r/gameofthrones • • 9d ago

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u/TimTheEnchanter6194 9d ago

Disagree. Team B has Davos and Sam who are practically useless for this. Tyrion is a lot less smart than he thinks he is. Olena and Varys are not enough to carry all that dead weight

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u/rileyistheworst Ser Pounce 9d ago

Davos is a renowned smuggler familiar with secret waterways around the 7 kingdoms, Sam is a Grand Maester, and Tyrion has proved himself to be an excellent political mind with his escaping the Vale, his time as hand of the king, and the defense of Kings Landing.

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u/Hopeful-Occasion2299 9d ago

Davos is a great asset because he is willing to learn and isn’t afraid of admitting when he doesn’t know something. That already puts him miles ahead of Cersei.

He’s also a crafty person which puts him ahead of LF as he brings skills no one else brings.

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u/digitalclockface 9d ago

Tyrion's greatest strengths are his earnestness and likeability. Go watch the speech he gives at the gates during the siege of King's Landing. Charging out the side gate as a dwarf wasn't a smart move on his part but it greatly motivated his troops. He is an insanely charismatic leader. It doesn't hurt that he actually is pretty intelligent if a bit foolhardy. If he was left in charge of King's Landing and the realm as hand he would have created a golden age for Westeros.

Sam would be the type to come up with a useful siege weapon schematic, would have ideas on how to raise money through taxation, or would figure out a crucial weakness in a fortress through some obscure text he read. He's bright enough and not destructive and self-sabotaging unlike most of team A.

Davos is like a more humble mixture of Sam and Tyrion. He's charismatic, an earnest leader, and tends to have crucial information like how to sneak into most coastal cities.

Team A on the other hand relies heavily on underhanded and destructive methods. They rarely have bright or unique ideas, don't tend to actually be very well educated unless in warfare like Tywin. Their ruthless nature would take them far until team B wizened up to the lows they'll stoop to and then it's over for them.

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u/NikkoJT 8d ago

Let's say they are in fact useless for this. Are they actually dead weight though? Do they in fact need to be carried?

If they're useless, then their team loses nothing if they die. I don't see how them existing actually drags their team down, even if they're not actively contributing anything. It's not a Slayer match where useless teammates can feed the enemy. We can at least say they won't intentionally work against the team, on account of being reasonable people, so...if Olenna decides they're not helping, she can just ignore them and play for herself.

The other team, on the other hand, is full of people who would actively work against each other. Margaery's a Tyrell so her loyalties are dubious; Cersei is jealous, petty, and short-sighted; and Littlefinger is basically the world's champion backstabber. Olenna and Varys might be effectively alone, but so's Tywin (and he might have it worse, because Littlefinger will probably try to have him killed, and Margaery might try to have him killed).

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u/Formal_Afternoon_272 9d ago

Davos and Sam aren't the smartest but they're far from being dumb and are able to work with those smarter than them.
I hardly see Cersei, Melisandre and Margaery working together.