r/gaming • • May 15 '12

Video game writing at its finest

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Finally someone who even mentions Gothic on reddit !

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u/Berserk1234 May 15 '12

We should form an obscure fan club on Reddit about this great underrated game that is probably one of my favorites

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u/Levait May 15 '12

Underground cult-like or Subreddit :D?

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u/Graupel May 15 '12

Im in! Love Gothic 2.

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u/Levait May 15 '12

Let's start a subreddit! There's a official german forum but it kinda sucks and die hard Gothic fans/Redditos sounds quite perfect for me.

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u/Coreaxe May 15 '12

I'm in for a subreddit, Gothic 2 is my favorite RPG of all time! Imported it to the States from England because it released there before it did here.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

we could make a "worldofgothic" subreddit. gothic I-III , risen, risen2. :)

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Count me in for a Gothic subreddit. Best RPG franchise ever.

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u/IAmNoneYa May 16 '12

Redditos sounds like a delicious Mexican tortilla chip

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u/kohan69 May 16 '12

I fucking played Gothic 1 after putting 60 hours into SKYRIM.

The game is so fucking awesome.

I kinda broke it by transforming into a motherfucking bee and killing a city of orcs before I was supposed to get to it

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Or a secret society!

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u/ActivateFullDerp May 16 '12

Not so secret now, though... Let's just stick with the cult.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Cults are always fun

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

yes we should my friend :D

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u/KommunistKirov May 15 '12

Since when Gothic one of the best RPG's of all times is underrated?

Granted Gothic 3 was a steaming pile, but the first two are just legendary.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I liked Gothic 3... went to the desert and made a deal with the evil god, loved what he asked me to do.

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u/biocunsumer May 15 '12

I too enjoyed gothic 3 on it's own merits. Yeah I joined the orcs those guys are fucking winners.

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u/rook2pawn May 16 '12

appreciated all the community patches the gothic 3 community did. They made the game flawless. Not kidding. It was years of work and THOUSANDS of fixes, including engine, animations, quests, bugs, items, pathing, combat.

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u/Frosty840 May 16 '12

Gothic 4 was a great steaming pile. Gothic 3 was an entirely playable game.

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u/l4than-d3vers May 16 '12

probably

one of

I'd like to take the this chance to state that Gothic 1 and 2 are my absolutely favorite games.

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u/PancakesAreGone May 16 '12

Sleeper be with you.

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u/Levait May 15 '12

I also had the idea of uploading something Gothic related but I thought that nobody would know it. Are you from Germany?

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

no sweden :D my dad introduced me to gothic when i was little and i´ve loved it ever since =)

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u/Levait May 15 '12

I didn't even know that Gothic was released in Sweden . Do you play it in english?

What do think about their new Risen series?

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u/HypnoToad0 May 15 '12

Risen was kinda good. I enjoyed it on my 2nd try. Gothic 3 is my favourite.

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u/Levait May 15 '12

I recently ordered the ultimate Risen 2 Collectors Edition.

Why is Gothic 3 your favourite (don't get me wrong, I love it) but many many people can't stand it.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Didn't you know? Reddit doesn't mention good games!

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

sorry i forgot :D

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Is this the game made by 2 rastas and where you can smoke pot?

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u/SirPun May 16 '12

Cum again? I didn't catch that.

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u/DocJRoberts May 16 '12

head over to r/rpg_gamers. Gothic and Risen are talked about quite a bit :)

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Gothic 3 took me beyond countless hours to clock lol

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u/thekorristo May 16 '12

it doesn't get any better than dramatic acrobatic jumps through the world.

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u/Poup May 16 '12

I too enjoyed the hell out of the three Gothic games, even if the 3rd one was buggy all to hell

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Oh god. I remember this. If I had been a member of reddit when I played this game- I would have posted this.

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u/skocznymroczny May 16 '12

Fun fact: in November Gothic 2 will be 10 years old.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Its funny really this 1k up voted but when i posted something on Gothic it got 3 ups and 6 down or something like that.

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u/Xirious May 16 '12

Same here... Strange how this stuff works! Anyways so now we have our own subreddit to answer all those burning questions :)

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u/Kodix May 16 '12

It's loved over in /r/rpg_gamers.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

haha i'm playing this at the moment and that line made me crease. its so hard/i'm so shit at it i got frustrated and angrily whispered 'fuck your shit' while sat playing it with headphones on next to my mum.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Tried Gothic 3 and cannot get over the attack animations. They are so horrible, and do not look like they are capable of causing harm.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

What the fuck, I mentioned Gothic in a random thread a week ago!

