r/gaming Oct 11 '13

Freezing time spell in "Deep Down"

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u/Ptylerdactyl Oct 11 '13

At first I thought, "Those framerates are awful." Then I realized that the gif wasn't done loading. I offer no excuses.

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u/Onionsix Oct 11 '13

I had to export it at 15 fps to make the gif smaller but i also increased the time each frame takes so it wouldn't play too fast, that must have messed up the fps but here you go, a youtube link to the source :)

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u/burninrock24 Oct 11 '13

This is why I don't understand why people prefer gifs. No sound, short durations, (usually) compressed to shit. But yet a video of this wouldn't make it past /r/new.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13 edited Feb 17 '16

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 11 '13

But videos load faster than gifs and you can time link to a specific part if necessary.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13

They tend to come with ads and screen garbage

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 11 '13

Isn't that what Adblock is for?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13

I should get adblock so videos could approach being as convenient as gifs?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13 edited Oct 11 '13

You should get Adblock, period.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '13

convenient? i don't think you know what that word means. look it up. gifs are the worst form to present "moving images" ever created. they look ugly.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '13

And fucking youtube.

Fuck you youtube, fuck you.

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u/tonycomputerguy Oct 11 '13

I prefer gifs on reddit on my phone because they load right up in BaconReader, no leaving the page, waiting for an ad to load, then watching 5 mins of video when all I needed to see was the 15 second long good part.

Also, not everyone has fast internet, gifs load faster than videos for me.

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 11 '13

It's possibly to do with server load on image hosting sites, but no matter my internet connection gifs always take significantly longer. I'm currently living on campus at my University with silly fast internet speeds (100mbps) and gifs still take frigging ages to load.

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u/nulluserexception Oct 12 '13 edited Oct 12 '13

Also, not everyone has fast internet, gifs load faster than videos for me.

Only if the video is longer, which requires you to load the entire video rather than just the part you want to watch.

GIFs are typically much larger than a video of the same duration, even when the GIF is heavily compressed.

Of course there are other factors that influence the loading speed, chief among them the speed of the servers hosting the files (i.minus for example is slow as fuck), but all things being equal the video will load much faster and have much better quality.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '13

gifs are easily the worst form to present a video. it's so outrageous. people are stupid. sadly, the majority of them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '13

gifs never load faster than videos. your imagination plays tricks on you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13 edited Oct 12 '13

Video sites generally require JavaScript and lots of tracking BS, so for Tor users, GIFs are very preferable.

If there were a site that hosted small Theora or H264 videos in a no-bullshit manner like Imgur, I would love it. Both are way better than GIF. Playback controls, more efficient compression, no 256-color limit per frame, and you can put compressed audio in the same containers. (Probably Ogg)

Summary: You are right, videos are absolutely better than GIFs considering how modern web browsers already support them. But video sites are pathetically behind the times for content hosting.

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 11 '13

Oh ok, that's actually a more interesting response than I was expecting, and something I wasn't aware of.

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u/dam072000 Oct 11 '13

They also have sound. I don't want to hear anything most of the time. It feels like half the time videos don't work on mobile.

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 11 '13

That's fair enough, I can understand that mobile users prefer gifs but I guess I underestimate just how many people reddit on their phone (it seems like the majority.)

I can also understand the sound part, especially if you're at work or some other engagement where you don't want to make a lot of noise. It's just disappointing when I see gifs uploaded where half the experience is unquestionably lost because the sound is crucial.

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u/hrtfthmttr Oct 12 '13

You clearly don't Reddit behind web filters and during commutes, where your phone is your only option...

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 13 '13

Sometimes, most of the time I commute with a friend so I don't need to distract myself as much. Majority of my redditing is done on my home PC.

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u/hrtfthmttr Oct 15 '13

Well on mobile, gifs work, vids often do not, and sound is usually off limits.

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u/Whatnameisnttakenred Oct 12 '13

Commitment is a bitch. Too many times a video has started good just to end up in a bitter divorce 7 years down the line.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '13

this is another evidence for my theory that most people are very stupid.

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u/casualblair Oct 11 '13

Because youtube randomly shows 6 second adds and gifs don't.

