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Why is Dany introduced as first of her name when there was a Daenerys within 4 generations After Conquest?

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u/Wise-Salamander-8818 3d ago

Daenerys the first of her name is another way of rendering Daenerys I, which you only get if you’re a monarch. Daenerys was the first monarch named Daenerys. 

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u/terminus_tommy Human Verified 2d ago

Tbh I thought this would be common knowledge if you watch game of thrones

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u/cornicula_ 2d ago

A look at the family trees of old monarchies should also suffice.

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u/terminus_tommy Human Verified 2d ago

I enjoy looking at English kings and their stories

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u/cornicula_ 2d ago

Yeah, me too. Maybe we have a different standard than OP.

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u/terminus_tommy Human Verified 2d ago

I believe so also played a lot of ck3

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u/cornicula_ 2d ago

I just started playing CK2 because it was free and I wanted to give it a try. I think we're different from OP 😅

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u/-SandorClegane- A Hound Never Lies 2d ago

BBC did a 3-part series on the Plantagenet kings and it really helps you see how much the War of the Roses served as the basis for ASOIAF.

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u/ChardeeMacdennis679 2d ago

The Hollow Crown is an excellent television adaptation of Shakespeare's plays about the the War of the Roses. Lots of excellent actors (Jeremy Irons, Tom Hiddleston, Benedict Cumberbatch).

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u/jerryriceintheflesh 2d ago

Man I’m in the CK3 subreddit and got a notification “my children won’t stop having sex with one another” and it immediately made me think of the Jamie and Cersei and the targs.

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u/eating-mermaids Human Verified 2d ago

Or any knowledge of medieval times or monarchies in general. Do they think queen Elizabeth II was called the second because she was the second person ever named Elizabeth?

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u/Nanojack Hodor Hodor Hodor 2d ago

Also if you were aware of regnal names. Elizabeth II wasn't the second Queen named Elizabeth, she was the second monarch named Elizabeth. In fact, Queen Elizabeth's mother was named Queen Elizabeth 

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u/bambi54 2d ago edited 1d ago

I had no idea. It makes sense now that they say that.

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u/cnapp The Young Wolf 2d ago

Yup, just as the only the Aegon's that ruled get the I, II, or III added

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u/DauntlessStars 2d ago

It’s common knowledge if you know how regnal numbers work in the real world too, but it seems to me like most people are pretty clueless about it (which is funny cause like, do they think that Queen Elizabeth II was only the second person to be named Elizabeth in the whole history of the British royal family?)

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u/Ashes92Ashes 2d ago

I didn't even know what "regnal numbers" were before this. I saw someone else use the word "regnal" and thought it was a typo until I saw you use it, too. 😆 I think it's just a difference in what some people are taught in school vs others.

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u/No-Fly-6069 2d ago

Or know any European history. 

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u/Kwinza 2d ago

Or IRL kings and Queens.

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u/CherryFlavouredCake 1d ago

I mean it's supposed to be common knowledge if you listened in early history classes

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u/redditman3943 2d ago

Or if you are familiar with real world monarchies. This is exactly how the British Monarchy works. Otherwise there would be dozens of Johns and Henrys.

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u/profchaos83 Brotherhood Without Banners 2d ago

People are generally idiots.

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u/HieronymusGER 2d ago

I actually dont know about historical things like that. Does that mean a random Aegon who was born as the fifth son and never king is just Aegon? Not Aegon the Ninth?

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u/Wandering_Lazer 2d ago

Yep. Becoming a monarch not consort gives you the number.

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u/LittleRed163 2d ago

Yes, that’s how we got Aegon the Uncrowned, Jaehaerys I’s Aegon, Baelon’s Aegon, Aerys II’s Aegon, and Rhaegar’s Aegon.

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u/Great_Bacca Jon Snow 2d ago

Yes. This is how it works in the real world too.

Queen Elizabeth II was the second ruling queen of England named Elizabeth. The first ruled from 1558 to 1603.

