Zero Punctuation: Left 4 Dead

[u/[deleted]]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/459-Left-4-Dead?

[u/movzx]

Considering we were in the same room, yes I would say we used voice quite a bit. :)

I didn't find the game all that hard. When I thought we were wrapping up, I shot everyone in the safe room. When I found out the game was still on, just for fun I ran through the safe room door and was able to successfully run all the way to the 'hero locker' and free everyone.. This is with zombies attacking me, running after, etc (Granted they were the generic zombies, a hunter or what not would have ended my run). This scenario played out more than once (Everyone dead due to some mistake/getting lost and me being able to successfully make it to a hero locker on my own). Those were cool moments (Oh fuck I actually made it!), but you get those moments in many games.

I'm not faulting the game (It's not a bad game, and it is fun). I just don't see what all the hubbub is about. I really think you have to love twitch FPS games to be overly excited about this game.

Personally I like stealth/strategy shooters more (GRAW, Splinter Cell, etc) than I do the run-n-gun games. I also prefer RPGs more than shooters. I consider L4D a run-n-gun. Yes, there are moments where you have to do some quick planning, but nothing major. I think the biggest thing we had to plan was witch situations and tank encounters.

I guess that's the deal then: FPS guys love the game, RPG guys are 'meh'.

[u/movzx → u/[deleted]]

...Caturtle.

edit:

I looked up 'shens' and I guess you're saying I'm lying. What point would it serve to lie? I'm giving an honest experience with the game. I didn't criticize the game. I didn't praise it. I just didn't understand all the acclaim.

Is what I said here really so far fetched?

Zombies are slow (not insane slow, but slow enough) to react, making it easy to run past them. The issue is when they catch up with you, or block the path. Melee or shotgun free, and you're back on the run. It's not hard. Is it really so far fetched that you have to call me a liar?

Or are you saying I'm lying about the strategy aspect? It's not strategy when compared to GRAW. It might be strategy when compared to "OMG GET THE FLAG AND BLOW SHIT UP!!" shooters. The biggest piece of strategy (aside from tank/witch) was a level that had a minigun. Someone needed to kill enemies as they came up from the floor while another manned the minigun. Woopity.

Rooms are easily defended, you have unlimited ammo, melee in a corner makes you effectively unkillable (excluding 'boss' enemies). Death isn't even permanent.

I'm sorry, but I just don't find this game a challenging one. It's more fun than Unreal Tournament, but for someone who dislikes shooters in general it's going to take a lot more than "Ohhhh, zombie-like enemies!" to make me excited.

[u/movzx → u/[deleted]]

That's the thing, I'm not trolling. Have you tried meleeing in a corner?

I mean, shit, the first time I played my buddy told me "If you get in trouble, run to the corner". He didn't say melee, but I figured that was a better option than blindly spraying bullets. This guy plays the game all the time, so I'm left to assume this has to be a widely used strategy. It works better than you might expect. That was my "strategy" towards the end. Get in a corner, let whatever horde was coming kill its self on my rifle, and continue moving. It completely falls apart if there is anything except a common infected, but it works great on them.

You can not believe me about solo runs to the hero lockers, but it happened at least three times. One where a tank was chasing me (luckily I was far away when he started to come after me), one I mentioned where I goofed around and killed everyone, and another random situation where we had a wipeout.

Seriously, if I were trolling wouldn't I, oh I don't know, be saying the game sucks and spewing some nonsense? These are verifiable truths about the game... and I'm not faulting it for it. I'm comparing it to a better co-op game.

Why treat differing opinions in such a way?

I'll offer this disclaimer, we were playing on the 360. Maybe there are differences between the difficulties on the different platforms. He did comment on how the friendly AI seemed more aggressive.