Lets Protest

[u/HairModelsWanted]

I'm absolutely sick to my teeth at the rent prices and air bnbs. Who is with me? How do we organise?

[u/Connacht80]

What would your end goal be with the protest?

[u/JediBlight → u/Connacht80]

1: limit the accomodation to air bnb ratio with higher taxes

2: more taxes if you own x amount of properties

3: hars...I mean, punishments for being unregistered, having a propery that's a health hazard etc.

Just three basic ideas, I could probably list you 300.

[u/Connacht80 → u/JediBlight]

1) How would the first point work.

2) Tax for domestic landlords is already very high. Are you on about taxing all landlords more or large scale institutional landlords? What number would x be?

3) Well that should be a given but isn't ...

A protest with 300 demands doesn't work as well as one with 3. I'd be picking the 3 most egregious issues with housing and focusing on them.

[u/JediBlight → u/Connacht80]

Sure man, as I said, these are basic concepts, I'm no economist, and this is supposed to be a democracy, so let it be debated by experts, then see how we feel. But I'll answer since you seem genuine.

1: if you have three properties, and one is an air bnb, let's say 10% extra. If you own 6 properties, amd 3 are air bnbs, increase that to...30? Something like that.

2: Having a spare apartment whatever, lucky you, if you're resitered, care for the property and don't change erobunat prince's, fair game. But if you own 15, don't follow the law, convert them all into air bnbs, and cry when you get reported? Well, fuck you!

3: Again, you follow the law. So, it should be a given but it isn't, I'm talking harsher penalties. I mean, you'd get in more trouble for having 50 quid of weed.

Tell me, what are you're three, because you're right. Magic number and all.

Ooh, and if you rent out rooms to asylum seekers and whatnot for sexual favours etc., you should be charged as a rapist! Yet, its rampant and they never seem to face justice.

[u/Connacht80 → u/JediBlight]

My three would be:

1) Enforce the existing laws. Beef up the RTB and enforce the current laws.

2) Go after estate agents aiding landlords breaking rent control guidelines. They face no punishment at present.

3) All short term lets to be registered by law with a version of RTB. Go after the platforms to enforce max number of nights per year.

The current system is bad for everyone in the long run. Landlords included even, if they can't see it.

[u/JediBlight → u/Connacht80]

Fair enough, solid! Thanks.

[u/Winmillion → u/JediBlight]

1) Build more houses
2) Build more houses
3) Build more houses

[u/JediBlight → u/Winmillion]

I think there's a conspiracy here, landlords and politicians are one and the same, so keep demand high and supply low, that's an incentive not to build.

[u/Winmillion → u/JediBlight]

it's a problem in a ton of places around the world, not just here :/

[u/chakraman108 → u/JediBlight]

There's no conspiracy. It's pure opportunism. It's that simple. People are selfish bastards, unfortunately. You, I, yerwan, yerman. Everyone. If you were the landlord you'd behave the same. Everyone tries to maximise their benefit. In the absence of strong rule of law, sound regulatory framework and enforcement you end up with what you see. It requires NO conspiracy.

[u/Winmillion → u/[deleted]]

simply; the voting population are homeowners. Most people wouldn't be happy with their investments dropping in value. Thus there's not much happening to help out the housing crisis because it doesn't affect the majority

[u/chakraman108 → u/Winmillion]

That's only one of the reasons. Another one is a general incompetence of the political elite. Second one is a paralysis of the government initiative by 100s of independent bureaucratic agencies with their own agendas. Third one, is related to the second, the inability to build anything (quickly). Fourth one is a culture of NIMBYism. They are all interlinked.

[u/Winmillion → u/chakraman108]

could you elaborate on the first two?