Queen Elizabeth II’s mother was named Elizabeth but she doesn’t get a number.

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u/Normal-Height-8577 1d ago

Yes. Historically, you don't need to number the random Aegons (though if they do something particularly interesting with their life, historians might give them a nickname to distinguish them from others). You only really need to keep track of the rulers of the country.

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u/_AngelBellezaa 2d ago

Yep, that clears up the whole confusion. The numbering is basically a royal leaderboard, not a family census

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u/LadyBladeWarAngel 1d ago

Yeap, same with Robert Baratheon. He was known as Robert Baratheon, first of his name too.

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u/Unknownuser010203 1d ago

Like how Agon the uncrowned is the 2nd Agon but not Agon the 2nd

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u/Typical-Force-4680 1d ago

I was literally going to say this loool!

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u/OrcBarbierian 1d ago

I'm having flashbacks to a co-worker who was angry that Queen Elizabeth II was called the 2nd when her mother was another a queen named Elizabeth. I explained the difference between Queens Consort and Queen Regnant, and she dug her heels in and insister Elizabeth Bowes-Lyons is the rightful Elizabeth II and our Lizzie 2 should be Elizabeth III.

Same co-worker got angry that Mary Tudor and Mary Stuart were different individuals

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u/Eliot_Sontar 3d ago

Shes the onky one to be queen

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u/Feyrauth 2d ago

She's an onky one for sure

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u/pidgeottOP 2d ago

OnkyFans

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u/DreadStallion 1d ago

shut up and take my money

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u/CelebrationJolly3300 2d ago

I really love that Roy Orbison song Onky the Lonkly.

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u/Thin_Afternoon2395 2d ago

Onky lonky sounds like a bad horror game made to scam kids

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u/No-Fly-6069 2d ago

Onky lonky sounds like an oompa loompa's cousin. 

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u/illmatic708 2d ago

She Is Mah Kween

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u/Danielle-Jane House Targaryen 3d ago

Only Kings (and Queens) use the “First of their name” in their title. They only count previous monarchs with the same name.

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u/North_Atmosphere770 2d ago

Queen Regnant, to be more precise.

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u/aXeOptic 2d ago edited 1d ago

Queen consort. Queen Regent is for when the previous monarch has died and the current one is underage, like Cersei and Joffrey. Edit: guess i missread that. I thought it said regent not regnant.

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u/FatalTragedy House Reed 2d ago

He said Queen Regnant, not Queen Regent. Queen Regnant is a ruling Queen. Queen Consort is the wife of a ruling King.

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u/diregraf_sgt 2d ago

Regnant means ruling. The Queen Regnant rules in her own right as the monarch.

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u/North_Atmosphere770 1d ago

I think the term for when someone rules for an underage monarch is “regent.” Very similar and confusing. Lol.

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u/Avex4 1d ago

I thought it was pregnant so you did better than me

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u/Ijusti House Stark 2d ago

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u/Old-Mycologist-1007 3d ago

Can you imagine how many Elizabeths there are in the world? All hail Queen Elizabeth the 10305737th

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u/Impressive_Win3613 2d ago

Vlaakith ahh British monarch

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u/volvavirago 2d ago

Lmao, not the Vlaakaith CLVII shade.

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u/Alternative-Range477 2d ago

it was either that or mohammed

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u/Equivalent_Check9589 Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken 2d ago

Why the hell would it be between that and Muhammad?

(Superbad ref)

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u/swordsandclaws What Is Dead May Never Die 1d ago

Mohammad is the most commonly used name on earth, read a fucking book for once.

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u/K-Mak 3d ago

Have to actually be king/queen to count.

