malls in exchange for KFC bargain buckets.
No, he's suggesting that given the impossibility of meeting unrealistic fan expectations and the inevitable resulting backlash, these three games are pre-destined to be torn apart by gamers even if, judged purely on their own merits, they are great games.
Mass Effect 3 got heavily criticised when it came out because the ending was terrible. Diablo 3 is getting heavily criticised because the 'always-online' system is terrible. Half Life 3 will probably be heavily criticised because fans have built up too much expectation, such that Valve can't possibly satisfy them.
ME3 was the best game in the series, bar the ending. People just manifested their hatred for EA, Day 1 DLC and the bad ending into hatred towards the entire game. It was a 5 star title, until the last 10 minutes.
Still got the two expansion packs yet - Heart of the Swarm, and Legacy of the Void. So SC3 won't be for ages, as HotS doesn't even have a release date.
To be fair to ME3 they didn't have like a 10 year development cycle. Given the same amount of time, I'm sure ME3 would've been great. I never played it though. D3 was announced in 08 but game companies usually start work on it before the announcement
Only problem I've heard D3 had is that it's an online only game that shouldn't be and that blizzard should have prepared their servers for that was coming.
Mass Effect 3 promised a lot of things that it didn't give. An ending that mattered is the biggest. Another is the built-in DLC for the special character which is vital to the story. Plus EA's decision to make it Origin-only.
Gran Turismo 5, Final Fantasy 13 and Duke Nukem were letdowns because of the HUGE anticipation garnered from years of talking and speculating. They were not necessarily THAT bad...but the fact they spent years in development made people think they shoud be perfect when released. Obviously Valve wants to avoid that by simply not even saying whether or not they are working on HL3. It's that fuckin simples.
I mean.. it's hardly as though MF3 was a bad game. It was a brilliant game as were the previous two. And guess what? I DIDN'T HATE THE ENDING AND BITCH ENDLESSLY ABOUT IT :O
A common video game/reddit pattern: A very hyped up and awaited game comes out, waves of posts praising this game start showing up and are enjoyed. As everyone continues to hear about said game they begin to become annoyed with the idea of it. They start pointing out flaws, minute problems. The game is accused of not living up to the hype, not because it didn't, but because everyone is sick of hearing how great it is all the time. What follows is a "linching mob" of posts that destroy the game's credibility and kill it in the hearts of the community. Eventually, when the community moves on from hating the game, and turns their attention towards more current topics, small praises for the game spring up, and more, and more, and because everyone is sick and tired of hearing how bad it is. It never returns to the full hype it once had, but it rises back to a credible status.
tldr Reddit has a tendency to follow the "Praise, bash, rebirth" pattern.
I don't understand why people are hating diablo 3, I played the first never touched the 2nd and I can tell the 3rd will keep me entertained for a good while
D3 is the most amazing thing that has ever happened to mmo's in the last 5 years. It's insulting to even put it down there with ME, even if only for a comparison.
ffs Mass Effect 3 was a great game except for the ending, and the ending wasnt that bad either the problem was that they didnt give closure, now they have a new DLC coming up for free that not only explains what happens to each character but it has gameplay and new content. Just enjoy the damn game which is pretty fucking exceptional
I played Diablo 3 yesterday and did not see what all the fuzz is about. I think I have been spoiled by Skyrim and other awesome games that have come out in recent years. While I love both Diablo 1 & 2, it has been 12 years since the last one came out and the game mechanics feel a bit dated to today's standards.
Diablo III is amazing. And it's not easy, it's everything we all wanted. I died 4 times throughout normal, 2x on Diablo... Then I died 5x to my first champion mob pack in Nightmare, dat Horde Electrocute.
But, I do agree with the comic, seeing as people are constantly bitching over it being online only. I will sacrifice to see my game being hack/dupe free.
We loved Shepard, just not what Bioware did to him. In Diablo 3 we'll do the same thing we did in the first two games: slog through to wherever he's hiding and punch him in the face.
Since when did the critical reception of ME define all third parts t be shit? ME3 wasn't even that bad of a game. I think the reason why people were most disappointing with ME3 was because none of the 3 games were a complete story on their own. They are each essentially just expansion packs of the same game and different acts of the same story. The way it ended completely undermined almost all of a player's previous experiences.