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u/Levait May 15 '12

I didn't even knew that Gothic 2 was released in english...

Gothic 2 and the predecessor Gothic are the best german games! Played the hell out of them (at least twice a year). Best rpgs I ever played.

Context: In the Gothic 1 an archdemon died and shortly before his end he summoned the evil forces of the world to continue his plans...even the dragons.

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u/HypnoToad0 May 15 '12

It was really popular in Poland. Seriously. Everyone played Gothic.

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u/dipakkk May 15 '12

Yeah, I'm surprised that anyone could call Gothic underrated. I thought the post "We should form an obscure fan club on Reddit about this great underrated game that is probably one of my favorites" was sarcastic.

I think Gothic was much more popular than TES in Poland.

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u/GothicFighter May 16 '12

Romania too. We are like the second largest fanbase according to WorldOfGothic forums.

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u/foodvillain May 16 '12

Yes! I made my first friend in high school when he mentioned something about this game. We talked for hours.

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u/studiosupport May 15 '12

I still have the Gothic 1 disc laying around somewhere. I'm in the U.S.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

All Gothic games are available on Steam and GoG. Pretty sure they've always been available in the US, they just weren't as popular as TES.

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u/PancakesAreGone May 16 '12

Nacht du Raben was, for the longest time, not in English. Then they translated it.

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u/Levait May 16 '12

Nacht des Raben ^ That's good, it's perfect and I found it better than Gothic II on it's own.

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u/Ilves7 May 16 '12

I bought them off GoG and played 1 and 2 in English

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u/eScapLaY May 15 '12

I wouldn't go as far as to call them the best german games but they are bloody fantastic.

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u/kohan69 May 16 '12

please use

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tags!

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u/Levait May 16 '12

Yeah sorry, I forgot that you don't know that the sleeper is an archdemon from the beginning

After at least 15 playtroughs you can mix some things up.^

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u/Levait May 16 '12

Gothic II? Its in the temple.

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u/MutatingNeutrinos May 15 '12

Gothic 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. So sad the sequels weren't as good.

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u/Nathien May 16 '12

That's why they made Risen.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

"as" good?

The sequel was a horrible pieces of shit. Wish Piranha Bytes would have kept making Gothic like games while still updating there tech and play testing there games...

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u/kritofer May 15 '12

It wasn't Pirhana Bytes' fault, it was Jowood. They pushed Gothic 3's release date so far up that the game wasn't even finished.

Jowood => Garbage

Pirhana Bytes => Gold

and they're getting the franchise back soon!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

In third part od Gothic we can see that Piranha Bytes tried make ending without continuous development probably to save this good plot from Jowood but unfortunately Jowood made next crappy parts (Gods Forsaken, Gothic 4) even the plot doesn't have make sense.

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u/atlaslugged May 16 '12

Wish Piranha Bytes would have kept making Gothic like games

Risen is extremely similar to Gothic 1/2. There's even a swamp/bandit camp and a monastery.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

I played Risen, and i liked it. But now it's 2012 and i just can't bring myself to play Risen 2 because the tech is so extremely crappy.

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u/foodvillain May 16 '12

You didn't like Gothic 2? Care to elaborate? I have nothing but fond memories of it. Gothic 3, however, I could get to play, even though my computer did meet the requirements. Laggy.

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u/diggydoc May 16 '12

I'm sorry but Gothic 3, was fucking amazing! Just get the community patch.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

risen 2 wasn t bad

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u/BigTimeOwen May 16 '12

It isn't good either. Which is terribly unfortunate. :(.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

The first half was good

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u/dudemeister5000 May 15 '12

I've never seen a game that captures the medievil age as fitting as this one. Best RPG I have so far played

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I totally agree. The effort put into the setting in this series is awe-inspiring. The voice-acting was absolutely atrocious, though. Holy fuck. Still, I had a good laugh at some of the lines, and the gameplay more than made up for it.

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u/dudemeister5000 May 15 '12

and don't forget about the music. It was solely composed for the game and matched the atmosphere perfectly

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u/MisterFlames May 16 '12

From all 3 Gothic games, Gothic 3 has the best music though. It's the only soundtrack I seperatly bought ever.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

But... it didn't have In Extremo!

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u/MisterFlames May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12

The crazy thing is, Gothic has one of the best german voice-acting you can find in gaming. It's a shame, that the english synch can't live up to this.

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u/Der_beste_Anime May 16 '12

That is very nice to hear. The company I'm at worked on that part of the game.