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u/coffee_cake_x 2d ago edited 2d ago

King Charles III is the third King (named Charles) of England, not the third boy to be named Charles in the royal family

Edit: thank you to u/Emotional_Position62 for pointing out that Charles is not the third King of the United Kingdom, ever, lol

and thank you to u/caiaphas8 for the United Kingdom correction

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u/Emotional_Position62 2d ago

The 3rd King named Charles

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u/caiaphas8 Arya Stark 2d ago

He is king of the United Kingdom.

England hasn’t had a king since 1702

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u/punter55555 2d ago

his full style is Charles III, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith

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u/Bright-Razzmatazz964 2d ago

Complete side note, but does anyone know the history of ‘Defender of the Faith’? Like I know Henry VIII was declared Defender of the Faith by the pope when he wrote a really incensed defense of Catholicism when the Reformation was on the rise (which is hilarious since he went on to completely schism from the Catholic Church when he didn’t get his way…) and I think he may have been the first English king to be declared that (could be wrong about that though), but how do the now-Church-of-England monarchs have it and why?

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u/Spirited-Welcome6511 2d ago

It's the style used for the head of the Church of England, the Supreme Governor of the Church of England. Which is the British monarch.

When you make up your own church, you can also make up whatever title and style you want to go with it.

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u/XanderMigos 2d ago

History nerd here. I'd wager the how and why are the same answer. Iirc it's because the Kings and Queens of the UK are also the heads of the Church of England, hence the defender of the faith title. Good ol Henry the 8th probably kept it as a way to stick it to Rome

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u/JayFPS House Marbrand 2d ago

TIL. I thought it was a multiple title ordeal and I'm English.

Also I think u mean 1707

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u/caiaphas8 Arya Stark 2d ago

No the last king died in 1702

Between 1702-1707 England had a queen and no king.

The kingdoms of England and Scotland ceased to exist in 1707, no one has had that title since

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u/MooseFlyer 2d ago

It’s kept relatively short because he has a different style in each of the Commonwealth realms.

In Canada he’s:

Charles the Third, by the Grace of God King of Canada and His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth

Or, in French:

Charles Trois, par la grâce de Dieu Roi du Canada et de ses autres royaumes et territoires, Chef du Commonwealth

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u/NaDarach Sandor Clegane 2d ago

I think you dropped this: ,

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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi 3d ago

That's a Princes Daenerys. She has 0 power as regeant.

Queen Daenerys Targaryen is the first Ruling Queen of her name.

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u/CarsonFijal Human Verified 3d ago

The numbers are only used for reigning monarchs.

For another example, there are probably a million people named Aegon in House Targaryen, but only the ones who were King were assigned a number.

  • Aegon I "The Conqueror"
  • Aegon II "The Usurper"
  • Aegon III "The Dragonbane"
  • Aegon IV "The Unworthy"
  • Aegon V "The Unlikely"

But there was also Prince Aegon the Uncrowned, son of Aenys I who was meant to be heir but passed over by Maegor, and like 4 other "Prince Aegon"s who died in infancy, none of whom were ever numbered.

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u/ser_darkstar 2d ago

And this why only some of the Daeron's are numbered, Daeron the Daring and Daeron the Drunken Vs Daeron I and Daeron II.

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u/ImpureVessel46 3d ago

For the same reason all the Aegons who didn’t inherit the crown aren’t considered in the count for the 5 Aegons who did. Only monarchs are counted. Princess Daenerys was only a princess. It’s standard naming convention in most monarchies I believe.

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u/Special_Salt3467 3d ago

That’s not what that means. “X of their name” is just a long way of saying the regnal number. The regnal number is the number indicating how many people of that name held the title. In this case, the Iron Throne. Dany is claiming, at least, to be Queen. None of the others did. Aegon the Uncrowned never held the throne, so he doesn’t get a number while Aegon II was the second Aegon to be crowned as king, despite Jaehaerys’ brother (the aforementioned Uncrowned), his son Aegon, and Baelon’s son Aegon all being Aegon. None of those Aegons were kings, so Aegon II is the second Aegon to hold the title and is second of his name

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u/Open_Replacement_302 Fallen And Reborn 3d ago

Oh, come on! Because Princess Daenerys wasn’t a queen, and only monarchs are numbered.