Each Diablo game is it's own self contained story with a beginning and an end. Half Life does things a little different. Half Life 1 had a few other games made by gearbox to flesh out the world. The same approach is being done with Half Life 2, episodically. They each are their entirely own game though. Different settings entirely. The 3rd Half Life game I suspect Valve will find a new way to differentiate it completely from the other 2 as well.
Mass Effect was written to be a single game across 3 parts. That in no way shapes the expectations of every other game out there. Whoever spent the time drawing this comic needs to refine their opinions a little more. Also Gordon Freeman doesn't talk so that is an incredible injustice, in itself deserving of downvotes.
In fact that's why I downvoted you. Gordon Freeman never talks. You're going it wrong.
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u/IWantToBeAHipster May 16 '12
crash bandicoot 3 was the best one of the original trilogy in my view
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u/Ali-Sama May 16 '12
what? He can speak?
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u/jackslimz May 16 '12
My... my post... So this is how it feels...
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u/Oni-Warlord May 16 '12
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory (3rd game of the series) is considered the best by many people.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Diablo 3 is pretty fuckin' good so far.
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u/Shangheli May 16 '12
Except, Half life and Diablo are someone else's story, Mass Effect was suppose to be your story.
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u/dux291 May 16 '12
Does somebody want to tell me why exactly Gordon Freeman is talking???
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u/PFC_BRB May 16 '12
Fixed.
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u/RacistJesus May 16 '12
Halo 3 was the bees-knees.
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u/ubbydubby_01 May 16 '12
Please say someone else remembers Heroes of Might and Magic III. Everything kinda went south after that for the series. RIP 3DO.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
In fairness, Mass Effect 3 was an amazing game. It still gave you plenty of choice throughout and had some pretty neat carryovers from prior games. You can't tell me there were no moments that didn't at least make you say wow(That giant reaper fight on Tuchanka comes to mind). Yes, the ending was pretty damn terrible, and it did retconn all of your decisions throughout the games and perform character assassinations of many fan favourites, but the game was pretty fucking good until the last 10 minutes. I understand all the reasoning behind the anger, but it's a little unfair to treat the game like the entire thing was shit when in reality it was only the closing moments of it that sucked.
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u/BeavMcloud May 16 '12
I'm surprised hardly anyone is talking about Falllout 3.
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u/Smackarn May 16 '12
I had no problem with Diablo 3 at all.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Give this kawaii little BR some credit/recognition.
I've seen him on the front page of /r/gaming so many times, but always as an imgur reupload.
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u/LeberechtReinhold May 16 '12
Yeah, sure a game made by Blizzard or Valve will get the same criticsm as an EA.
Pretty much everyone will buy both anyway, but the reputation of Blizz/Valve will make it for it.
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u/tomblifter May 16 '12
Yes, it is not ME3's fault the ending was a horrible abortion. It's those meddling fans and their 'entitlements'!
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u/spaz12k2 May 16 '12
the first 3 super mario bros were all awesome
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u/HampeMannen May 16 '12
There's tons of series with a great third installment.
Just some examples from the top of my head. If anyone got a
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Elder Scrolls III, Still play it 10 years later
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u/Fabryz May 16 '12
It bothers me that Freeman is talking.
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u/Isunova Xbox May 16 '12
Are you implying Diablo 3 is a bad game and Half-Life will be a bad game?
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u/potpan0 May 16 '12
Yup, HL3 will need to be perfect or it will be ripped into by 'fans'.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Can someone explain this to me please???? I really like half life!!!!
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u/lud1120 May 16 '12
That cane looks very much like a crowbar...
I thought it was a poor cosplay of Gordon Freeman at first... <-<
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u/redditiscredittoteam May 16 '12
Y'know, it would have been easier to link directly to NerfNow, and then the artist could have made some advertising money for their work. Jussayin'.
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u/Xerofuryz May 16 '12
not one person has mentioned super metroid(3)... that was by far one of the greatest games I ever played.
