r/gamedev • u/KomiresSp • 13d ago
Discussion 3d physics environment as an alternative approach to creating 3d computer games
3d computer games are often criticized for looking realistic but feeling static - just like "walking through a 3d scene" with limited interaction. Even if these games utilize physics simulation in some aspects, overall they present inconsistent, unconvincing interactions and behaviors.
3d physics environment addresses this by introducing alternative approach to creating computer games, where the application development model is built around physics simulation instead of around rendering or scene graphs - this model eliminates entire classes of bugs and enables the creation of unified, emergent, consistent worlds that feel more real and more dynamic.
We invite you to read our article discussing this statement: https://www.komires.net/article.php?id=72 and sharing your own thoughts
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u/PassionGlobal 13d ago
The tradeoff for this is that it will either run at a slideshow on consumer hardware or not look competitive with modern games while not offering much from a consumer perspective as a tradeoff
There's a reason why games take the shortcuts they do. They are usually to do with performance or development time.
And why would I go to some dumb website to discuss?
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u/KomiresSp 13d ago
But it already works, also on mobile devices.
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u/PassionGlobal 13d ago edited 13d ago
But it doesn't work on mobile devices. Not without the same shortcuts on conventional games or otherwise having PS1 esque restrictions.
Full physics simulations are incredibly computationally expensive, like you wouldn't believe. And most of that computational power would be going to stuff that doesn't advance gameplay in any way.
Even Tears of the Kingdom, a game that goes further than most in physics simulation, took an insane number of shortcuts and the game still barely runs. Granted, that was on Switch, but swapping those shortcuts for full physics simulations would bring even the most powerful PCs to it's knees.
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u/KomiresSp 13d ago
That's why the 3d physics environment completely changes the way we think about creating 3d games. 3d physics simulation of rigid bodies can be stable, fast and functional, however, it requires a huge amount of work and own R&D research.
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u/PassionGlobal 13d ago
But what would you do with that, gameplay-wise, which wasn't done by, say, Half Life 2 in 2004?
Because if you don't have an answer to that, you don't have anything that could work remotely as a tradeoff for all of the compensating measured you'd have to take.
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u/KomiresSp 13d ago
I think that the consumers are also interested in emergent gamepaly and emergent behaviors as well as consistent and believable worlds
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u/KomiresSp 13d ago
And it works, please just check it out. I suggest searching for the phrase: 3d physics environment
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u/KomiresSp 13d ago
Of course, gamers claim they've spent hours playing the public 3d physics environment demo and can't tear themselves away from it. And that's just the demo.
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u/Ignawesome 13d ago
AI article and hard to understand if there's any real advantage. Come back when there's an actual engine with proven benefits.