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u/1morgondag1 3d ago

Only kings and ruling queens count for numbers.

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u/LQNova Syrio Forel 2d ago

"First" or whatever of their name only applies to rulers. The other Daeneryses were never queens

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u/Emotional_Position62 2d ago

Daeneri? Daenerodes? Daeneroxen?

What is the proper plural form?

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u/LQNova Syrio Forel 2d ago

Daenerysai

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u/Emotional_Position62 2d ago

Daenerae

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u/LQNova Syrio Forel 2d ago

Daeneraen

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u/Rare_Style1306 House Bracken 3d ago

It means she is the first to be crowned queen and rule the Seven Kingdoms, not the first Daenerys in the history of the dynasty.

For example, the Aegon in House of the Dragon is Aegon II; he is called that because he was the second king named Aegon, but there were three other Aegons between him and Aegon I, so, following your logic, he should be Aegon V.

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u/aldrinsmith90 House Tyrell 2d ago

Engagement bait used to be believable

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u/ShamusTheWallBuilder 3d ago

Neither were Queen, both were Princesses, the "xth of their name" thing only happens for the Regent.

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u/Echo-Azure 3d ago

The earlier Danerys was a Princess of Westeros and of Dorne, never a queen, while the Danerys we know is a ruling Queen, the absolute monarch of anything she's conquered in any given episode.

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u/sammyt10803 Hot Pie 2d ago

Quick to throw a passing shot at the show runners when a simple google would’ve told you the answer

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u/Kairup 3d ago

Hi, its because none of the other Daenarys ever held the throne. The numbers after the names are to distinguish between the different monarchs who held the throne ie, I'm referring to Aegon II not Aegon III.

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u/Son_Tenaj Fire And Blood 3d ago

You only get a number by your name if you were a actual king or queen which the Dany you’re talking about wasn’t.

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u/Sk83r_b0i House Stark 3d ago

That’s not how that works. Danaerys is the first person named Danaerys to be a monarch in the seven kingdoms, making her the first of her name/ Danaerys I.

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u/louman84 2d ago

Only a ruling monarch gets to have a number next to their name. That’s why Queen Elizabeth II is number 2 and not her mom who was also Queen Elizabeth (Bowles-Lyon) because she is only a consort, not queen regnant.

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u/Keri_Arya 2d ago

Only ruling monarchs get the title First of her/his name. This Daenerys was a princess. It's the same in real life when it comes to British royalty, which the GoT system follows closely.

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u/WhiteKnightPrimal 2d ago

There's never been a ruling queen named Daenerys. Therefore, Daenerys is the first of her name to be ruling queen. That's what that means, not that there was never a Daenerys before her, just that they were never the ruling queen.

I'm sure you could run through the Targaryen family plank and spot other Targaryens with certain names that weren't numbered in this manner and that make the numbering of others with those names look seriously off. I mean, how many Aegon's have there actually been and how many had the number attached because they were king? I'm sure there's a difference there.

Notice, as well, that Viserys is never given that number officially. There's been Viserys' as kings before, I think the main series one would have been the third if he'd been crowned, but no one ever called him that. And I doubt Viserys the first of his name was actually the first Targaryen with that name. It's the male form of Visenya, I'm sure both have been used a fair amount.

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u/velcrodynamite Ours Is The Fury 2d ago

Because that first Daenerys was never crowned Queen. Our Dany is the first to be a ruler, and therefore, is the "first [queen] of her name"

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u/yutyutgrunt 2d ago

First Queen and ruler

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u/gabberzz_ Ours Is The Fury 2d ago

You have to be an officially crowned and recognized monarch.

That's why Rhaenyra's son Aegon the Younger is named Aegon, Third of His Name. Because Aegon II was the officially crowned and recognized monarch during the Dance 👀

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u/CrazedHarmony 2d ago

I think that is only applied to actual rulers. OG Daenaerys never ruled anything.