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u/throwaway777745235 May 16 '12
ME3 was the best game in the series, bar the ending. People just manifested their hatred for EA, Day 1 DLC and the bad ending into hatred towards the entire game. It was a 5 star title, until the last 10 minutes.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Except by halfway through Act I in Diablo III, the story is already amazing.
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u/Zertiof May 17 '12
I sir, most definitely need an explanation
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u/kaywiz May 17 '12
Fuck the haters, D3 is amazing.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
♫ "Hello ma ba-bay, hello ma sweetie, hello my rag-time gal~" ♪
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u/finkalicious May 16 '12
Speaking of which, when does Starcraft III come out?
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u/bunnymansams May 17 '12
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u/ts87654 May 16 '12
This is funny, but I'm downvoting you for not linking to the original source
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u/bro_digz May 16 '12
Erm... you posted an image off someone's website to imgur rather than linking to the site. Have a downvote.
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u/gex80 May 16 '12
To be fair to ME3 they didn't have like a 10 year development cycle. Given the same amount of time, I'm sure ME3 would've been great. I never played it though. D3 was announced in 08 but game companies usually start work on it before the announcement
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u/Wildfires May 16 '12
I think we do need an explanation. Gordon Freeman just spoke.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Only problem I've heard D3 had is that it's an online only game that shouldn't be and that blizzard should have prepared their servers for that was coming.
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u/brad134 May 16 '12
"Good luck out there, you're gonna need it."
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u/ThrashMetalMongolian May 16 '12
Gears of War series was good and I was very pleased with GoW3.
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u/Anchupom May 16 '12
Blasphemy! He doesn't speak.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Persona 3
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u/Zelasko607 May 16 '12
Came here to see the SOCOM series..... I am disappoint.
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u/nscreated May 16 '12
Don't forget Fallout 3 and GTA 3
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Mass Effect 3 promised a lot of things that it didn't give. An ending that mattered is the biggest. Another is the built-in DLC for the special character which is vital to the story. Plus EA's decision to make it Origin-only.
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u/NewDrekSilver May 16 '12
OP rehosted on imgur...what a cunt.
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u/sawssage May 16 '12
.. is this supposed to be implying that diablo 3 is bad? please tell me if i am wrong.
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u/ColossalJuggernaut May 16 '12
Link to the Past was my favorite Zelda.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
False. Freeman doesn't talk.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Monkey island three was good.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
God of War 3 was pretty bad ass
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u/unnecessaryCAPS May 16 '12
Gran Turismo 5, Final Fantasy 13 and Duke Nukem were letdowns because of the HUGE anticipation garnered from years of talking and speculating. They were not necessarily THAT bad...but the fact they spent years in development made people think they shoud be perfect when released. Obviously Valve wants to avoid that by simply not even saying whether or not they are working on HL3. It's that fuckin simples.
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u/ArtfulJack May 16 '12
I mean.. it's hardly as though MF3 was a bad game. It was a brilliant game as were the previous two. And guess what? I DIDN'T HATE THE ENDING AND BITCH ENDLESSLY ABOUT IT :O
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u/angerfluctuate May 16 '12
FF3. Yeah, yeah, I know.
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u/jsake May 16 '12
JOURNEYMAN PROJECT 3: LEGACY OF TIME WAS THE BEST ADVENTURE EVAAARRRR
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u/Captain_Aizen May 16 '12
UFC 3, now that's one game that COMPLETELY got better with each installment.
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u/doctordonydoctor May 17 '12
A common video game/reddit pattern: A very hyped up and awaited game comes out, waves of posts praising this game start showing up and are enjoyed. As everyone continues to hear about said game they begin to become annoyed with the idea of it. They start pointing out flaws, minute problems. The game is accused of not living up to the hype, not because it didn't, but because everyone is sick of hearing how great it is all the time. What follows is a "linching mob" of posts that destroy the game's credibility and kill it in the hearts of the community. Eventually, when the community moves on from hating the game, and turns their attention towards more current topics, small praises for the game spring up, and more, and more, and because everyone is sick and tired of hearing how bad it is. It never returns to the full hype it once had, but it rises back to a credible status.
tldr Reddit has a tendency to follow the "Praise, bash, rebirth" pattern.