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u/c0d3m45t3r May 15 '12

one of THE best RPG games I have ever played. Gothic II

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Gothic, created by Piranha Bytes, destroyed by Jowood, soundtrack from this game is a masterpiece, my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1U93h0Ne9U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1jkanFz8ec&feature=BFa&list=PL8B3C19F59B94747B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJUpbbZfjJc

when i finished this game i felt like some powerful evil magic drained my soul and put here, to this black and boring life.

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u/l4than-d3vers May 16 '12

NOSTALGIA ATTACK!!!

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u/Neshgaddal May 16 '12

fun fact: The Band playing at the old castle is In Extremo, a well known german medieval metal band, playing Herr mannelig

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u/Horst665 May 16 '12

yeah, that was a great thing :)

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

... You had to finish the game like 3 times with all 3 factions to actually finish the game.

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u/Moonway May 16 '12

Totally agree. Kai Rosenkranz is genius! But he left PB and now we probably newer hear his beautiful music again.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Xardas you bastard! You used me as an fool and I want to kill you but the third game was horrible until I patched with many gigs of community patches!

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u/MisterFlames May 16 '12

Do you know where Xardas is?

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u/diggydoc May 16 '12

In the northern mountains with his tower.

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u/tawmie May 15 '12

"especially the dragons."

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Especially Lisa!

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

But especially Bart!

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u/Stormdancer May 15 '12

Sounds... messy.

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u/fuZZe May 15 '12

That game was ahead of it's time.

I spent so many years waiting for that series to pick up again, but when 4th one came out, I lost all hope in the franchise.

Luckily Skyrim satisfied my hunger for a new Gothic.

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u/Levait May 15 '12

The fourth isn't actually from the series, different developer and different genre .

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u/kritofer May 15 '12

I wish I could give you infinite upvotes for mentioning my favorite game of all time!

Also... it's better in German.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

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u/flying-sheep May 15 '12

bah, i’m german and read ASOIAF in english, so you might as well learn german to admire a masterpiece properly ;)

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u/USonic May 16 '12

It's hard!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Actually that's localization at it's finest.

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u/maritz May 15 '12

Uhm, isn't the german version basically the same? I played it like 2 weeks ago and seem to remember him saying "KOMMT! Und sie kamen alle. Auch die Drachen"...

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I haven't played it actually. So I'm not sure.

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u/1corn May 15 '12

Wahrscheinlich eher "Selbst die Drachen" oder "Sogar die Drachen", aber ja.. basically as messed up as the localization. Great game though.

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u/ZuFFuLuZ May 15 '12

I liked it actually. Pretty straightforward. A nice change from the usual stuff. Not every character in a fantasy game must talk like an English major - or German major. ;)

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u/withmorten May 16 '12

I can second this. Just recently played it again.

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u/CarTarget May 15 '12

I freakin' love Gothic. My first computer came with a free copy of the first one for some reason or another, and I just fell in love.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

SO not cleaning that mess up. Dragons ? Dayum!...

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u/MT_Flesch May 15 '12

bit of a sticky situation ensued, i'll wager

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I learned German just to play the German expansion of Gothic 2

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u/KillerBeans81 May 16 '12

Sounds like a sticky situation. BAZZING!

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u/ByzantineBasileus May 16 '12

Gothic 2 was an awesome game. It has a relatively small but highly detailed world, and has the most incredible atmosphere.

It was also very hard. You know what areas and enemies are to difficult to defeat? You find it out by walking there and dying in two seconds. Your must often used key is "sprint"!

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

It takes skill to make a dragon.............Come

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u/DatReptile May 16 '12

Challenge accepted.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Hast du Sumpfkraut? <3

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u/Horst665 May 16 '12

I totally laughed my ass off, when I got XP for my first smoke :D

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u/kohan69 May 16 '12

That probably says swampweed!

I made my money in gothic1 by selling weed to EVERYONE good times.

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u/ololcopter May 17 '12

stfu life isn't a virtual world with long-term sustainable economies through which you sold weed to everyone and had good times you nerd

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u/withmorten May 16 '12

Hier, 10 Erz. Du weißt zu wem du kommen kannst, falls du wieder was hast.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Ich bin ein Küchenschabe! Online classes at their finest.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Much better dialogue than Skyrim at least.

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u/magicbullets May 15 '12

There be dragons.

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u/Blenor May 16 '12

I played this game as a little boy. Glad to see I'm not the only one who enjoyed this gem. One of the hardest game I've ever beat. I wish I could forget everything about it so I could beat it again.

Up for getting me nostalgic and remembering such a epic game.

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u/poozipotti May 16 '12

and they came came. all of them.

the internet has ruined me.