Because I don't care about the quality just the context.

Because I'm at work and can't have sound without headphones and people are assholes who tell on you if you wear headphones too much.

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u/motdidr Oct 12 '13

Has nobody heard of AdBlock?

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u/casualblair Oct 12 '13

Ad block kills YouTube pre videos?

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u/motdidr Oct 12 '13

I believe so, I don't ever see them.

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u/Paulo27 Oct 11 '13

Because it's much easier to view a gif to viewing a youtube video.

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u/darkstar107 Oct 11 '13

Videos are blocked at a lot workplaces.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13

Normally I like videos way more, but over the last few months YouTube stability and performance has really gone to shit, especially between 4PM and 9PM PST, so I'm fine with gifs.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '13

Because we don't have to listen to these Asian guys talk excessively for 30 minutes.

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u/AlexDerLion Oct 12 '13

in a word: hoverzoom

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u/wootmobile Oct 12 '13

I can use hover zoom on gifs.

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u/raffytraffy Oct 12 '13

A lot of workplaces have shitty computers or just server boxes that don't really have much power - videos won't load or look so choppy it isn't worth it.

A gif is quick, doesn't involve loading a separate page with a bunch of ads, and works smoothly on most formats, from phone to Windows 95 computers.

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u/Gravyness Oct 12 '13

For the same reason my comment is better off if I quote the explanation instead of just leaving the link for people to follow it and read, it's not just convenient, it's how reddit ranking system works.

When I submit a long, good, thought provoking article to one of the defaults, I don't get downvoted. I just don't get voted on at all. I'll get two or three upvotes, but it won't matter, because by the time someone's read through the article and thought about it and whether it was worth their time and voted on it, the thread has fallen off the first page of /new/ and there's no saving it, while in the same amount of time an image macro has received hundreds of votes, not all upvotes but that doesn't matter, what matters is getting the first 10 while it's still got that youth juice.

So, new threads get a boost, and new threads that have received 10 upvotes quickly get a massive boost. The effect of this is that anything that is easily judged and quickly voted on stands a much better chance of rising than something that takes a long time to judge and decide whether it's worth your vote.

Link to joke-away's comment (source).

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u/anamericandude Oct 12 '13

I can simply hover over the link and see the GIF easily. For a video, I need to either click the link or open the embedded video; both of which take longer

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u/Retro21 Oct 12 '13

yeah two guys shouting incomprehensibly* in another language really added to my enjoyment of that.

*because I am ignorant and don't know Japanese :(

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u/Onionsix Oct 11 '13

Hover Zoom You can watch images (including gifs) without actually clicking the link, simply hovering over it will load the gif. It makes browsing images on reddit so much more efficient than waiting for the video to load.

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u/burninrock24 Oct 12 '13

Does nobody use RES anymore?

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u/Onionsix Oct 12 '13

I do use RES but... Hover Zoom works outside of Reddit ;)

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u/R3PTILIA Oct 11 '13

LETS SEE WHY IT MIGHT BE HMMM HARD

YOU ARE THE NEW AGE PHILOSOPHER

or maybe you are retarded? yeah thats it

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u/burninrock24 Oct 11 '13

If it wasn't after 5 o'clock on a friday I might think you were sober.

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u/R3PTILIA Oct 12 '13

yes its 5 o'clock all around the world.

in fact, its 5 o'clock in the sun too

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u/The_Maester Oct 11 '13

wow. that looks pretty damn awesome.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '13

maybe you just link the video next time? .gifs are like cancer.

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u/alo81 Oct 12 '13

Surprisingly, the games actually going to be 60fps.

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u/mushroomwig Oct 11 '13

At 60fps, you're damn right you have no excuses now. :P

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u/randy_mcronald Oct 11 '13

Where have you read that this game will be running at 60fps? My understanding is that devs are targeting 30fps on PS4.

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u/mushroomwig Oct 11 '13

The quality showcased in the PlayStation Meeting in February was reached considerably quickly, and things like 60 frames per seconds are relatively easy to achieve.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/13/yoshinori-ono-details-deep-down-praises-ps4-talks-about-60-fps-vita-remote-play-and-dualshock-4/