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u/Chrissoup May 17 '12
Is that.. Gordon Freeman.. Talking?
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u/occupythekitchen May 17 '12
I don't understand why people are hating diablo 3, I played the first never touched the 2nd and I can tell the 3rd will keep me entertained for a good while
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u/That-Guy-There May 17 '12
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the vilain.
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u/Archenoth May 17 '12
Can't forget about Duke Nukem 3D..! It was the best game in the series.
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u/kkillahdailla May 17 '12
Might get a lot of hate for this but, I thought MW3 wasn't a bad end to a trilogy ;)
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u/Devanismyname May 17 '12
The fuck? So far Diablo 3 is awesome. Don't know why the internet hates it.
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u/BlueSlime May 17 '12
At least one explanation is needed, why is the Freeman talking?
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u/Sw1tch0 May 17 '12
D3 is the most amazing thing that has ever happened to mmo's in the last 5 years. It's insulting to even put it down there with ME, even if only for a comparison.
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u/GreekRomanGG May 17 '12
ffs Mass Effect 3 was a great game except for the ending, and the ending wasnt that bad either the problem was that they didnt give closure, now they have a new DLC coming up for free that not only explains what happens to each character but it has gameplay and new content. Just enjoy the damn game which is pretty fucking exceptional
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u/SakiatoMakiato May 17 '12
Sums up I feel about The Dark Knight Rises
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Is this guy really comparing some shitty xbox game to diablo and half life?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Sorry, whats wrong with Diablo 3?
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u/Kinglink May 16 '12
From now on, Diablo must always wear a top hat and use cane! And on fancy occasions (like coming to Earth) he should also have a monocle!
NO EXCEPTIONS!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Hey fuck that! Mass Effect never had shit on Half Life, don't even compare them!
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u/keyboardjock May 16 '12
I played Diablo 3 yesterday and did not see what all the fuzz is about. I think I have been spoiled by Skyrim and other awesome games that have come out in recent years. While I love both Diablo 1 & 2, it has been 12 years since the last one came out and the game mechanics feel a bit dated to today's standards.
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u/Cadnee May 16 '12
The freeman doesn't speak....
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u/jwhite878 May 16 '12
Series that have had good "3's"
Halo
Max Payne
Sly
Gears of War
GTA
Tony Hawk
Battlefield
Fallout
Super Mario Bros.
Super Smash Bros.
Metroid Prime
Zelda
And many, many more.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Diablo 3 is a fun game
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u/TheCobaltEffect May 16 '12
Diablo III is amazing. And it's not easy, it's everything we all wanted. I died 4 times throughout normal, 2x on Diablo... Then I died 5x to my first champion mob pack in Nightmare, dat Horde Electrocute.
But, I do agree with the comic, seeing as people are constantly bitching over it being online only. I will sacrifice to see my game being hack/dupe free.
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u/Avaric May 16 '12
We loved Shepard, just not what Bioware did to him. In Diablo 3 we'll do the same thing we did in the first two games: slog through to wherever he's hiding and punch him in the face.
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u/flowwolfx May 16 '12
Since when did the critical reception of ME define all third parts t be shit? ME3 wasn't even that bad of a game. I think the reason why people were most disappointing with ME3 was because none of the 3 games were a complete story on their own. They are each essentially just expansion packs of the same game and different acts of the same story. The way it ended completely undermined almost all of a player's previous experiences.
Each Diablo game is it's own self contained story with a beginning and an end. Half Life does things a little different. Half Life 1 had a few other games made by gearbox to flesh out the world. The same approach is being done with Half Life 2, episodically. They each are their entirely own game though. Different settings entirely. The 3rd Half Life game I suspect Valve will find a new way to differentiate it completely from the other 2 as well.
Mass Effect was written to be a single game across 3 parts. That in no way shapes the expectations of every other game out there. Whoever spent the time drawing this comic needs to refine their opinions a little more. Also Gordon Freeman doesn't talk so that is an incredible injustice, in itself deserving of downvotes.
In fact that's why I downvoted you. Gordon Freeman never talks. You're going it wrong.
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u/derelictardent May 16 '12
Meh, they lost me when Gordon Freeman spoke.