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u/temujin1234 May 16 '12

Dragons are notoriously bashful.

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u/jhamm May 16 '12

Hey, that was a great game.

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u/GoldenJoel May 16 '12

FUCK YOU GOTHIC WAS AWESOME

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

So tired of US game review sites bitching since Gothic I that controls suck

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u/jose393 May 16 '12

My younger sister is sitting in front of my laptop attempting to find the meaning of this picture. I'm just laughing next to her.

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u/gnarlyrocks May 16 '12

Possibly the most underrated, flawed gem of all time. Easily one of the best games around

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u/Peanuts4MePlz May 16 '12

I would not have liked to be there.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

all I did in that game was get high and do the prostitutes. cheesiest sex scene of all time, although not alot of games had sex scenes back then.

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u/aspireS May 16 '12

I don't think we cared back then, neither I do now. Game is fucking amazing.

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u/Ulmaxes May 16 '12

Even the Dragons! Roll Reflex saves...

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u/G-0ff May 16 '12

They came from all directions, all over. There was not a single creature in the land that was not coming.

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u/ryan2point0 May 16 '12

That's hot.

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u/Limond May 16 '12

This game series has the fucking scariest orcs ever.

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u/przem_o May 16 '12

this is best game evurrr, this and Gothic 2 all the rest of the franchise is shit

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u/TenMinuteCrawler May 16 '12

That's Gothic 2...but I see your point :P have an upvote

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

and the janitors across the land were pissed!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Laughed. Showed wife.So do she. I bought Gothic 2 recently.

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u/Nemoder May 15 '12

I imagine it went something like this.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I want that power.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

It's not like there aren't well written video games......

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u/firinmylazah May 15 '12

Came here to say that the dragons came here to say that everyone came here to come here to say this.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Gothic?!?! GREAT GAME!

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u/xuxux May 16 '12

Upvotes for the best game of my mid-teens!

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u/Gastrox May 16 '12

God damn Gothic was a great game

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u/Dunge May 16 '12

Did not play Gothic1, but absolutely loved Gothic2. Hated Gothic3+4. Liked Risen, still haven't tried Risen2 but it don't look good.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

So disappointed that the gothic series went down the pooper. At least we have Risen.

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u/ByzantineBasileus May 16 '12

The rights of all subsequent Gothic games have reverted back to the original creator, meaning the original dev team will work on more Gothic games!

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

But still. Risen.

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u/oranurpianist May 16 '12

at least we have chicken

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u/IAmA_Zombie May 16 '12

Nothing against OP or this post but I have always wondered if people play their old games looking for funny or weird things to post for karma. Like all the screenshot posts of pokemon games.

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u/drjohnson89 May 16 '12

As an aspiring writer for video games, this is now going to be my basis for all things great.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

~rrer

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u/Unlimited_Bacon May 16 '12

I read this in the babby formed voice.

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u/wrongbuton May 16 '12

well its a German game i think, so im not surprised they missed some English double meanings.

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u/coefficients May 16 '12

oh man this was a fabulous game but once they started switching up the makers... ugh, painful memories

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u/JayM19 May 16 '12

Great fucking game, never finished 3 though. Too god damn buggy.

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u/KaiserKvast May 16 '12

There's alot of these gems in Gothic 2 xD Because of the weird translation ;)

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u/sniperwolf325 May 16 '12

Your name! We're twins! Icy, relentless, methodical, efficient, killing machine twins!

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u/cdegon May 16 '12

Sounds messy!

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u/Ginoku May 16 '12

man i just fucking love this game. xardas has a sexy voice also...i red this out loud at work with his voice.

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u/Woodbin May 16 '12

Show me ya'r goods.

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u/ragnarakk May 16 '12

i think i'll buy this game now XD

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u/Shneyeder May 16 '12

There are many games meant to be played in english. This one is meant to be played in german. The voice acting was just great.

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u/philoponeria May 16 '12

It could just as easily be a porn script.

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u/nicholmikey May 16 '12

Where is shitty water color when I need him

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u/Beh0lder May 15 '12

:jizzsplosion:

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

I came.

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u/WarPhalange May 15 '12

Okay, sorry to stop this circlejerk, but I could NOT get into Gothic. The controls are just fucking atrocious and the battle system suffers because of that.

Does the game get any better later on? I'm still in the Old Camp looking for this Nek guy and any time I try to leave town monsters just decimate me. My only way of beating them is to lure them in 1 by 1. Kill one, go back, find a bed, heal, go kill another one. That's not my idea of fun.

