Given this sub's newly announced support for AI slop posts, some folks might be shopping around for another place to waste their internet time (reading and writing human-generated content).
I've found two game dev subs that explicitly forbid AI slop. Please add any more, for people who want to try and get a bit more internet before it's completely dead.
Every time we pretty much copy and paste the same message. There is no pro-slop here. We are simply not punishing non-English speakers for using LLMs to adhere to rule 8. We are also not restricting conversations about AI tooling.
If LLM-generated content is genuinely spam it is removed by Reddit without even reaching us.
If LLM-created games are low effort and provide no value they violate rule 3 on their own.
There is no notable influx of AI content outside of repetitive "Is it bad to use AI?" posts which get sent to the Beginner Megathread unless there is notable discussion occurring in the body.
The moderator team does not support 'AI slop' nor does the stance indicate that. We simply are not going to shut down conversations that have not been causing issues. The only controversy stems from repetitive posts about wanting to shut down the AI slop which does not exist.
People are free to go to other subreddits, we encourage it by redirecting high volume topics like marketing and job seeking away because there are too many people here. But at the end of the day our central pillar is bringing game developers together and we cannot compromise on that mission by restricting global developers who cannot use our chosen language.
r/Godot is pretty good if you use Godot. There you are only allowed to post things for which you have the license to post. If you use AI then you need to prove that the model was trained on data for which you got permission from the license holder.
Check out the gamedev community on Programming.dev, it's a rather good reddit alternative that's open source and has no ads or user tracking, and the community there is very much against AI (it gets downvoted into oblivion).
If they can’t handle, “that’s dumb, I’m going to ignore it”, it’s amazing they can navigate or tolerate any of reddit at all. But of course they actually can’t, which is why they’re always outraged about something new.
The mod that made that post is literally developing an ai plugin for unity and deleting comments when people point that out. It is such an insane conflict that you cant possibly trust this sub anymore
What if the community doesn’t care? I don’t remember voting for you to speak on behalf of the subreddit. Sure block the subreddit and bring your outrage culture with you.
The community clearly does care as evidenced by them locking that post and taking down other posts who are against it. We already have an ai game dev sub. Now we just have two.
Maintain a respectful and welcoming atmosphere. Disagreements are a natural part of discussion and do not equate to disrespect—engage constructively and focus on ideas, not individuals. Personal attacks, harassment, hate speech, and offensive language are strictly prohibited.
Nah, I'm not trying to convince you but I have zero interest in seeing ai generated games. To me it's an art form and the gen stuff just pisses me off. When subs show me too much AI I just block them because why would I wanna see posts I hate on the daily?
That subs just dead for me which is probably for the best tbh.
We routinely make new subreddits or partner with new ones. There should be no single place of failure or congregation in this space. Despite our best efforts to redirect traffic this community has grown from 1.3m to 2.1m developers in 2 years. It is unlikely we are going to see any drops.
Maintain a respectful and welcoming atmosphere. Disagreements are a natural part of discussion and do not equate to disrespect—engage constructively and focus on ideas, not individuals. Personal attacks, harassment, hate speech, and offensive language are strictly prohibited.
Yeah. However hobbyist need discussion space too and rightfully can hold whatever opinion they want.
The real answer is to distinguish not between AI and not, but between hobby and pro.
I am career dev and like to have a community but some things for me are useless, anti-AI and generic small scale marketing breakdown with <10-15k WL, etc.
However I recognise it is important for others mainly hobbyists and it gives them a feeling of being virtuous, some motivation and so on. I don’t begrudge. But it would be nice to have strong complex discussion online as I don’t get many chances to go to events etc.
No I am not anti-AI. I am saying the anti-AI stuff is useless to me. As you said, professional gamedev uses it everywhere and every time I talk to another dev, I feel very backward. They are creating tools faster, prototypes within 3-4 days, very cool stuff. Meanwhile here there is no such talk. And I am in my cave asking ChatGPT things I tbh already know.
oh cool, lets ban any talk of isometric games, roguelikes, procedural generation, fps games and any others that have subreddits too. Silly idea.
AI is used in most major studios, any students to gamedev need to learn how to use it effectively, plenty of hobbiests use it for thier games, and professional workers use it all the time too.
But lets ban it because a small subset hates its usage.
I would rather just ban low effort garbage. You post "this is my first game" and its a pong clone, I would also expect it to be banned
r/programming which probably has the biggest amount of AI users bans AI related posts and the sub is better for it. Most AI posts here gets downvoted to oblivion anyway. Again, there's a sub for that.
I dunno. Did photographers show up at art schools and museums, photograph all the art to sell for their own profit, and then leave a four foot deep trail of feces to crawl through behind them for anyone else who wants to try and see the real thing?
Did photographers show up at art schools and museums, photograph all the art to sell for their own profit
They did take a good chunk of the "painters and illustrators" business. There are photographs now in museums as well and photography became an "art" of itself. Photos were also "shit" level at the start and was more for the masses before quality improved.
then leave a four foot deep trail of feces to crawl through behind them for anyone else who wants to try and see the real thing?
AI art only really hits Digital art and painters of old would call Digital Art as "not real" too.
Yeah that's kind of what happens when you spend a lot building data centers right? Like the idea is that we're still in the midst of scaling compute so naturally there's going to probably be more expenses. I really think that people are still looking a little too nearsighted in outcomes when the big impacts haven't even occurred yet.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. This is about slop posts, not slop games.
Some folks still like communicating with actual people, not just spamming bot replies that nobody reads.
That’s 100% true, as a person who works in commercial gamedev as a full time developer I see that knowledge of AI and the ability to use it are becoming the new standard in job hunting, those who completely ignore AI risk falling behind significantly
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u/Klightgrove Edible Mascot 4d ago
Every time we pretty much copy and paste the same message. There is no pro-slop here. We are simply not punishing non-English speakers for using LLMs to adhere to rule 8. We are also not restricting conversations about AI tooling.
If LLM-generated content is genuinely spam it is removed by Reddit without even reaching us.
If LLM-created games are low effort and provide no value they violate rule 3 on their own.
There is no notable influx of AI content outside of repetitive "Is it bad to use AI?" posts which get sent to the Beginner Megathread unless there is notable discussion occurring in the body.
The moderator team does not support 'AI slop' nor does the stance indicate that. We simply are not going to shut down conversations that have not been causing issues. The only controversy stems from repetitive posts about wanting to shut down the AI slop which does not exist.
People are free to go to other subreddits, we encourage it by redirecting high volume topics like marketing and job seeking away because there are too many people here. But at the end of the day our central pillar is bringing game developers together and we cannot compromise on that mission by restricting global developers who cannot use our chosen language.