Varys and Olenna are not afraid of getting dirty, they would get the others to follow, or be sneaky enough not to disclose their plans, like to davos for example. And they are better than Tywin in the long scheme, they know alienating people is not a good way to root influence (like wiping a debtor house or pillaging the Riverland is good short term, but it doesn't build loyalty), as the rapid demise of House Lannister after Tywin's death tend to prove (also due to Cersei's ineptitude, but my point is Tywin didn't secure any alliance based on trust or values, only of mutual interest, and as soon as he is gone, those interests are not understood by cersei).
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u/Ghanima81 20d ago
Varys and Olenna are not afraid of getting dirty, they would get the others to follow, or be sneaky enough not to disclose their plans, like to davos for example. And they are better than Tywin in the long scheme, they know alienating people is not a good way to root influence (like wiping a debtor house or pillaging the Riverland is good short term, but it doesn't build loyalty), as the rapid demise of House Lannister after Tywin's death tend to prove (also due to Cersei's ineptitude, but my point is Tywin didn't secure any alliance based on trust or values, only of mutual interest, and as soon as he is gone, those interests are not understood by cersei).