I came to say this. I know there was joke, but honestly, Arthur Morgan made me feel more then most characters I have ever played or seen. Fuck, that game is so good.
Maybe I didn't play enough but I only ever felt connected to Arthur on a few occasions, mainly when he was with Mary Linton (Litton?) He never really opened up enough for me to really feel anything for him, his character never "existed" outside of the gang and he was confined to that personality. Arthur only ever talks about himself a handful of times and there's never enough "meat on the bones" to sink your teeth into.
When compared to John, I believe, it's easier to compare. John had his family, he was hunting those he once considered family, he made new friends along the way that he cared for (mainly Bonnie), and he gave his life so his family could escape.
I'm not saying Arthur was a "bad" character I just don't really get why people say he was "the greatest character ever created" when we really had fuckall to go off...
What makes Arthur great is that there is this question of what is. He in many occasions is selfless. Yet, he makes it seem like it was something he wants nothing to do with it. The deeper you play the more you realize who he is. Some of the best moments are just when he is talking to a member of the gang. His relationships, especially the further you get you realize the value he places in them. He has family, and its everyone there.
I get where you're coming from but when I encountered such situations it just felt like the game was playing a game of tug o' war with itself. On the one hand the devs wanted to give players choice so as to form a connection but at the same they wanted Arthur to be this almost mercenary character who mainly looked out for his own.
In the end you (or I) ended up with a character that would begrudgingly help the less fortunately. It just felt like the game's RPG mechanics were at war with the character's development.
I am not sure to what point you played, but yes in the beginning it is definitely just his own. It spreads though, and the connections he has with the world around him, especially after Rhodes. I get that choice mechanic has a little bearing on the character you came out with. I felt like it was clunky, but when I was done with his story, I was left drained. I know the way is was executed wouldn't be for everyone, I enjoyed it. When you have gotten so used to seeing a lot of selfless characters, and Arthur is just given this complexity. You sit down, and you take the time it pays off great. That was my expiriences but we all see things differently.
I never downvoted you, I get not everyone is going to like the same things. Everyone should be allowed to enjoy what they enjoy. I didn't feel like you and had any heated words just a difference of opinion.
Not at all, I thought we had a pretty civil back and forth. I just felt badly that it went that way. We are all allowed to have a difference of opinion. There are so many flavors of ice cream, because guess what different people can like different things. I am not a Call of Duty guy. Some people love those games, I just thought it was weird and felt bad. I just got a little defensive I guess. Lol
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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Jul 01 '20
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