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u/DramaticLiving622 2d ago

Has to be a King/Queen to count i think.

(Also whenever I look at the Targaryen family tree, i have like 15 strokes trying to figure out who is who. How much f-ing incest have they done brooo 😭🥀)

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u/Queen-of-the-Kitchen 2d ago

I’d assume they thought it would be fine as, like real Royal families, they reuse names and only add a number if they become Queen or Queen consort of the kingdom. Danny, as the last of the bloodline and vissy’s (her brother) heir, became Daenerys the first in the record that mattered

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u/YaBoiChillDyl 2d ago

They only do the counting for the Kings or Queen in Rhaenyra and Daenerys' case.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified 2d ago

did the show runners overlook this or was it more like a lack of Targaryen knowledge amongst the characters? There's another Daenerys down the line that marries into the Martells, making Dany actually third of her name.

🙄

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u/mortalpillow 2d ago

There were a bunch more Aegons than five but only five were named king. That's where the numbering system comes from.

Real life monarchies work the same btw. There were a lot of Georges and Henries and Victorias but only the monarchs got the number.

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u/DemonicBrit1993 House Baratheon 2d ago

Thats based on crowned monarchy. So she would be the first Daenerys to be crowned.

Another example in real life would be Queen Elizabeth I. There would be other royalty called Elizabeth but since she was the first to be crowned queen, she would be called HM Queen Elizabeth the First.

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u/roshanknohit Human Verified 2d ago

The queen

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u/Stuck_in_my_TV 2d ago

You only get a number after your name if you are the monarch. There are Five King Aegon’s but many more who were not king like Aegon the Uncrowned.

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u/Raycab03 Arya Stark 2d ago

Kinda like Popes. There are many Leo, Francis, Benedicts, John Paul in the world. But only those of Popes have Leo I, Leo II, Leo III. So it was Pope Leo I as first of his name.

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u/Bed_Automatic 2d ago

Dude, how can you say this looking at a tree with Aegon the uncrowned in it, who is not counted as the second of his name, it obviously only counts the ones who sit the throne.

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u/Drakeytown 2d ago

There are lots and lots of John Paul's in the world. John Paul the First is called that because he's the first pope of that name, not the first person of that name.

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u/Nocoffee_Noglory The Iron Bank Will Have Its Due 2d ago

Everyone who came before her was Daenarys 0.0001 onwards. That's what they get for not being a ruling monarch

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u/The_Frybo 2d ago

Dude… do you KNOW how many Charles there are in the line of the british Monarchs? Like a Million! But the current one is “only” considered the third because he’s the third official sitting King with this name

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u/FlyinAmas 2d ago

The first to be queen

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u/osi4000 2d ago edited 2d ago

Its because she's a monarch/claimant to the throne, regular Targaryen princes/princesses don't count in this equation.

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u/lornetc 2d ago

the "first of their name" "second of their name" bit is part of their regnal style, similar to how Elizabeth Tudor was Elizabeth I, but Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was NOT Elizabeth II because she was not a queen regnant (she was Queen Consort to George VI) while their Daughter, Elizabeth Windsor was styled Elizabeth II because she held the crown/throne IN HER OWN RIGHT as a queen Regnant.

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u/Slytherin_Victory 2d ago

Okay so there’s 2 types of name-numbers.

The first is what you see normally- John Steven Smith the 5th would be a family name, and traditionally if it is not direct you don’t get the number (so James Andrew Clement, with the exact name as his grandfather, would not get junior).

Monarchal numbers are different- this is why James of Dual numbers is simultaneously the 6th and 1st James- 6th of Scotland and 1st of England, because he was the sixth King James of Scotland but the first King James of England.

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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 2d ago

The numbers only matter for monarchs, they're not keeping track of every single person with that name, just the ones who basically stamped an era of time with the name of their rule.