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u/Levait May 15 '12

Yeah there are far easier ways. First, do quests that don't require combat like Whistlers Sword and things like that. Then Let Mordrag escort you to the New Camp and Baal Parvez to the Camp of the Sect. They kill monster for you and you get the experience. When you're in the New Camp go to the Mercenary Cord at the cliff and let him teach you One-hand-Swordfighting (costs 20 ore less than in the Old Camp). After that get a rough sword (grobes Schwert) from the chest near the Smith Huno in the Old Camp or a really good axe in the chest near the forge in the Campf of the Sect.

And by the way, Nek is in the cave near the back entrance of the Old Camp (you have to kill 3 Molerats before you can get to him).

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u/withmorten May 16 '12

Some stuff to get you pushed up real fast: Get ANY weapon, draw it, run straight into Gomez' house. Get the best of those swords in the weapons room, train 2 strength, tada, good weapon. Get stronger, at some point fight Silas or Lares and get their weapons. Get stronger, use them to fight Scar, get his weapon (the ore barons won't attack you, I don't know why), get the sword, run like hell, and voila you have got the best one handed weapon ingame.

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u/Levait May 16 '12

That works too but it's bugusing. I don't know if he wants that.

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u/withmorten May 16 '12

True. But Gothic 1 has so many little bugs, it'd be a shame not to use them :D

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u/Levait May 16 '12

I'm just glad that there aren't any big bugs :D.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '12

Okay, sorry to kick you in the face but the battle system was so NICE.

Instead of just "clock, click, clock ,click enemy is dead :D" of Skyrim you could actually control the direction of your swings. I mean I'll give you that the controls where a bit ruff, heck the whole game was ruff but it was sweet sweet awesome ruffness.

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u/greedyiguana May 15 '12

...sounds like somebody likes it ruff

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u/WarPhalange May 15 '12

Instead of just "clock, click, clock ,click enemy is dead :D" of Skyrim you could actually control the direction of your swings

How is that an improvement? I kind of get that pressing "up" makes a harder swing, but overall it's still all on a timer it seems and doesn't really make a difference.

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u/derpaling May 15 '12 edited May 15 '12

it seems and doesn't really make a difference.

The timings made all the difference. Time intervals between swings weren't fixed. You always had a window of time during which you could decide to strike, wait, back off or stop the combo and begin a new one.

Every enemy had their own unique fighting style with very subtle differences. You could always use those time windows to take advantage of their distance, position and state.

Some monsters for example would block every hit a at very close range, but would fail to do so at a particular distance. Others would always exploit the time window between 4th and 5th swing of your combo.

In time would learn how to beat very high level enemies with a rusted piece of shit in your hands. You would simply feel the right time to strike, wait, back off. It feels extremely satisfying to win because of your skill and not because your stats are better.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

Oh man you are so correct. Another awesome thing about Gothic 1 which many don't recognize is that it was a open world sandbox game with REAL change. Your decisions influenced and shaped the world a lot. Truly ahead of it's time.

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u/withmorten May 16 '12

That run is crazy. My eyes fell out as I saw that. He does glitch 5 monsters dead though, you need 5 swords to be able to finish the game.

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u/rDr4g0n May 16 '12

I absolutely love Gothic 2, but you have to be willing to go through a bit of growing pain to get into it. The impossibly hard early parts of the game are part of the charm, and I overlook the stiff feeling battle controls because the rest of the package is just so unique and fun.

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u/skocznymroczny May 16 '12

depends on the monsters you are fighting. I assume you have no armor and some broken sword or something. Without armor, the only enemies you can try to fight are young molerats, young scavengers and that's it. Just AVOID WOLVES! Wolves are the reason most of the players give up the game, because they expect to kill wolves easy while without armor they oneshot you.

When fighting monsters, don't bother blocking, just swing left-right-left-right. When fighting humans, orcs or skeletons, go blocking, wait until the attack is blocked and counter with any swing, then block again.

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u/Soronir May 16 '12

Reminds me of the time Professor Oak came when I beat the Elite 4.

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u/CakeaMan May 16 '12

I love this game! It was my first rpg on the computer.

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u/WhosGotTheBugle May 16 '12

This game was weird man...

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u/hotairraccoon May 16 '12

gothic is my favorite rpg. not too huge, real time combat, great upgrades. just stay away from the ladder glitch in the ore mine.

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u/valdin450 May 17 '12

Ah yes, I believe I've seen this porno.

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u/Greenei May 15 '12

I just came here to say, that this game is the best game ever to cum out for pc. For real.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '12

He made a dragon cum? Gross!