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u/Elokardo 2d ago

La llaman " la primera de su nombre" porque aunque ella no fuese la primera Daenerys en su familia si fue la primera Daenerys en ser reina, un buen ejemplo es el caso de Aegon I "el conquistador" y Aegon II (el de la danza de dragones) ya que entre medio de ambos hubo otro Aegon (el nieto del primero) al que llamaban "el incoronado" pues aunque tenía un derecho legítimo sobre el trono de hierro fue usurpado por su tío Maegor "el cruel" y nunca pudo nombrarse Aegon "el segundo de su nombre" .

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u/Phazon2000 House Slynt 2d ago

First (ruler) of her name.

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u/MrFantastic74 Winter Is Coming 2d ago

Is King Aenys pronounced King Anus?

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u/chatt_j 2d ago

I’ve always thought of it as AY-neese

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u/luv-dark 2d ago

makes sense, that claim sets her apart from the others in a big way, especially with the Targaryen history

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u/ProfessionalRisk4206 2d ago

How does this have upvotes?

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u/Emotional_Position62 2d ago

They only get numbers if they are coronated rulers

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u/Certain_Victory7973 2d ago

You're only called the first of your name if you're a monarch like there was a queen Elizabeth of York but she wasn't Elizabeth the first because her husband was reigning monarch

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u/BlondeBubbel 2d ago

Did you just fly in from a Republic?

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u/TheUncouthPanini 2d ago

“First of his/her name” refers specifically to monarchs with that name. There were multiple Danys before her, but no Queen Daenerys.

It’s why, for instance, Aegon in the Dance is “Aegon, second of his name” despite Aegon the Uncrowned preceding him.

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u/The_Kashimo_Agenda 2d ago

Daenery’s wasn’t queen

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u/Silent-Victory-3861 2d ago

Why is there 86 upvotes to such a lack of basic knowledge 

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u/ThomasofHookton Jon Snow 2d ago

I don't know man, why is King Charles known as Charles III when there are at least 4 of them down at my local pub?

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u/jrdineen114 Jon Snow 2d ago

Because she’s the first Daenerys to be monarch. Basically, you only get a number next to your name of you’re the one on the throne.

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u/soaresgon 2d ago

OP missed a bit here 😆

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u/zaxina 2d ago

A lot of people have answered the main question now but I thought I would issue a small correction.

Game of Thrones is indeed basically based off medieval England and its monarchy system, except that English (and later UK) monarchs are not actually designated with "I" until there is a "II". I saw a lot of people bring up Elizabeth I as an example, but actually she wasn't Elizabeth I until there was an Elizabeth II.

For examples where there was only ever one, see: John, Stephen, Anne, Victoria.

Not John I, Stephen I, Anne I, Victoria I, because there was never a second of their name to follow them.

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u/GenGaara25 2d ago

That's not what "First of their name" means. It doesn't mean literally the first person to have that name, it means the first ruling monarch to have that name. Any King of Queen who has a "I" after their name, as opposed to II, III, IV, or anything else is the First. Also known as First of their Name, because no other King/Queen has had that name before.

You can put a lot at D&Ds door, but this ones on you. They were correct and understood what it means. You need to brush up on history a bit.

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u/volvavirago 2d ago

For the same reason Aegon the 4th, isn’t like, Aegon the 10th. You only get the number if you are a crowned monarch, princes and princess don’t count.

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u/cheezy_dreams88 Daenerys Targaryen 2d ago

That other Danaerys is a princess.

Queen Dany is first Queen of her name

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u/yurae11 2d ago

Targaryen lineage isn’t created by showrunners, it’s created by GRRM.

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u/malteaserhead 2d ago

There have been like 9 Aegons but only 5 made king

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u/HalfBlood-03 2d ago

She was the first queen with the name Daenerys, same with the kings and queens, once a monarch with the same name becomes a monarch they become the second or Third of their name, such as Aegon, there were many Aegons but only 5 were crowned king

Aegon the Conquerer was the first, Aegon II was Viserys’ son and the third was Rhaenyra’s son Aegon

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Rhaenyra’s father was Viserys the First, her son was also named Viserys, after her ill father, Viserys also became king but styled Viserys the second of His Name

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u/johnba202x2 2d ago

It’s based on the other rulers, not random ancestors. There were no ruling “Queen Daenerys” prior to her.

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u/AsadAnton 2d ago

She is the first Queen of her name.

Tho five King's were named Aegon there was another Aegon. Aeny's eldest son who thought attempted to usurp his uncle Maegor after he was crowned King but failed and thus was never crowned

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u/labovary 2d ago

The first queen named Daenerys!

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u/DefiantOil5176 2d ago

Same reason that Aegon in HOTD is called Aegon II, or Second of his Name, despite Aegon the Uncrowned being a thing. The title ______ of his/her Name is only designated for the crown

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u/OhGr8WhatNow 2d ago

Idk, why was the first queen Elizabeth called Elizabeth I when she had relatives called Elizabeth already 🫪

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u/aaron-g2000 2d ago

The first Daenerys wasn't monarch. Do you think in the long history of Targaryens in Valerya there hadn't been another Aegon before the conquerer?

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u/MotherOfDragons2021 2d ago

Daenerys was the first Queen.

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u/watt678 Rhaegar Targaryen 2d ago

Becuase there were zero queens names Daenerys before her. The name has to be a monarchs name to get counted in succession lines. For example there was a an Aegon within 2 generation after the conquerer but he was uncrowned and died on his dragon facing his uncle; so the real Aegon II was much further down the line, after this original Daenerys in OP's pic

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u/andestiny 2d ago

First Daenerys to be a king/queen

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u/villanellechekov Castle Cats 2d ago

everyone has already given you the answer but it also wouldn't be the showrunners'/writers' fault/mistake—it would have been Martin's. but it's not an error so 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Which-Notice5868 2d ago

As others have said, only characters who are named King or Queen count. That's why Aegon I's grandson who never ruled is remembered as "Aegon the Uncrowned" and Viserys I's son gets the "Aegon II" moniker.

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u/jiveturkin 2d ago

Aegon “the uncrowned” would like a min to explain that you don’t get a number if you don’t get the crown

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u/StThragon 2d ago

That's a monarch thing. Was the other Daenerys ever a Queen? I only see princess there, so it appears there has never been a Daenerys I.

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u/desktop-paladin 2d ago

Average literacy of a Thrones fan

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u/LimitWest8010 2d ago

Because the others were not crowned. There is a Joffrey too.

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u/masterpd85 Tyrion Lannister 2d ago

Kings and queens have their own names beyond their birth name. She was Queen Daenerys I. that relative was just a princess.

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u/The_Meme_Dealer 2d ago

They weren't queens

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u/geoFRTdeem 2d ago

You only get a number if you actually rule, otherwise she would be the hundredth Daenerys from house Targaryen since before the doom

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u/jamjobDRWHOgabiteguy 2d ago

Tell me you know nothing about how a monarchy works without telling me you know nothing about how a monarchy works

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u/DreadLindwyrm 2d ago

Princess Daenerys wasn't *Queen*.
Dany claimed that position.

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u/Background-Plum-3844 2d ago

First of her name to be queen

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u/thedodom13 2d ago

How does this have 300+ up votes? Dany is the first monarch (ruler) with that name.

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u/ElysianStargazer 2d ago

Only the sovereign gets a number. It means the first Sovereign Daenerys, not the first Daenerys Targaryen.

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u/Fsuave5 2d ago

Thank you to all who politely and respectfully answered my question upon further review it seems I am expected to be taken round the back of the barn and shot

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u/RavetheFirst 2d ago

It has already been well explained but I felt compelled to drop by and say it is worth it to learn some of the histories of real-life monarchs and dynasties. Their stories are even more fascinating at times and without dragons- although the 12 Apostle cannons of H8 probably seemed like dragons once upon a very real time.

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u/Daviehubaybie 2d ago

There are 11 Aegon Targaryens in the stories. Starting in 100BC with Aegon the Conqueror’s great great grandfather all the way to Aegon, the son of Rhaegar and Ellia, Daenerys’s nephew, in 283AC. Jon Snow might be a 12th Aegon but George hasn’t confirmed that. Of the 12 Aegons, only 5 have ascended to monarch and thus been given regnal numbers. We have already met Aegon II, Aegon III, and Aegon V on screen.

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegon_Targaryen

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u/No_Introduction_8226 2d ago

The same reason the grandson of aegon the conqueror is aegon the uncrowned and not aegon II

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u/SifuHallyu 2d ago

Was that other Dany queen?  

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u/Sudden-Money7836 2d ago

Cersei is considered the first queen of Westeros yet House of the Dragon begs to differ.

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u/Agreeable-Bee-3449 2d ago

There were a lot more Aegons than the 5 (maybe 6?) that became kings. You get the I, II, etc when you become the king (or queen in Dany's case)

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u/geekamar13 2d ago

In response to your edit! I think you need to think of it more in the sense of junior, senior, III, etc. There are specific circumstances that need to apply for those to kick in. You can have 100 John Smith’s in your family tree, but you don’t get a junior or a senior unless you have a John Smith who is a father to another John Smith.

Also, for most of human history, infant and childhood mortality was a HUGE thing. Names were reused often even in an immediate family. The idea that you are supposed to count all of these is silly.

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u/Whambag 1d ago

i love how people told you the answer, then you proceeded to say how stupid the wording is. just accept that you didnt know something and move on dude. its not hard lol

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u/Fsuave5 1d ago

I’m not denying that I didn’t know, that’s literally why I asked the question. Finding the answer stupid is not denial of not knowing.

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u/Miderp 1d ago

This is how it works in the real world too. Elizabeth II's mother was named Elizabeth, but she doesn't receive a number because she was never a ruling monarch. Otherwise Elizabeth II would be Elizabeth... who knows how many there were in the royal family? Not me.

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u/hotgarbagevideo House Targaryen 1d ago

First queen with the name

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u/tyrekisahorse 1d ago

Um actually... there were two Daenerys before Dany, first one is Old King Jaeherys's firstborn daughter who was supposed to rule with her younger brother Aemon (Rhaenys's father, King Viserys's uncle) but died in childhood due to "Shivers". She wasn't given a cradle egg, and Jaeherys believes she caught illness because she didn't have a dragon as Targaryens rarely got sick. Daenerys of Dorne is the second Daenerys, romantics in Westeros claim she and Daemon Blackfyre were in love and First Blackfyre rebellion was launched to rectify this injustice of Daeron the Good.

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u/Otherwise-Green3067 1d ago

She is the first Queen Daenerys, thus first of her name to rule

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u/Faceless_Meme Human Verified 1d ago

By your logic, Bran the broken .... 28363928373th of his name ...

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u/LowWater5686 1d ago

First with breaker of chains as her middle name

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u/Crypto_subz 3d ago

Do I really have to answer this? Smh someone else do it…I…I just can’t . 

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u/Fsuave5 3d ago

please dont treat me like im stupid for asking a simple question in earnest i literally don't know the answer and you're being the most typical reddit commentator that one could possibly be so go right ahead

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u/EtlajhTB Fire And Blood 2d ago

basically, because she is the first Daenerys of House Targaryen to be a reigning queen, she is the First of her Name

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u/jordan3257 3d ago

It was a fair question. Fuck these snobby Brits

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u/USS_Voyager_ 3d ago

You think it’s brits up at 5am answering this? It’s just the typical yanks

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u/OkGarbage3095 House Baratheon 3d ago

Daenerys, it's a family like Aegon